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Hey Todd,

Besides being a Pontiac-Olds-Cadillac-Buick fan in that order, I'm also into VW-Porsche. BTY that mixed car I mentioned above was a car that Porsche himself raced and won the Exelberg hill climb in 1902. The HUB motors provided literal front wheel drive, which also counteracted to provide electric brakes, with "completely nose- free driving" and none of the disadvantages of other designs using clutch, chains or gears ! Did you know that Porsche also designed the famous Tiger Tank ? and of course the 200 plus mph Auto Union Grand Prix race cars of the late thirties.

Don

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Why no mention of so called "power enhancing" or fuel saving devices like the magnets on fuel lines or the intake inserts like the Tornado air management system?

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GM's PR department seems to like to claim they invented everything, but 4 wheel steering was offered years earlier in the Mitsubishi 3000. The front and back wheels turned in the same direction or in opposite directions depending on vehicle speed.

Some early WWII Jeeps were made with 4-wheel steering but they were deemed impractical.I believe a few still exist.

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The Chrysler Turbine was not a flop because it was never offered for sale. Chrysler pursued the project for 12 years, and had hopes to be "the Turbine company". The engine uses far fewer moving parts than a piston engine. The men who worked on that project were brilliant, and were an elete core of engineers. Unfortunately the technology available to them at the time did not help counteract the negatives as seen by the 200 families that took part in the test program. The universal negatives from the surveys were

1) very slow off the line, at a time when cars were getting really good at that

2) No descernable engine braking when you let off the accelerator, so all of the braking was on the car's service brakes, which were more than adequate for the task, they compensated for the lack of engine braking by oversizing the service brakes. It just felt weird to the test subjects as it reacted differently than any other car they had driven before.

3) Fuel economy--11-13 mpg, not ideal. Many test subjects said that this was the deal breaker.

Chrysler thought they were close to taking the product to the market, they had Engel design

that unique body, Ghia fabricated the 50 units and shipped them to Detroit where they were finished.

I have met many of the surviving engineers, a great bunch of men.

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Today, a gas turbine would work very well in a turbine/electric situation with no battery pack (Prius type). In other words like how a diesel locomotive works. The engine would run at a steady state, good for emissions and efficiency and provide steady power for the dynamo supplying current for the electric traction motor.

Don

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Guest 60electra225

What were some of the most memorable auto inventions or innovations that eventually became unsuccessful Flops !

Shouldn't that be SUCCESSFUL flops ? If it was an unsuccessful flop, it wouldn't have been a flop !

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