Guest Jim C. Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Hi Forum -- I am an archaeologist recording a possible tie-hack cabin in the Wyoming Range that has two antique cars on the property. Here are some photos of one of the vehicles and I would appreciate any help in identifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The gauges is from a Willys 1931.Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Yes, the dashboard is 1931 or 1932 Willys as far as I can decipher, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 This dash is from Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodfiddler Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I'm a bit confused... (nothing new). The 4 pictures, does the dash belong to car in the radiator/headlamp photo or... what is what here? Scratching my head...Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 WoodfiddlerYou are not the only one scratching his head. What is a "tie-hack" cabin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Before the car was completely shot It could have been made into some kind of a farm rig. ( just make it work ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Before the car was completely shot It could have been made into some kind of a farm rig. ( just make it work )When you say the car was shot did you mean worn out or are you eluding to the hundreds of bullet holes!! ? Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 A tie hack is a person who makes railroad ties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 When I stated; before the car was completely shot I had in mind, both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prs519 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I do not think that is a sleeve valve engine, but I may be wrong.Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLynskey Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Willys-Knight, one of several brands made by the Willys Overland Company, used the Knight sleeve valve engine. Other Willys products did not.Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hddennis Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I do not think that is a sleeve valve engine, but I may be wrong.Perry One of the dead give-aways of a Knight engine is the OHV style head cover and the hemi style through the valve cover mounting of the spark plugs. Howard Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim C. Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Thanks guys -- I was able to track down the dash and engine based on your tips as indeed a Willys from 1931/32. I was having a hard time matching up the radiator shroud to the Willys from that period but then I found a guy who was a kid when his family owned the cabin. He was sure it was an International Harvester that belonged to employees of his family. With that info, I was able to track down a few references that stated that Willys did indeed build these pickups to be marketed by IH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim C. Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Hi Dave,That is clearly my dashboard. The reference to Sweden: was this a model that was particularly marketed in Scandinavia? The reason I ask is because the cabin I'm recording was built with a very rare building technique specifically associated with Swedes and generally with other Scandinavians. Another connection is the dominance of Swedes and other Scandinavians in the timbering profession, so I'm particularly interested in any Swedish connection to the things found up there. Also, do you own this picture and, if so, can I use it in my report.Thanks!Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Although this car is now established as an IH/Willys. thought I'd offer this re the Knight engine divergence which resulted. Couple of weeks ago the Packard Automobile Club of Australia had a weekend run to Eden in the South East corner of the country. While there we visited the Sapphire Coast Historic Vehicles Club's premises, where there is a Knight engine on display in the clubhouse. The engine had been found on a rubbish dump, rescued and "restored" as a cutaway display which has a crank attached enabling it to be turned allowing the sleeve valve operation to be observed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Thanks guys -- I was able to track down the dash and engine based on your tips as indeed a Willys from 1931/32. I was having a hard time matching up the radiator shroud to the Willys from that period but then I found a guy who was a kid when his family owned the cabin. He was sure it was an International Harvester that belonged to employees of his family. With that info, I was able to track down a few references that stated that Willys did indeed build these pickups to be marketed by IH.[/quoteThis picture came from a Bing search . I only used it because It was a good shot of the dash. I like to give credit but it only had Sweden in the tagline. I don't think it's any different than a US model but I can't say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 willys 1931 - Bing Images Just schroll down a little bit.Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim C. Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Okay -- thanks for the help! Feel like I've got a pretty good ID on this vehicle now. Would like a good pic for the report of a restored one but not w/out permission of the owner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKTX Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's a '33 International D-1, that's the first year for the Willys based IH and only year for that body style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's a '33 International D-1, that's the first year for the Willys based IH and only year for that body style.Good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryJ Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'm fascinated with the transmission............is it a column shift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozstatman Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I'm fascinated with the transmission............is it a column shift?Very much doubt that, column shifts were generally a late 30's feature, I think it's a stick shift. The lever bottom of which would be enclosed in a housing which attaches to the bellhousing in front of the trans. The large circular space in the first picture of the first post is where the gear lever housing mounts. Please correct me if I'm wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jim C. Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Here's another picture of the tranny area if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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