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OK, HOW OLD ARE YOU?? FUTURE OF LZOC

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I have noticed a change in the club magazine, reminds me of the Continental Comments of past years...lots of pics of a few cars and folks with trophys. Seems more and more obits and reflections from retirees. I have been reading it since the beginning, and through several editors..,it has always featured a half dozen members and their very high end cars. I was saddened to read of Mr Coombs passing, and recall him telling me at Dearborn '89 that the cars were too old to drive anymore, saddened I grumbled away and thought, gee I guess I missed the boat...

Well 20 years later, I am really enjoying my car but not the club or the oddly timed meets..Soooo, the question is.....what is the future of this LZOC...seems most active members are getting up there!! see this thread http://forums.aaca.org/f169/our-future-board-directors-312486.html

Most car guys that I know are rodders...they like my 12, but chuckle and cant believe I actually drive it! I am 52... I know jim zephyr and Paul 40zeph

are 2 good exceptions...but just curious...Are these car destined to be museum pieces and rat rods?? Lzoc fades away after Mr Cole stops, rumor has it Mr A from PA is looking to move his priceless 39....and talk seems to often focus on leagcys as opposed to roadtrips.... Long live Bob Olmstead!! (see your magazine index)

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OK, 65 in November, but not feeling it nor ready for retirement, tho I'd get the '41 done a lot quicker if I did. I think Cole does a very professional job on TWOTZ but I miss the get-your-hands-dirty journalism that should at least be covered in Tech Tips, and I do sense a bit of elite-ism. I'm less interested in what bracket came with center bumpers than how to seal a transmission leak. I'm a little irked that I gave him lots of information on Rolf Burdette, who contributed his vast knowledge, skills, and parts to many of us but he hardly got a mention in the obits. Still, I'll never want Cole's job.

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Well Hello I am 72 and was a member back in 59 LCOC and was there when the LZOC was started. I recently rejoined both clubs and AACA mainly to sell parts that I was storing. Instead I bought a 42 Lincoln Continental coupe that had been in storage for 45 plus years. What a differance 31+ years has made in the clubs and parts. I am trying to build a driver I always enjoyed driving my L C's and I had a senior 42 back in 62-63. LCOC. The computor has changed our world I would go to meets with a parts list and problems of restoration. Now I go to my computor and have answers in no time at all.

I believe the club will keep going but it has and will change as we all do. I was only doing original upholstery and Bob Anderson told me back in the 70's that I had to change or become obsolete. I now do a lot of original but street rod and customs pay the bills. I still enjoy auto upholstery just a different attitude. Leroy Waldren Fort Myers, Fl,

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Happy Birthday Keith!! thanks for responding...you are one of the young'ins

I have always felt like a beginner who looked up to guys like Jake F and Bob Anderson, and of course our friend Mr Murphy and his very nice wife (God rest her soul).

The old guard is fading away...that was my point.

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Happy Birthday Keith!! thanks for responding...you are one of the young'ins

I have always felt like a beginner who looked up to guys like Jake F and Bob Anderson, and of course our friend Mr Murphy and his very nice wife (God rest her soul).

The old guard is fading away...that was my point.

Did Mrs. Murphy passaway?

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I am 76 and about to retire from a 44 yr career with State Farm as an agent. A wonderful experience I might add. Our cars are a classic thing of beauty. The design put into a three d object by Bob Gregorie will live long after we are ALL gone. There will always be those who appreciate these cars and they will keep the faith and the" faithful" alive. The organization I really appreciate.

The wisdom and information coming from this org is a wonderful well spring. I have to believe that the latter is the life blood. Thanks to everyone who helped me rebuild my 48 LC. Glenn Lorei b6vt

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49 here, and of course, still driving it. Following up to an earlier comment, I said years ago that the Zephyr club really needs to embrace the Internet, and in fact, if you need parts or advice, that's the quickest way to get either.

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Will turn 65 at the end of October, and don't look or feel a day over 64, honest! Rode the Harley from Kent, Ohio to Wyoming and Montana this summer so driving a Lincoln should be a snap.

My plans with my 41 Continental are to finish it this winter which only requires the motor installation and replacing the top motors and screws with a set I recently bought. Then to take it to one national Lincoln meet for judging, then watch out world cause I will put the top down and drive it as it was meant to be.

I have been a member of LCOC, or should say used to be for years, then as it started getting away from V-12's I started moving away from LCOC. Joined LZOC a few years ago and it was light years ahead of anything the LCOC offered at the time in my opinion.

As a lot of us are baby boomers, I think it is only natural the shift in direction of the club magazine but as the pendulum swings, younger members will step up and bring the focus back the other direction.

I personally would love to see more interest in small local gatherings a couple of times a year with our cars being actually driven and enjoyed. The national meets are fine but once a year doesnt really do much for those of us to actually get out and enjoy our cars.

John Murphy's wife Marjorae did pass away, a wonderful lady and a horrible loss to everyone that knew her.

Tom

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Well, shoot. Looks to me so far that I'm the Spring chicken here. I'm 31.

I enjoy the LCOC when it comes, but having come up on hot rods and more DIY-focused stuff, I can see what you're talking about. I would love more tech tips and "dirty hands" articles. But that being said, our rides are supposed to be show pieces. Even daily drivers are better looking than almost anything out there. So I understand that if the average age of the clubs are skewing high, they would be more inclined to show off their labors of love. I like all the pictures -considering that my '48 is so far from complete that those pics give me something to hope for.

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ok here i go, i am 72 and the only thing i say is if i can not drive it i dont want it.

1937 chevrolet------takes me coffee ever morning.

but i drive them all-------dont really care for car shows

1947 V-12 Lincoln

1948 flat head cadillac

1956 thunderbird

1927 Huomobile

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Well here is my "2 bits" I agree with a lot Tom Overfield said. I have been in the

LZOC since 1986 , charter # 86 . When I started my 1st car , a 1942 LC cab

I joined the LCOC, that lasted until about 1972 or 1973 when that club seem

to be going in a different direction. I'am a "hands on " type of car guy and

so was my mentor , Tom Learch. It took me 32 years to finish my 1938 LZ

conv. coupe, and what did I do at the age of 69; I bought a sad 1948 LC

coupe and here we go again ! Several nights this summer I have worked un-

til 11:30 pm trying to save this part of Autumotive History. Enough about me,

if the club is going to continue, we need more "hands on " type of members. I

feel the hobby is about the cars , not the money . It is a great feeling to hear

a HV12 engine come back to life after so many years neglected. Sorry if I ramble on, I think I used "4 bits"

Larry Butcher

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Well, I turned 78 a couple of weeks ago, and sometimes I really feel it. However, I just embarked on a project to install a Columbia Overdrive in my 1941 Lincoln Continental. It's somewhat more difficult now than it used to be.

I've been a member of LCOC since aquiring my 1947 Lincoln Continental in Santa Maria, California in 1964, where I first met Dave Cole. I didn't find out about the LZOC until about 1970, after relocating from Santa Maria to Los Angeles.

I got lucky in 2005 and got the 1941 Lincoln Continental I've REALLY wanted ever since I can remember. It's amostly original (tired) car with 84k miles on it and it definitly needs the Columbia Axle!

Now that us old-timers are passing away, I wonder what the LZOC will be like in a few years......

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Larry,

Tom Lerch was the person that got me started in the right direction on my Continental back in 1974 when I bought it. He lived in N. Canton and I was in Akron, so it was just a short drive down on weekends to talk cars and dip into his stock of homade wine on occassion.

Small world.

Tom

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hi y'all, turn 63 on labor day !!!!!!!!!!!!! an old lincoln zephyr guy named sherman renard???? was a president for the lzoc he live in burton, oh. i think? i was about 32yr old turn me on to lincoln zephyrs boy did he have some cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)larry

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Great responses guys!! I was turned on to Lz's from charter member Tom Mauder, He took me to a Lcoc meet in Angola Indiana, 71/ 72?? I was hooked..I always liked old cars (all 12 years of my life) but when I saw those gleaming aluminum heads and awesome shiney engines ..I knew I had found my true love.... Tom included his nephew (jim zeph) and I on his Lincoln excursions....He taught me the Lincoln Faith....and he was strict..it had to be as Henry built it period... Sherm Rinard...he had a Custom I believe..is he around anymore??

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Well the issues are that the cars are not desirable to a younger age group, nor are they able to buy them due to the astronomical prices for the cars and parts. The younger generations also have no memory of these cars, nor sentimentality. Those are the issues.

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Sherm Rinard in Burton, Ohio? Is this the guy that had a couple of HUGE buildings full of cars and parts mostly all Lincolns?

I went with Tom Lerch and several other guys to his home one winter to look at a 40 Continental Convertible he had stored in a barn a few miles from his home. After we finished there, we went to his home and had a tour of one of the buildings housing I dont know how many cars and floor to ceiling shelfs with Lincoln parts, and that was just one building. If this is the same person, I think he passed away not too long after we were at his home.

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Interesting thread. Perhaps the fate of the Model T can be instructive. All the folks who bought them new are gone. Most of their children are going, or are getting too old to drive. A whole new generation is buying, joining clubs, and enjoying. I think my car will be around long after I'm gone.

I'm in the middle of the pack, 65, and when I retired, I bought a motorcycle, and electric guitar, and a 48 Lincoln Continental Cabriolet. No lack of things to do around here.

Abe

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Talking to Peecher the other day about my age of 81 and the fact that the Lincoln starters

have increased in weight in the last ten years. That is if you have to lay on your back and lift

one out and another one in to bolt up.

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Talking to Peecher the other day about my age of 81 and the fact that the Lincoln starters

have increased in weight in the last ten years. That is if you have to lay on your back and lift

one out and another one in to bolt up.

It seems like all parts have gotten heavier. I'm 72 and was only 20 when I restored my first 42 coupe. This one is taking a lot longer. Lee Waldren

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I'm 74 and still love to drive my '41 continental.

I once had the chance to trade a '39 Ford standard with a 6o hp engine for a '46 Lincoln convertible. The guy wanted better gas mileage. I didn't trade.

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Fortyone,

Looking back, I owned a 1950 Studebaker Convertible, 1958 Chevy Impala, 1955 Fprd TBird,

1951 Cad Coupe Deville, 1950 Rocket Olds, 1935 Ford, 1928 Plymouth coupe with rumble,

1948 olds, 1955 Chevy, 1956 Chevy and 1957 Chevy. Traded all of them in{gave away] with

not much trade in value. O why did I not keep them!

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Well, I just turned 36 last week.

I've been a Zephyr fan for a few years now, but one of the problems I see are the astronomical price for LZ parts.

I've got a 39 sedan, and a 38 coupe. Fortunately, I purched the pair from a friend, but just trying to find a set of 39 bumpers and taillights about put me in the poorhouse! ha ha!

Perhaps one benefit of the high prices is that the younger guys may be building cars that would otherwise have never been looked at twice. My 38 coupe was full of rust, and someone had cut the roof off of it years ago to haul a canoe. It was in such bad shape, perhaps I'm the only one who saw the potential in it!

Thanks,

Keith

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