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  1. Just a brief recap for Licespray on a very interesting real life story. Circa 1962 Henry Ford II announced that Ford would make an effort to be involved in racing in most major series in America and from 1962-70 they had a major presence. Legend has it that in 1963 Henry II approached Enzo Ferrari to buy his company and they reached a deal but Enzo bailed out. An embarrassed Henry vowed to develop a sports car to beat Ferrari at LeMans and by 1966 they did, famously developing the GT40 and finishing 1-2-3 in triumph then winning again in 1967-69. Like most car movies I am sure this one has some “dramatic license” and I wonder about Henry II weeping in fright after a ride with Carroll Shelby but it is all a good story regardless, Todd C
  2. Excellent points from Greg in Canada. In my area the roots of the old car hobby (also racing and other car activities) were the blue collar middle class guys of the 1960s and 1970s. Their situation usually included: A stable job with some disposable income and leisure time A farm or ranch house on a spacious lot with room for a detached garage or shop Mechanical experience/ability and a collection of tools, often second generation as Greg noted. At 51 I am about the same age as mrcvs and anyone younger than we are much less likely to have the above as part of our lifestyle, especially if you live in a high cost metro area rather than a small town. Greg in Canada mentions cost vs income as a concern and it is. HOWEVER with that said I will throw in a bit of real optimism. It is indeed true that restoration costs are out of reach for most middle class families now. BUT that is only a problem for a full restoration project. If you can enjoy and drive a car and that does not need to be disassembled, painted and restored your cost can be quite reasonable. A fun collector car can easily be purchased for under $10,000 and best of all it can be serviced and freshened as your skills allow and not require years to restore. It just won’t be a Hemi Cuda or 1957 Chevy convertible; it will more likely be a Valiant or 1975 Chevy. Adjusted for inflation even some “icon” cars like Model As and 1955-57 Thunderbirds are cheaper than they were 20 years ago. Also with the internet providing forums like this, YouTube, EBay and the other services we did not have in the 1980s much how-to information is easier to access. Many basic tools are cheaper than they used to be and easier to find too, and many parts are easier to source too. An amateur hobbyist can enjoy servicing and maintaining an old car in a suburban garage if they really want to, they just can’t afford to buy a project and restore it from the ground up. And they must exercise judgement and patience in selecting the right car to avoid a money pit. That impatience is the real problem with most amateur efforts; be thoughtful and you can enjoy the hobby for middle class money, you don't have to be a mechanic, you just have to be smart and careful, Todd C
  3. Hello mrcvs, your observations are a real issue IMO. Of course like anything they can be overcome if one is really enthusiastic but it is a hill to climb as you point out.
  4. I have experienced what Matt cites above and agree that many people could use a little more focus than that. I have found it better for me to have a drivable car while a project is underway. I have my one eternal marathon project that I worked on for 20 years between acquisition and the first drive during the restoration and for most people this would be very unsatisfying. However for a retiree working full time it might be OK if you would only be a year or two rather than 20 and are experienced enough to have enough patience to keep going, Todd C
  5. Dave Fields is correct, I wouldn't touch that car, too much $$ and every item has been messed with. Read the red flags here.......allegedly 36,000 miles and very original BUT body has been removed from the frame so everything could be slathered with black paint? This was probably a decent car bought for a quick flip to an inexperienced buyer IMO, Todd C
  6. Great story David, I enjoyed reading that and also nice to see that one hobbyist can still help another without just trying to wring the last nickel out of the transaction, Todd C
  7. I agree with Phil on this (Hi Phil, thanks for chiming in on this and welcome to the forum). I have been an OCW subscriber for (I think) 35 years and going to the Iola Swap Meet almost that long. The new look of the magazine is no big thrill for me BUT I do think they have good content and some of the best writers they have ever had including Phil, Gerald Perschbacher(sp), Kit Foster and others. Good luck to Angelo and the others involved and I certainly hope to see OCW for many years, Todd C
  8. Mark's comments sound right to me, I also noticed the back of the touring car with disc wheels which became popular by 1923 so I am saying the date is (my guess) 1923
  9. The upside is parts for this transmission are available and reasonable at www.autotran.us
  10. Considering 1963-64 GM B bodies you are no doubt aware that there are LOTS of parts available for Impalas. I have had a 1963 Pontiac for many years and can confirm that your Buick (and my Pontiac) can also use the following Impala parts: Convertible top and related frame, motor and hydraulics, cables, weatherstrip, etc. All glass and window frames, including brackets and regulators. Door and windshield weatherstrip PROBABLY outside door handles and locks and most related hardware As you note these are all Fisher Body interchanges, there is very little shared in chassis mechanicals. Good luck with yours, Todd C
  11. Exactly my experience, that if I find something like that I'll buy an extra or two for (relative) pennies thinking someday it may save me a trip into town searching for a hard to find little part
  12. If it works I will remember to get you the royalty payments
  13. Sounds good, if they work well you might grab a few extra while you have them available
  14. By that time they interchange pretty broadly in like body types (i.e convertible to convertible, sedan to sedan) and may vary slightly only in little attachments. A convertible rear seat should interchange between an Impala and a LeSabre no problem. The front seat MIGHT have a variance in side shields and trim, closely compare some photos and you should find the upholstered part is the same. As Pfeil says the brackets vary a bit but the seat frames cover lots of applications. I personally bought 1964 Impala SS seat covers to install in a 1964 Pontiac convertible interior with bucket seats and all soft trim fit fine, including top boot, well liner and rear seat armrest covers, good luck with yours, Todd C
  15. I am still trying to figure out how I can get a major motion picture to feature 1957 Pontiacs........
  16. Hmmm......I might try to work that into the conversation..... THEM: "Look at this 1975 Chevy Nova 4dr. They built 200,000 but now they are very rare, especially with the optional lighted ash tray." ME: "200,000 built but now few remain? Sounds MEDIUM rare to me." I LIKE IT, thanks Xander, Todd C
  17. Rare is an overused term for sure, usually associated with a sales pitch to imply value and a bit tiresome for me especially when used to hype a regular production car with unusual equipment. Yesterday I saw a Marti report on a Lincoln that showed about 5000 units produced but statistically reduced down to a one-of-one that was painted white with both a cassette deck and a garage door opener (I am not making this up). I think (but am not sure) that the owner saw the absurdity and was good humored about the "honor", Todd C
  18. Hi Matt, I always respect your expertise and candor and I think you are right about 60 years of spotty refurbishment attempts being their usual problem. They were indeed recognized as something special very early and had a following by the time they were 20 years old. I would venture to say most were restored in the 1970s and 1980s so they were restored at 20-30 years old and now the restoration work is 30+ years old, complete with 30 year old tires and rubber. My dad bought a 1955 T-bird in 1980 and that was my first entry into the old car world, so I have a soft spot for them. But alas I am not blind to their faults and unfortunately Bernie's comments about the Budd bodies are all correct, Todd C (PS--Bernie correctly says T-bird bodies did not fit and flow like a GM body but I would add neither did Corvettes from the 1950s-70s)
  19. Well that is pretty much my take, with the added point that leaving your soft top folded while the hardtop is on will ruin it. . Glad that I am not missing the logic on this, thanks, Todd C
  20. Hey Matt, just an aside on this, sports car people in general always love to refer to "both tops" and T-Bird people in particular. What do your customers REALLY tell you about the ownership experience dealing with both tops? I have always thought storing a removable hardtop to be a hassle more trouble than it is worth, is it just me? Todd C
  21. I saw this on Facebook last week and thought it was very clever using an "image-in-the-mirror" appearance like an ambulance:
  22. When I was learning upholstery in the mid-1980s my mentors said the same of Wiss trimmers shears. I made it a point to buy several all of which I still use, it is an honor to have a Wiss family member join us here on the site, Todd C
  23. Hello Flying A, and welcome to the AACA forum. I am speaking to you from the Pontiac side of GM and have long been intrigued by the logistics (or is that illogic?) of GM shipping bodies between plants. SHORT ANSWER I believe Chevy convertible bodies in 1955-57 were indeed built at the Lansing Fisher Body plant and shipped out to their respective assembly plants, so your car is likely correct. IIRC all Pontiac convertible bodies were built there too in this manner in 1955-56 (station wagons also worked this way out of Cleveland). To further check numbers (at least on Pontiacs) you can get the convertible production number and the Atlanta plant serial numbers and see if both body and chassis appear to be from about the same time of the year. LONGER ANSWER and the interesting part of this example to me is that in 1957 all Pontiac convertible bodies were moved to Pontiac (MI) Fisher Body. And now even though the Fisher plant in Pontiac was adjacent to the Pontiac Assembly plant they STILL shipped convertible bodies to the branch plants for final assembly, probably 10-15% of the time. I ask would it not be easier to ship an entire assembled car on wheels rather than a painted body shell as an immobile unit? It all dates back to the earliest days of the automobile when building the rolling chassis and powertrain was the job of the MOTOR division and the responsibility for building a body was a different discipline and subcontracted to a coachbuilder (who had usually evolved from a carriage builder). GM merged in Fisher Body to be their in-house coachbuilder and the car was provided by two divisions—the car division to produce the rolling chassis and the front end sheet metal and Fisher Body to build the painted and trimmed body shell from the firewall back. SO Fisher would ship bodies from its plants to the car plants nearby in Detroit/Flint. As branch assembly plants were built around the country each usually had a Fisher plant nearby to feed it bodies and indeed Fisher was larger and ran more plants than each car division. And even though this division of work was rooted in the early 1900s it was the GM way until the mid-1980s. As Dave39 says, building a convertible or station wagon body rather than a normal sedan or hardtop was unique enough to justify a dedicated separate plant with nationwide shipping. Good luck with yours, Todd C
  24. I had not thought about that, yet another plus for the four post in a home garage. Indeed my 24ft space is actually more like 23.5 inside as frank questioned, Todd C
  25. This vent window comment is an excellent tip and the dash chrome was indeed my red flag on the Corvair. I agree the Mustang is not a bargain at $18,500 BUT note the seller said "negotiable" which means to me it could be a good deal if closer to $15,000 or maybe less. Upon in-person inspection that is, and Mustang convertibles are notorious rust buckets so an inspection is a must, Todd C