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Don't think the picture is a Gale.  Here is an ad from 1905 for the Gale - it's a different car.  Could the photo be an 05 Ford C?

Terry

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17 hours ago, Terry Bond said:

Don't think the picture is a Gale.  Here is an ad from 1905 for the Gale - it's a different car.  Could the photo be an 05 Ford C?

Terry

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The Gale is listed in the Standard Catalog as being produced '05-'07.  Georgiano says '04-'10.  in any event there is sufficient time spread for minor changes to have occurred.  I believe it probably is a Gale.

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23 hours ago, Tinindian said:

The question is have any Gale's survived?

Looking at the fenders and the passenger side latch for the top opening in the hood they are quite similar, all be it the hood sides and rad are different but is their a Gale still blowing exhaust smoke out there?  

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Fenders are typical of many cars of that era and as Bob mentioned, Ford crank holes in the side were positioned differently than for Cadillac.  Very little outward difference between Ford and Cad in the first couple of seasons except for that.  It's the combination of hood/rad that makes me question the identity of the old car in the original photo supplied.   Perhaps there is some original Gale literature out there that will show one and confirm a positive Id on the photo.  Wonder if the AACA Library has something in their files?

Terry

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On 1/26/2020 at 11:27 AM, 1937hd45 said:

I think the crank hole location will determine if the OP photo is Cadillac or Ford. Bob 

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Bob, I'm skeptical that it's either Ford or Cadillac. The crank holes of both of them don't seem to be in the same place as what I see on the Gale.  The Cadillac's front fenders slope inward while the Gale's are horizontal viewed from the front.

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1 hour ago, Dave Henderson said:

Bob, I'm skeptical that it's either Ford or Cadillac. The crank holes of both of them don't seem to be in the same place as what I see on the Gale.  The Cadillac's front fenders slope inward while the Gale's are horizontal viewed from the front.

Who knows, maybe it is a Gale photo after all. Just noticed the wheel lugs match the Ford illustration. Bob 

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On 1/27/2020 at 10:37 AM, Terry Bond said:

Fenders are typical of many cars of that era and as Bob mentioned, Ford crank holes in the side were positioned differently than for Cadillac.  Very little outward difference between Ford and Cad in the first couple of seasons except for that.  It's the combination of hood/rad that makes me question the identity of the old car in the original photo supplied.   Perhaps there is some original Gale literature out there that will show one and confirm a positive Id on the photo.  Wonder if the AACA Library has something in their files?

Terry

This fuzzy picture is of a 1907 Gale from the Standard Catalog of American Cars.  It shows the car having louvers on the hood side, further indicating that the mystery car may be a Gale.

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  There was an old photograph posted containing a  "Mystery car" on the MTFCA board a  while ago- after some spirited back and forth the general consensus was that it was a Gale. That discussion turned up at least one Gale (and possibly two more) still in existence, with pictures!

 

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/822076/869692.html?1528068680

 

 

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There is a undetermined (1905?)year Gale in a small town in Eastern Washington. A couple of years ago my nephew rebuilt the motor and got it running for relatives of the original owner. It still needs a radiator and lots of small details to make it drivable. Quite an interesting car that no ne even knew it existed. Once again the barns and old buildings are still hiding interesting old cars.

 

just sayin'

 

brasscarguy

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Yes, the OP supplied photo is starting to look more like a "Gale" and the Model T Forum discussion is most enlightening.  Still, I've enlarged that photo to 800% in MS Word and that logo on the side looks more like Oldsmobile the larger it gets.  Unfortunately, it gets pretty blurry in the process. 
That said, it was not uncommon to have car owners actually put their own monograms on cars.  Some of my early catalogs show decals that could be printed and purchased just for that purpose.  So, what looks like the Oldsmobile, could actually be either a Gale logo, or the owner's personal monogram.

I'll see if somewhere I can uncover a Gale logo for comparison.

Terry

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Terry, you asked if I knew about a Gale logo or emblem. I have never seen a Gale emblem and I doubt there was one, apart from the possibility of a decal on the side. I also can't help with a logo, maybe someone has a brochure that shows one. I attach a photo of a brass script for a Gale. Mike

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