Ultimate 18-Car Collection

[jeff_a]

Earlier this month, I left a post on the Peerless Forum listing what an ideal 18-Car Collection would be for me.... and am curious what other people would put in such a list.

Anyone care to leave their own list here? No limits to what year or price or whether it's a car or truck, just 18 vehicles that have actually been built (don't have to still exist). My list has 6 postwar and 12 prewar cars on it.

ANYONE is welcome to contribute -- even Mr. Leno, who already HAS his eighteen-car wish list, but hasn't exactly limited himself to that number. ---Jeff

[West Peterson]

I had intended to put together just such a list for my July issue of Antique Automobile. When I was done, there were 126 cars on it, and I cannot bare to take even one car off. In fact, I've added a few since publishing the list.

[jeff_a]

Well, here are my choices, though the cars on it change from time to time:

1. 1900 Peerless Type 1, Model A, 1-Cyl.

2. 1912 Peerless Limousine, Model 60-Six, [825 cu. in.] 6-Cyl.

3. 1922 Lincoln V-8*

4. 1925 Duesenberg, Straight-8*

5. 1927 Packard Single Six Sedan, 6-Cyl.*

6. 1927 Peerless Six-80 Sedan, 6-Cyl.

7. 1927 Pierce-Arrow Club Sedan, Series 80, 6-Cyl.*

8. 1929 Auburn, Straight-8*

9. 1929 Peerless Model 8-125, Straight-8

10. 1929 Cord L-29, Straight-8*

11. 1929 Ford Town Car, Model A, [Madras carbuncle & Black] 4-Cyl.

12. 1931 Peerless Murphy Aluminum Sedan, V-16*

13. 1953 Chevrolet Corvette, 6-Cyl.

14. 1955 Ford Thunderbird, V-8

15. 1963 Studebaker Avanti, V-8

16. 1968 Lamborghini Miura, V-12

17. 1972 Lamborghini Espada, V-12

18. 1989 Lamborghini LM 002, [their only 4WD truck] V-12

*Classic

Edited October 14, 2010 by jeff_a (see edit history)

[Guest 1926pack]

A 1927 Packard 6 sedan? Now that's a list I can live with!!

[MarkV]

Well, not in any particular order:

1. Any 1800's or early 1900's car

2. First year of the Model T

3. First year of Chevrolet

4. Stanley Steamer

5. Early Electric Car

6. 1930 Model A in original condition (not redone)

7. 1948 Tucker

8. 1937 Studebaker President (Maroon)

9. 1935 Airflow

10.1937 Lincoln Zephyr

11. 1940 Lincoln Continental

12. Any late 30's-40's Packard or other Luxury cars

13. 1958 Chrysler Imperial Lebaron (creme white)

14. 1956 Lincoln Mark II

15. 1963 Lincoln Continental

16. 1981 Delorean in flawless condition

17. 1972 Lincoln MKIV Black on black (flawless)

18. 1977 Cadillac Seville (Brown with a beige interior it would have to be my grandpa's! Only one of those!)

[1937hd45]

My list is based cars I've read about and seen since I started going to shows in 1961, I've been lucky enough to work on several on the list. There are a few that are special to me and may not rate high on others lists.

1899 Panhard et Levassor 4 cylinder rear entrance tourer

1899 De Dion-Bouton Trike

1904 Autocar Touring with coffee grinder steering

1908 Stearns 45-90

1909 Model T Ford Touring two pedal two lever early one

1909 Thomas K6-70

1910 Kelsey Motorette (made here in Connecticut)

1910 Locomobile Toy Tonneau (Great car made in Connecticut)

1911 Mercer Raceabout (The one the Doctor has now)

1923 MILLER 122 Indy Car

1925 Bentley 3 Litre Tourer

1927 Bugatti Type 37A (the one I painted years ago)

1928 Bugatti Type 43A (if you have one you need another)

1927 Vauxhall 30/98 Touring

1929 Cord L29 Cabriolet

1932 Alfa Romeo 1750

1937 Sparks-Weirick Gilmore #33 Indy Car

1950 Ferarri Barchetta roadster

I could add more but these are the 18 I'd like to have

[Guest DaveCorbin]

I notice that a couple of the groups have in them what I thinks is "the sexiest car alive" by mentioning a Cord L29. To my mind, it is Al Leaming's best, even ahead of J Duesebergs. Sad that he died so young, we almost surely lost some really great car designs.

Regards Dave Corbin

[57plymouth]

Mine is simple:

18 1957 Plymouths. All colors and body styles. Motors, trim, options, whatever. Just 18 1957 Plymouths.

[R Walling]

A red neck that I know in Kentucy would be glad if any one of his 18 cars ran!

[ex98thdrill]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> left a post on the Peerless Forum listing what an ideal 18-Car Collection would be for me.... and am curious what other people would put in such a list</div></div>Soumds like a good idea, but I'm not sure we could cut our collection down to 18. If we bring home another 18 cars, my dad and I are going to get shot.

If I could add another 18 cars I could think of a few of the following vehicles offhand:

1. 1955 Chevy Bel-Air.

2. 1965-66 Ford Shelby Mustang.

3. 2006-8 Ford Shelby Mustang Convertible.

4. 1971-72 Chevy shortbox pickup or Blazer.

5. 1970 Chevy Chevelle SS.

6. Early 50's bullet nose Studebaker 2-door in original or street rodded form.

7. 1958-62 Corvette.

I think the best bet for us is to finish restoring what we've already got.

[Guest BJM]

Yes, fun idea. I'll just try to think chronologically. (Jeff knows I'm a Peerless fan too)

1927 Peerless equiposed V8 Touring, long wheelbase

1935 Chrysler Airflow 128 inch wheelbase (Imperial 4 door)

1935 to 1936 Nash Ambassador 8 Streamlined Sedan

1937 Chrysler Airflow Imperial C17

1938 Cadillac Sixy Special

1938 Lincoln Zephyr Coupe'

1942 Buick Roadmaster 2 door Sedanette

1948 Cadillac 75 series Limousine* (*own)

1948 Chrysler New Yorker 2 door club coupe'

1954 Buick Roadmaster 2 door Convertible

1957 Cadillac Coupe deVille

1961 Buick Electra 2 door hardtop

1964 Oldsmobile Jetstar 1

1968 Buick Riviera* (*own)

1973 Corvette (454 4 speed convertible)

1975 era Porsche Carrera 911 RS

1987 Porsche 928

[1937hd45]

What is the matter with the rest of you readers? Total of 4 1/2 lists in four days. If you can't dream of a fanticy collection of 18 cars you need to leave and find another hobby.

[ex98thdrill]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Total of 4 1/2 lists in four days. If you can't dream of a fanticy collection of 18 cars you need to leave and find another hobby</div></div>My dad and I already have over 20 cars, so if we're considered the 1/2, we're already there. We don't need another hobby, we actually should be scaling back. As I speak right now, we have at least one vehicle representing every decade going back from the 1920's up to the 2000's.

[1937hd45]

Pat, If the same question was posted on a favorite Hot Rod website there would be 75 - 100 lists by now, I just don't understand the lack of interest here some times.

[vwnut]

mercer type 35r, auburn speedster, dolbe steam car, american undersling, stuz bearcat, vw hebmuller, olds curved dash, 1909 ford t, lincoln zeper v12 1939, packard 1906 mod s, pierce arrow silver arrow, tucker, stanley steamer, duesenberg j double cowl phaeton, vw swimwagen, cord 812 supercharged, Bugatti Type 35B, Ferrari 166 Spyder Corsa,

[Dandy Dave]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In response to:

Poster: 1937hd45

Subject: Re: Ultimate 18-Car Collection

What is the matter with the rest of you readers? Total of 4 1/2 lists in four days. If you can't dream of a fanticy collection of 18 cars you need to leave and find another hobby.

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I am just happy to have a few that I can take care of and preserve for future generations. 18 Drivers is way to many for a single working person to take care of unless the individual is independently wealthy and can hire everything done. After a while it gets to be more of a chore than fun. 18 cars means, in many cases, 18 Batterys, 18 cars to put gas in and drive them enough to keep it fresh, 18 to wash, wax and dust, 18 to store in a safe and dry place. 18 to service and keep in good repair.........The list goes on... I had a Dream collection of antique tractors and sold most of them off because it was hard to find the time to take care of all of them. It is more work than I want and makes me tired just thinking about it. Maybe a lot of others in the hobbie feel the same way? Especially if they have done some total frame off restorations and understand the time it takes.

As far as having fun and enjoying the hobbie goes, I have a lot of fun with the few that I have. The 15 Buick is my favorite in my collection and I drive it often in good weather. It is not overwhelming to take care of like a fleet of cars would be.

There is only one other "Dream Car" that I would want, And that is a 1911 Stoddard Dayton 48 HP Roadster that was owned by the Scripps Booth Family. This very car was at Hershey in 1974.

Dave!

[Paul Dobbin]

Here goes my 18 cars, from oldest to newest.

All except the 1934 Packard Dual Cowl Phaeton

are cars that I own or have owned and loved.

The Packard is the only "other man's lady"

that I lust for. Being a practical person,

I think these cars are an interesting but

personal representation of 20th Century

automobiles for people not in Jay Leno's

income bracket.

I could be happy owning this entire collection

all at the same time. Having the garage space

to keep them all is a great dream in itself.

P.S. I bet I'm the only one with a Subaru 360

on their list!

1915 Model T Touring

1931 Ford Model A Coupe (Resto-Rod)

1934 Ford V8 Phaeton

1934 Ford V8 Fordor

1934 Packard Dual Cowl Phaeton**

1935 Ford V8 Pickup

1935 Buick Sedan (Resto-Rod)

1948 Cadillac Convertible

1953 Cadillac Fleetwood

1955 Chevrolet Belair 2DHTP

1957 Ford Convertible

1957 Corvette

1957 Porsche Speedster

1958 Cadillac Biaritz Convertible

1959 Chevrolet El Camino

1965 Mustang Deluxe Convertible

1967 VW Convertible

1969 Subaru 360 Coupe

[West Peterson]

Bob

I haven't responded because I can't narrow it down to just 18.

Here are 33... (I like to think if you're going to dream, or wish, do it big )

1906 Packard S runabout

1907 Thomas Flyer "New York to Paris" winner

1908 American Underslung roadster

1912 Mercer Model 30C raceabout

1912 Rolls-Royce "Mystery"

1915 Simplex Crane roadster

1920 Locomobile 6-48 Farnham & Nelson dual cowl phaeton

1921 Marmon Model 34B Indy 500 pace car

1927 Duesenberg "X" speedster

1929 Bugatti Type 41 Royale Coupe Napoleon

1929 Ruxton roadster

1929 Mercedes-Benz SSK roadster

1929 Auburn 120 cabin speedster

1930 Packard boattail speedster

1930 Bentley Speed Six "Blue Train Special" coupe

1931 Cord L-29 "Phil Wright" speedster

1931 Duesenberg Weymann tapertail speedster

1932 Nash 1090 victoria coupe

1932 Bucciali TAV 12 Saoutchik sedan

1932 Reo Royale convertible coupe

1932 Packard 12 906 Dietrich coupe-roadster

1932 Cadillac 16 sport phaeton

1932 Marmon Sixteen Hayes victoria coupe

1932 Lincoln KB Brunn phaeton

1932 Buick 90 Murphy town car

1934 Packard 1108 LeBaron d.c. phaeton

1934 Riley MPH

1936 Mercedes-Benz Cabriolet A

1937 Cord S/C phaeton

1938 Alfa Romeo 8C2900B Spider lwb by Touring

1939 Bugatti Type 57SC Atalante

1940 Nash Special Cabriolet by de Sakhnoffsky

1941 Packard Darrin convertible victoria

[1937hd45]

car pics, Nice list had to look up the Model S Packard to see what it was. I agree it is a nice car, maybe I need to replace the 1912 exRod Blood Packard 30 with something on my list. Dave I'll bet I'm the only list member to have seen your Bulldozer collection, and it was very impressive. Pound for pound you may have had the Jay Leno collection beat.

[Guest BJM]

Interesting. There are some cars I would like to know more about. I think my list is flavoered but what I know. i am sure most people would put a Duesenberg on their lists, but I can't visualize myself owning and driving one - same for the classic era cars (Cords, Pierce Arrow, big Cadillacs, Marmon). All I have seen are in museums. My list is more practical.

[1937hd45]

Thanks West! I forgot to add a 1933 Riley IMP to my list, painted one years ago and really took a liking to it. If everyone took the time to read the history on most of the cars on these lists you'd have amassed a lot of automotive knowledge. Maybe I'll start another 18 car dream collection, dreams are still free.

[Guest Hinckley]

My top ten dream list has over one hundred cars on it but here goes.

Model T - post 1920

1916 Hudson Super Six

Studebaker Coupe Express

Chrysler Airflow

1929 Doble roadster

Auburn speedster

1955 Dodge p.u. with power dome V8

1932 Chevy - any body style

1932 Desoto

1949 - 1952 Hudson with Twin H

1931 Model A p.u.

1950 Nash Ambassador

1924 McFarlan roadster

1948 - 1953 Chevy p.u.

1953 Studebaker truck with V8 and overdrive

1958 Bonneville

1916 Baker electric

1958 Impala

[West Peterson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1937hd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I forgot to add a 1933 Riley IMP to my list, painted one years ago and really took a liking to it. </div></div>

Bob

If you like the IMP, you'd LOVE the MPH. Two more cylinders and a longer wheelbase and hood. Kind of the automotive version of the Gee-Bee, all hood, small cock-pit, bob-tail rearend. Admittedly, though, you'd have to have them side-by-side to really notice the difference. Unfortunately, in pictures, people would just think it's an MGTC. Actually, it's more like an AC or SS100 of 1935/36 (add those to your list -- and mine -- too).

[R W Burgess]

Boy, I'll bet that feels good when you whip the tail out and you're on the receiving end of the whip!

"Do it again DAD!!!!"

Wayne

[K8096]

1933 Stutz DV-32 Bearcat

1914 Stutz Bearcat

open bodied SJ Duesenberg

1934 Packard Twelve Dietrich conv. coupe

1930 - 1932 Cadillac V 16

Marmon Sixteen

L 29 Cord

1937 Cord conv. coupe

Auburn 12 speedster

Springfield Rolls Royce (either Piccadilly roadster or Ascot phaeton)

late teens/early 1920's Locomobile Sportif

Pierce Arrow Model 48

1953 Cadillac Eldorado

1937 Packard Twelve conv. coupe

1932 Lincoln KB Dietrich conv. coupe

Twelve cylinder Franklin

540K Mercedes roadster

Hispano Suiza twelve cylinder

[Ivan Saxton]

I'll give you a list of what you could get in early 1931, at prices as listed in the National Used Car Market Report

Red Book. Trying not to be extravagant, I have limited myself to only three cars that were above "Salvage" value.

Dorris ohv big 6cyl

Daniels V8

Lexington with an ohv Ansted 6 engine. (This was a moderate sized car; and the engine had about the highest output in bhp/litre among less expensive cars.)

!922 Lincoln

1924 Locomobile 48

1924 Marmon 34

1922 McFarlan

Mercer Series 5 L-head Raceabout

Packard Twin Six

Peerless V8

Pierce-Arrow T-head six (I would coose a 1920 38hp because I like 4 speed gear boxes)

1924 Roamer 4-75E with Rochester Duesenberg engine. One of these set an honest AAA stock car record at Daytona Beach in April 1921, certified stock, and not specially tuned. A mile in 34.25 seconds is 105mph, and it also covered 5 miles at 103.2

1924 Stevens Duryea

Stutz 4 cyl up to 1924, but it would have to be a Bearcat.

1922 A model Duesenberg. This is a car of reasonable size and running economy, with the world's best brakes at the time. The whole design is directly derived form successful racing experience, is light and strong, and as well made as any car of the era. If you had to choose the best car of the early 1920's, and you knew what the optoins were form personal experience, the A Duesenberg would have to be in the top bracket.

The last three, I get into the Money.

1925 Revere with a Monson engine cost $9, top dollar. The Monson engine was a derivation of the walking beam Duesenberg, with 1/8" larger bore, and very short vertical rockers and a high camshaft. (Rochester Duesenberg "walking beams are 14" long.

!928 Stutz BB 2 passenger Black Hawk speedster. $309

1928 Auburn 115 2 Passenger speedster. $308

Cunningham V8 would have to be included in the 18 if it was listed. Obviously people kept them; and it was not.

There are no non-US cars in the Red Book.

I hope you like that list, Bob

Regards, Ivan Saxton

[1937hd45]

Ivan, there is a Revere with a Duesenberg walking bean engine in the Leno collection, all apart and getting an in house restoration. I worked on a 1919 Cunningham V8 years ago, a fine original that was unfortunetly fully restored by the next owner. There was a nice Daniels V8 up in Vermont years ago, nice big car reminded me of Locomobile 48 styling in some ways.

[1937hd45]

Thanks West! I forgot how good those rear fenders looked on the Riley, and I'll upgrade to the MPH now that I know about the basic differance from the IMP. It will look great side by side with the Zagato bodied Alfa 1750.

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Bob, this has taken me a couple of days only because I kind of took a shot at a short list in the "Christmas wants" post & my day job has been keeping me busy. But, not too difficult as I routinely engage in this with some guys I used to work with. They are muscle car fans and have no clue what half this stuff is - great fun! I would hang on to the two cars I have and add 16:

1913-14 Stutz Bearcat

1929 Cord L29 cab or coupe, with Woodlights, please

1929 Duesenberg J Phaeton - LeBaron or LeGrande

1930 Ford Model A Custom - Buehrig recreation

(Since it is a wish list, make that the original~)

1930 Ford Model A two door Phaeton

1932 Ford Hot Rod (29 roadster on 32 rails, flattie)

1932 Ford 5 window, full fendered traditional hot rod

1933 Duesenberg J Derham Tourster

(Wish list, why not ask for two!)

1932-34 Packard Dietrich - any open, convt. sedan?

1935 Auburn Speedster

1936 Ford Woodie

1940-41 Packard Darrin

1941-48 Lincoln Continental

1956-57 Chevy Wagon

1956 Ford T-bird

1961-63 Lincoln

1964-66 Ford Mustang - plain jane coupe in white

If any of the Classics on this list (except the Lincoln) came with WWW I would ask for blackwalls, and send the bill to West...

[Ivan Saxton]

It is likely that Revere is the one that was for sale on prewarcar.com about a year ago. It almost certainly belonged to Roy Monson, which had a spare engine with it. I still have several letters from him somewhere. Roy said he could not recall any Reveres being sent to Australia, though he dispatched one to King Alfonso in Spain. (I had gone looking for remains of one near Canberra. One of the Canberra VCCA members told me the engine had been smashed with a hammer. I think his memory malfunctioned over the directions, because I never found a sign of anything like it.

Roy's car nearly came here a couple of decades ago. A dealer/restorer from near Sydney told me someone took him to Roy's closed museum near Hot Springs Arkansas, and pursuaded him to buy it. He put it in the car corral at Hershey with a mark-up, and someone bought it otherwise he would have shipped it home. Obviously he never drove it. And I expect that Mr Leno will be very impressed when he does. ( I have a photo of the chassis frame on which Mr Leno's V8 Hispano Suiza special is built, when Stuart and I brought home my first Mercer. It was originally a 5litre Barcelona Hispano.) The man who let the Revere slip tried to import a 540K Mercedes Benz on declared fractional value. The rotweillers from Customs laid a huge fine on him, and auctioned the car. They had found the sale documents in the glove box.

Regards, Ivan

[Guest edalfa]

Okay, here goes:

1911 Simplex

1926 Pierce Arrow-coupe

1927 Model T-touring car

1929 Blower Bentley

1941 Lincoln Continental

1942 Buick Roadmaster conv.-Black

1942 Desoto

1947 Ford Sportsman

1950 Cadillac 2 dr ht

1950 Nash Ambassador

1953 Nash Healey

1954 Studebaker "Lowey" coupe

1955 Oldsmobile Super 88

1958 Ford T-Bird-coupe

1960 Buick Invicta-2 dr ht-2 tone white over brown

1960 Chrysler 300

1965 Buick Wildcat Convertible-Yellow with a black top

1966 Buick Riviera GS

The Ford Sportsman is negotiable for the opportunity to slip an Alfa Romeo into the group. Never mind the fact that I could have added Lincolns all day!

Ed

[Clipper47]

OK here is my list;

1941 Packard Clipper

1942 Packard Clipper Six

1942 Packard Clipper Eight

1942 Packard Clipper 160

1942 Packard Clipper 180

1946 Packard Clipper Six

1946 Packard Clipper Eight

[Clipper47]

OK here is my list;

1941 Packard Clipper

1942 Packard Clipper Six

1942 Packard Clipper Eight

1942 Packard Clipper 160

1942 Packard Clipper 180

1946 Packard Clipper Six

1946 Packard Clipper Eight

1946 Packard Clipper Eight Deluxe

1946 Packard Clipper Super Eight

1946 Packard Custom Super Eight

1946 Packard Custom Super Eight Touring Limousine

1946 Packard Custom Super Eight Divison Limousine

1947 Packard Clipper Eight

1947 Packard Clipper Eight Deluxe

1947 Packard Clipper Super Eight

1947 Packard Custom Super Eight

1947 Packard Custom Super Eight Touring Limousine

1947 Packard Custom Super Eight Division Limousine

Well that is about all...Did I miss any? :-)

[jeff_a]

Dear Clipper47, BJM, and everyone else,

I think it's great to have all of you throw your opinions out there about your ideal car collections. Fifteen people have made suggestions. It would be great to have a website along those lines. Everyone would have a Virtual Garage with 18 spaces (plus a service bay and paint booth) with photos of their vehicles.

The reason I came up with 18 for the size of an Ultimate Car Collection is that it forces me to be selective and think a little about what cars are really important ( or beautiful, or fast, etc. ). The 17 cars and one truck I listed were chosen so I could cover both the "Three P's" and "A-C-D" triumvirates of car collecting. The Lincoln was just a beautiful car my Grandpa had from before the days when Ford bought the company.

Re: Packards

I noticed Clipper47 had a dozen Clippers. My Grandpa had a 1941 Clipper Airport Limousine with 8 doors. Have you ever heard of one?

Re: Subarus

When I was up in Circle, MT in '72, one of my colleagues at work* dated a woman who drove a Subaru 360...about the only car I ever saw that was smaller than my '62 AMC Metropolitan.

Re: Dave Corbin

Are you the same Dave Corbin who played football for the Blue Dragons in '71?

Re: The Three P's

These aren't Pacer, Pinto and Peugeot.

Re: Choices on my list of 18

If I made my list with more post WWII cars, I'd get a 1954 Metropolitan, a 1956 Chrysler New Yorker and a Type 101 Bugatti.

* we were truck drivers on a combine crew

[West Peterson]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeff_a</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Re: Packards

I noticed Clipper47 had a dozen Clippers. My Grandpa had a 1941 Clipper Airport Limousine with 8 doors. Have you ever heard of one?

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I think I recall seeing one on the cover-page of the Packard Club Bulletin that was in the beginning throws of being restored. That was a couple of years ago, but i don't recall exactly what year it was (1941-47).

[jeff_a]

1937hd45,

Nice 18-car collection. The 2nd vehicle on your list and the 1st on my list are both 3-wheelers, as the Type 1, Model A Peerless was a trike with a De Dion-Bouton 2 3/4 H.P. engine. It's so rare that, To The Best Of My Knowledge, none of the 15 built survive, and T.T.B.O.M.K., there aren't even any photographs that survive.

Isn't that 1908 Stearns 45-90 the one with the 800 cubic inch engine? Yikes! ---Jeff Brown, Peerless Motor Car Club member

[jeff_a]

Ivan,

It's always amazing to hear how many American cars were exported to Australia and other countries in the 20's and 30's...and your list from the Red Book bears that out. I suppose if Australian ships were going to the States with beef, wool and ore, they had to come back with something.

I read an article from back in the 1970's about some Americans who went over to Australia with their antique cars and motorcycles for a tour. One of them had a brass-era car which was supposed to be the only survivor of its type in the world. While on the tour, it broke down in a rural area, but right in front of a farm house. The owner of the farm (maybe you'd call it a station) came out to see what was wrong with the one car disabled. It had a broken part for which the driver didn't have a spare. The farmer went back to his garage and reappeared with the correct part, and they were able to fix the unique auto. Wish I could remember what make of car it was. It may have been a Horseless Carriage Gazette from the 60's or 70's. Sound possible to you? Regards, Jeff Brown

P.S.: Tell me if you hear any more about the 1926 Peerless Boattail Coupe in Australia we were discussing a few months ago!

[Steve_Mack_CT]

Jeff, you could add a level of interest in your proposed website by giving the "players" "virtual money" - and building your 18 (max) car collection from there. It would be interesting to take an approximate value from each car mentioned in the above collections to see what the average comes out to be. Some, but not many inexpensive cars were listed. Kind of like fantasy football or "the sims" which I believe is a very involved virtual game that is played online. Could cars then be sold or traded between players - at profits or losses? Could cars not already in play be "bought" using current value documentation to justify the purchase price? How do you win?? Could be fun but this project would be for someone with a lot more time than I have to be honest - just fun to think about.

[jeff_a]

Steve,

Sounds like a great idea.

That's why I have the mechanic's bay in this virtual garage, plus a paint booth. You could change colors to see how they look, plus have your restoration staff do maintenance, bodywork, etc. If you had a kid, he might even learn something about relative maintenance needed on different vehicles. "Dad, why is the mechanic always tearing apart the 1928 SSK Roadster and the 1967 Jaguar, but the 1907 Rolls-Royce just needs oil, grease and leather-dressing?".

I think I'll "sell off" the six post-war cars on my list, which should net me at least $300,000. Then I can replace them with some cheaper, but more valuable cars, if you get my drift. I think I'll look into getting a 1928 Gardner Straight-Eight, a 1931 Peerless Standard Eight, a 1926 Elcar, a 1910 Buick 17-S Raceabout, a 1931 Stutz DV-32 and a 1925 Peerless Model 8-67 Berline Limousine. Okay, the Stutz was a little overboard...but this is a Virtual garage. --------Jeff

[Guest ChrisSummers]

1) Norwalk Underslung Six (only successful WV-built car--one still in existence)

2) Jordan Playboy

3) Duesenberg J

4) Duesenberg SJ

5) Packard 734 of any type

6) Ferrari 365 California Spyder

7) Packard 1108 LeBaron Sport Phaeton

8) Delahaye

9) Pierce-Arrow Silver Arrow

10) Cartercar (love that friction-drive transmission)

11) Cord 812 Supercharged Custom Berline

12) Maybach Zeppelin

13) MG Airline Coupe

14) Amphicar

15) Marmon Sixteen

16) Cadillac V-16 (preferably 1934-37)

17) Lincoln KB Murphy Sport Phaeton

18) Studebaker Avanti R-2