25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi, just purchased a whole of a project. But the initial car seems to be a long wheelbase 1924 Buick tourer model unknown. It has luggage rack on rear and battery box on the running board. 6 cylinder. I also got a 40+ year collection of Buick parts with it , so I only want to begin restoring the car to original condition and with the parts it came out with. Cannot find a number on the body or chassis so need some help to get the car identified so I can begin the research and then the restoration. From Australia with kind regards for your replys in advance, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybuick Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) hi it looks like a master going by the second picture as it has the extra round bar between the chassis rails at the very front and the motor on the trailer is a master it could be a 1925 as it looks like its got the alloy moulding between the bonnet and body which 25 had what size wheels are they if they are 22 inch id say its a 25 master Edited May 30, 2017 by tonybuick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Was another two trailer trips of parts. After these ones. The motor is still in the car although half pulled down. The motor on the trailer is spare and has a square intake. The wheels rings are 25inches. Has two peice windscreen and sunvisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Has 33 inch x 5 inch tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) The square inlet manifold is 1924. It looks to be the sport tourer on the 128" wheelbase chassis. Where are you located. Edited May 30, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, ROD W said: The square inlet manifold is 1924. It looks to be the sport tourer on the 128" wheelbase chassis. Where are you located. Sunshine Coast south east queensland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Greetings from 1 newbie to another. My car (also a 128 inch wheelbase) has the chassis id plate on the front LEFT chassis rail (passenger side) just behind the front wheel. Another post identifies this plate being on the front right of a 1926 -25 model. Unfortunately i am missing the body plate that shoud be, i belive, be fitted to the drivers seat base. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Hi David , I will do a good search of plates again tommorow. I am missing seats and roof but the timber frames are in the car I want to get my parts correct then start the build process. Is there any idea of what the top model was for 1924? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Well the 1924 reference book list 10 models for the year. However there are fellas out there with far more knowledge that myself, and im sure that in time they will add to this thread. According to the book, i read it as the 6-55 (Sport Touring) is the "top model" for the year. By the way, your car is looking great. Appears to be in alot better condition than mine. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 24 Buick: Congratulations on your new project. Here is what the Model 55 Sport touring looks like restored. Of course yours is a 55X as it is right hand drive. Wire wheels you have are a plus! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The wire wheels are extremely rare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I see what looks like your data plate on the firewall in this photo. Can you still read it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Wow that car is nice!! Yes I have the plate but it doesn't have the model. I will get more photos. I have a few more sets of the wheels but rusty conditions. Great to be here with people that are so knowledgeable towards their Buick. Well at least I can start determining what parts to go back on the car with an id for it now. Thank you I will start a build thread in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 24 Buick I looked at an unrestored Sport Tourer at Nambour a few years back, with wire wheels. Is this the same car. The 128" wheelbase is the top of the line Buick. There is also a 120" wheelbase six cylinder and a 109" wheelbase 4 cylinder. 1924 is the last year of the 4 cylinder. 1924 was also the first year of four wheel brakes. I,m in Bundaberg and get down to Brisbane every so often so will look foreword to catch up with you. I have a 1925 sport tourer. Rod Edited May 30, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 Deceased estate he had a lot of Buick and Cadillac v8 tourer. So possibly yes same car. As I live 10mins from Nambour. Unfortunately the shed is full to brim with parts for over 10buicks and not to mention parts he accumulated and cars he had in the past. So trying to id parts to build the car before it's all gone forever. Yes I am interested to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Are there any other 24 or 25 Buick parts there, Have they all been sold, He had a beautiful, I think 22 Cadillac. I would be interested in looking to see whats there. Edited May 30, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 this 24 sport tourer is in Melbourne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, 24 Buick said: Deceased estate he had a lot of Buick and Cadillac v8 tourer. So possibly yes same car. As I live 10mins from Nambour. Unfortunately the shed is full to brim with parts for over 10buicks and not to mention parts he accumulated and cars he had in the past. So trying to id parts to build the car before it's all gone forever. Yes I am interested to catch up. any idea of what sort of cad parts he had? there are a few I could use but it's a long way to Queensland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 The model 24-55 had the large sun visor I believe. The model 24-45 did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Yes so far this is the only car sold. Still has a similar condition 27 standard but is complete with all parts plus spares. I have purchased as a deal all associated 24 25 parts with the car. And basically they are putting all the parts they find with each car as a package due to the wishes of the will. Although we are talking two sheds and over ten cars. Hard to know what goes with what as there is at least three v8 cad blocks and a full spare motor. So rod I will have spare parts for you when I work out what I don't need Edited May 30, 2017 by 24 Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, 24 Buick said: Yes so far this is the only car sold. Still has a similar condition 27 standard but is complete with all parts plus spares. I have purchased as a deal all associated 24 25 parts with the car. And basically they are putting all the parts they find with each car as a package due to the wishes of the will. Although we are talking two sheds and over ten cars. Hard to know what goes with what as there is at least three v8 cad blocks and a full spare motor Don't suppose you had the engine numbers for the cad's engines? Hoping there is a 61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 24 Buick: I hope they have the top sockets for your car. It has been a real trial to find the correct ones for my 1925 Standard tourer. Any Standard top sockets???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 15 minutes ago, hidden_hunter said: Don't suppose you had the engine numbers for the cad's engines? Hoping there is a 61 I will check the numbers but I know they won't sell seperatly due to the wishes of their father. But may get the number of whom buys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, 24 Buick said: I will check the numbers but I know they won't sell seperatly due to the wishes of their father. But may get the number of whom buys it. Thanks mate, we might be able to work something out between the caddy guys if someone does get the totality of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, dibarlaw said: 24 Buick: I hope they have the top sockets for your car. It has been a real trial to find the correct ones for my 1925 Standard tourer. Any Standard top sockets???? That's my issue at the moment, assuming that there is a whole car plus spares he accumulated over a lifetime I would like to get them so I can build a car and not hunt parts for years when I could get them now. Do you have a photo of what sockets you are talking about. I've ordered a parts manual but won't be here for a few weeks. Edited May 31, 2017 by 24 Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Post a picture of the water pump on the car and then we wiill know if it,s a 24 or a 25. the support brackets are different between the two years. Here are the chassis serial numbers for 1925. Edited May 31, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 24 Buick: This is what the sizes are for my Standard. The top for my 1925 Master should be similar to your car. I can get photos of it when needed. And the top mechanism is very similar to both series. The difference being that the rear of your car is narrower since it is a 4 passenger instead of a 5 passenger. The master parts book shows different #s for the rear bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 Wow thanks I am waiting to see who buys the 27 standard as it has a roof frame without bows. Would it be similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 1927 Standards have nickel plated frame plates instead of sockets and the wood fitted to them. Photo of a 1927-24 Roadster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Here is a photo of the current engine / water pump. Also what else is there. The 27 bows seem not nickel plated. Any determine features that stand out possibly the roof is meant to be on the 24. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) This is the only plate or number I can find on the body and chassis. And it's blank. There is a different style plate on the spare cowl I got with the parts. It has a different shape and stamping on it. Also has a mounted horn on firewall. Am I missing these parts. I just noticed that the plate only indicates 1925 cars... Edited June 1, 2017 by 24 Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Ok since there is no horn in the firewall I'm assuming I have a 1925 Buick master tourer? Now I'm more confused. Edited June 1, 2017 by 24 Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 24 Buick that engine in the car is a 25 engine, 1924 had the water pump support bracket on the radiator side of the water pump. 1925 had the pump support behind the water pump. So I think you have a 1925 - 55 Sport tourer. I was surprised when you said it was a 24, as I always understood it being a 25. Edited June 1, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Yes I agree as the motor in the car would be original. Having so many different parts with it was the curve ball. At least I can start the inventory now I have a definite answer. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 3 hours ago, ROD W said: 24 Buick that engine in the car is a 25 engine, 1924 had the water pump support bracket on the radiator side of the water pump. 1925 had the pump support behind the water pump. So I think you have a 1925 - 55 Sport tourer. I was surprised when you said it was a 24, as I always understood it being a 25. I was thrown because the sale was advertised as a 1924 master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 So welcome to the 1925 Buick fraternity! Now we have even more in common. Here is what the 1925-55 is to look like from period photos is Sage green. Of course these are left hand drive examples. I would think it would be a terror to work on the Starter Generator with the steering box on the right! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Not surprising that you have a 1925 with a different year wheels. 1925 was the first year for balloon tires, and the only year for 22" demountable rims. New tires became non existent for a long time. In the 60's, the owner of my car drove 150 miles in another car to find used 22" tires just to put the car on the road. Edited June 1, 2017 by Hubert_25-25 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Hugh. In the 70,s I changed my 25 standard over to 21" wheels as I could,t get the 22" tyres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Anyone have an original side views of a 25 6 engine. I've searched around but hard to know what is correct. So I can go back and get correct manifold etc as most parts that weren't with a square intake got put with the 27 standard. Which seems shorter in the block. Also a front engine shot thanks for everyone's help so far I hope to start inventory this weekend and work out what's missing. Then keen to start the build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) 25 Master Nothing is interchangeable between the Master and the Standard. Sorry this is a 26, but very similar to the 25. Edited June 1, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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