Hubert_25-25 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Feel free to give me any better pictures, but this is what I have. Any year changes that I missed too? So many subtle changes, Always nice when you see a block if you can identify it. In looking at a car that was for sale on Ebay, I was able to ID that it had a different year motor in it. Hugh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Love the side by side photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) The headlights you have on the car are with smooth reflectors and the one has an Osgood lens which is a feature for 1924. Your engine and frame #s will tell the tale of which year it should be. The flexible pipe was an addition from the oil filler. Also the bulb primer and filter. The fan is from a 1924 engine. I have the correct one that I am machining a replacement unit with sealed bearings. The coil is the original but should be mounted inside the cowl. My distributor is a newer DELCO that was fitted by the previous owner. Edited June 2, 2017 by dibarlaw (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 9 hours ago, Hubert_25-25 said: Feel free to give me any better pictures, but this is what I have. Any year changes that I missed too? So many subtle changes, Always nice when you see a block if you can identify it. In looking at a car that was for sale on Ebay, I was able to ID that it had a different year motor in it. Hugh Wow those pictures are keepers, thanks Hugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 Does anyone have a photo of the id plates and chassis numbers on their car. 1925 Buick master longwheel base. Just so I know what to look for when I head back to the sellers shed and look through his parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Rod W, That picture of the '24 that you posted earlier, do you have any photos from the rear? David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 The first photo is an engine plate. The second photo is a chassis tag. I would have to do some checking, but I think they are the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) David No rear photo,s of that car. It is in the Victorian Buick Club so you could contact the owner through the club. Those Photo,s of the red 24 posted by Dibarlaw are correct for the sport tourer Edited June 4, 2017 by ROD W (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 10:18 AM, ROD W said: Post a picture of the water pump on the car and then we wiill know if it,s a 24 or a 25. the support brackets are different between the two years. Here are the chassis serial numbers for 1925. Do you have serial number for the 1924? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 Well pulled the car out and pressure washed it looking better already. The radiator cowl has a stamping 192-1924 and seems to have engine plate removed and cowl seems like it could be non original. May explain the 1924 cowl I have separate. Are there differences in between the 24 and 25 model 55 apart from the engine and cowl. There is so many parts I'm not sure if he has gone and tried to make a car with the best parts he had regardless of the year..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Rod W, Thankyou for those additional photos. 25 Buick and others, these photos show the location of the chassis and engine tags on my car and the relative position of each to the other. David 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 Wow thanks for the photos. I cannot even see a spot where the chassis plate was attached. I will have to hunt down the plates hopefully they are somewhere in his shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 25 Buick, some more serial numbers. David, Your car looks like its coming along nicely Buick serial numbers.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ROD W Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Sport Tourer Numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 Wow, you have a wealth of knowledge rod. I may have to take a few road trips to pester you for info. I have relies in bundy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 4, 2017 Author Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 hours ago, 1924 6-55 Sport Tourer said: Rod W, Thankyou for those additional photos. 25 Buick and others, these photos show the location of the chassis and engine tags on my car and the relative position of each to the other. David David, is there places you source parts from for your restoration. Bushes etc. or just machine them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 25 Buick, I have been lucky to date with my car. It came as you see in my profile picture with no spares. My friend has been eBay. There is a bloke in Australia that lists all the spring shackle pins (in U.S. dollars). I have made all the spring bushes. I had plenty of alemite nipples in stock (left over from a previous restoration) to replace the ones that were missing. The rest - to date - has just been alot of hard dirty work stripping, cleaning , reassembly and painting. My rear brake drums were pretty sad. I met a bloke at Bendigo swap last year who restores/rebuilds brake drums. He did a cracking job and i would recommend him to anyone for brake drum repairs. I asked him how good will they be? His reply " within 20 thou". Good enough for me. All the work to date has been done by myself, i have new pistons ordered through JP pistons and currently have the block at an engineers awaitng the pistons before they can rebore. I have been having trouble tracking down valves. Bobs Automobilia in the States list valves for some models but i believe not all for my car. I am yet to contact them. Hope this helps. More to follow later if your interested David 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 25 buick My car is presently in NSW . Ran out of room in Bundy and had to move the 25 down to the farm. I only have a few parts in Bundy, so there is nothing to see. I am replacing all the wood in the car. Will let you know next time i head to Brisbane. Wouldn,t mind looking at that 27 in Nambour. But need another car like a hole in the head. Hopefully will get the car back to Bundy soon and get a bit more work done on it. David, Two of my brake drums aren,t in the best of condition, so will get a contact for that fellow who restores them. Keep us informed of your progress on your car and we always like photo,s on the Forum Rod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 I've got an engine block stamped 136392 just a bit above your block David. Would it be a 24 or 25 block it's a spare and not in my car. Finding it confusing to decode the numbers going from the info supplied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 25 Buick, I am a bit confused. With my extensive knowledge about Buicks I would have thought that your engine number of 136392 is 1 digit Short according to this chart. Am i correct? Should be 7 digits not 6. My engine number is 1137213. I found this chart posted somewhere else here in the Buick forum - google search - I hope that this info will help. Anyone else care to chime in? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 25 Buick, Can you provide a photo of the number you reference, with enough in the view around it so we can tell what part you are referring to. The casting numbers are 6 digit, and the serial numbers are 7 digit. Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 hours ago, 1924 6-55 Sport Tourer said: 25 Buick, I am a bit confused. With my extensive knowledge about Buicks I would have thought that your engine number of 136392 is 1 digit Short according to this chart. Am i correct? Should be 7 digits not 6. My engine number is 1137213. I found this chart posted somewhere else here in the Buick forum - google search - I hope that this info will help. Anyone else care to chime in? David Yes correct sorry, 1136392 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 25 Buick That spare engine you have is a 24 engine. 1924 six cylinder engine numbers run from 1087630 - 1273001 1925 Master engine numbers run from 1273001 - 1456915 That spare engine you have with engine number 1136392 is 1924, It has the square intake manifold and the 24 water pump. The engine in your car is a 1925 as the water pump support is behind the pump not on the radiator side. Also the plate on your cowl has all 25 models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 7, 2017 Author Share Posted June 7, 2017 3 hours ago, ROD W said: 25 Buick That spare engine you have is a 24 engine. 1924 six cylinder engine numbers run from 1087630 - 1273001 1925 Master engine numbers run from 1273001 - 1456915 That spare engine you have with engine number 1136392 is 1924, It has the square intake manifold and the 24 water pump. The engine in your car is a 1925 as the water pump support is behind the pump not on the radiator side. Also the plate on your cowl has all 25 models Thanks rod. yes my block in the car is missing the tag I will go through the other blocks and hopefully find a tag to suit the correct year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Here are the 6 digit lower block casting numbers on the right. Not to be mistaken with the 6 digit part numbers on the left. If you are missing the 7 digit serial number tag, this will get you in the ballpark. Hugh Edited June 7, 2017 by Hubert_25-25 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I am now getting more in depth with my build since determining the year and model. Now I'm interested in working out where it came from. I have read that McLaughlin Buick the had a timber dash. Holden and imports had steel dash. Mine has a wood dash that would have been covered with leather. What is the woodwork dash ment to look like? I assume a covered timber dash is not what everyone talks about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 25 Buick, How about posting a couple of pictures to help clarify what you are asking about. Others might have examples to share. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybuick Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 hi all are you sure about the dash all of the 25 standards that I have seen in new Zealand had a wooden dash and I pulled two cars apart to make mine complete are the masters that different I have also seen those brake drums at the swap meet when I went to Australia and I'm sure he told me they were made of cast iron which might work better than the steel drums did you get the cast ones or were yours the steel repaired thanks tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Ah yes rookie error under the timber is steel pressed dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1924 6-55 Sport Tourer Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Tonybuick, My drums are steel. I believe that all Buicks of this vintage had steel drums, so i dont believe cast are appropriate. Like all brake drums they are unique in size and stud locations, finding second hand ones that are not worn or distorted would be like finding hens teeth! As the original drums are 90 + years old they have not done a bad job, and i feel that by getting new bands fitted to them they should at least last another 90 years - although i feel that i wont . A small price to pay David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonybuick Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 hi all why do you feel they would be inappropriate is it because its not what they were made with or other reasons it is a softer steel they might bite in better and these cars need all the help we can offer for the brakes I probably wouldn't change now that the car is going but if I needed to do the drums it might be worth looking at they did stop using steel on cars and we still do hill work and some long runs at times( got to watch the following distance) thanks tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26-25Buick Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 25 Buick, There was no Buick dealer network in Australia until late 1926 when GM-H was formed so before then it was the individual dealers importing the chassis and fitting bodies from various coach builders, mostly Holden admittedly but there were some others as well. I suspect therefore the dealer got a lot more say in how the car would be finished and you saw individuality not only between dealers but also Australian states. For example ours is an early 1926 from a Victorian dealer but that may not be an indication of what the other coach builders were doing at the time. Anyway what I'm working around to is our Standard has a wooden facia (I'm no wood expert but I think it's probably a Queensland Maple - a softwood) and the doors tops are the similar although they are a hardwood of some type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I was lucky enough to find this car a few months ago in the proses of id myself i believe its a 1923 mclaclan 45 model no Australian plates or x on the engine block so im thinking its from canada. Thanks to a member here called Sean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27donb Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 hours ago, 26-25Buick said: 25 Buick, There was no Buick dealer network in Australia until late 1926 when GM-H was formed so before then it was the individual dealers importing the chassis and fitting bodies from various coach builders, mostly Holden admittedly but there were some others as well. I suspect therefore the dealer got a lot more say in how the car would be finished and you saw individuality not only between dealers but also Australian states. For example ours is an early 1926 from a Victorian dealer but that may not be an indication of what the other coach builders were doing at the time. Anyway what I'm working around to is our Standard has a wooden facia (I'm no wood expert but I think it's probably a Queensland Maple - a softwood) and the doors tops are the similar although they are a hardwood of some type. Wow! So different than the US version! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 26-25buick, thanks for for the information, I am missing a lot of parts body and interior parts. With the help of everyone so far I am starting to get an idea of how it used to look and what parts I need to source. thanks Brendan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James veld Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The timber they used back then was ash ive been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 I have found a chassis tag in a box of parts when going through his shed. Tag number 1300968. Would this be correct? For a 1925-6-55x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yes that fits into the 1925 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 Buick Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 13/06/2017 at 6:11 PM, 25 Buick said: I have found a chassis tag in a box of parts when going through his shed. Tag number 1300968. Would this be correct? For a 1925-6-55x Is this a certain model or is it just the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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