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Derek minus 62 years is pretty close to Mark's new Model F.

I didn't make it to either which is why I wasn't certain and was too lazy to look it up.

Sorry - 2004 or 2005. 2006 was Rochester, MN.

The meet was in NY in 2005 or 2006, Danvers, MASS in 2011 and Allentown in 2015. Since 2003, the closest it has been to us is almost 550 miles. It can't be in everyone's back yard every year. If judging is critical, considering attending the regional meet for your region. There are typically very experienced BCA judges at these events and, being the local region, it won't be too terribly far away.

Great looking car HuntzNSam!

How'd you get those pots to stay on the trailer fender as you brought it home? Or was it a local car that you didn't have to drive on high speed routes to get it home?LOL...local '54 that isn't already at Buick Gardens...ROFLMAO.

That looks a lot like an ornament from the thirties...it seems to me Plymouth. That would be a shame. The tri-shield has been around longer than me and is identified with Buick so strongly. Brand recognition is important.

Once the judging is done it is final. Otherwise, what is to stop people from continually going after the judging chair year-round? Of course there could also be unscrupulous members who would go home, fix an issue, and then complain. Can of worms opened and virtually impossible to get the top back on.

Well, considering She Who Must Be Obeyed finds the Enclave bulky, and I don't particularly care for the "squashed" look of the Encore, I welcome an addition to the product lineup between the two. Assembly location is less of a concern to me as is its "Buick-ness". I recently drove a 2015 Chev Spark with 6000 km on it as a service loaner and it was loud in the cabin and you needed to wait for the delay from the go pedal to the go. Buick is a much quieter car.

Thanks Kevin. It looks like we will be doing a bit of self-directed stuff this time around as five people on a tour adds up to a pretty penny.

Book your room Lamar...or else Looking forward to seeing you and other Buick friends again in PA.

Sweet! Somehow it all looks vaguely familiar too, like I've been there before or something

We had a few flakes fall the other day and some more possible this week. It's just a matter of time here. I did have a Buickful day driving the Rainier to the country place to complete the winter prep on the older Buicks. Sigh. I also took the mower off the tractor and put the blower on.

Ellie - 1966 Wildcat. The tale can be found in the link in my signature. Just realized it's been 22 years.

I have a '56 Special four door sedan in a similar colour scheme. Your car is much nicer.

The first thing that occurs to me is whether we would need a nice medallion. To my mind, a nice certificate would suffice...up here where we get winter, I have a lot of such memorabilia in a Buick basement. Granted, some sort of grill badge displayed on the car lets others know it is at least 100 years old. If cost is an issue, at each National, we have a registration list and the registrar has a printer - nice certificate paper and a few moments and it's done. My preference, for the 2-5 cars in this area that typically attend a National, that their current stewards be recognized at the banquet. We spend a pile of time recognizing others for a variety of things...perhaps this could replace that. Regarding the PWD generally, perhaps some of the issue is that the owners may tend to be older and less computer literate / Internet savvy. If that is the case, an electronic newsletter may not be the best way to reach them. I know I struggled to keep up with the content back in the day and I wanted to read that...just a bit of an overload and various priorities pulling me in different directions. Some time ago, an analysis was done on the roster (seems to me it may have been Barney Eaton, but not certain). If memory serves, 1938 and 1941 were the years with the highest number of BCA registered cars in the roster - both are pre-war. In the interests of the club, while we are democratic in nature, what is right isn't necessarily about the majority. For instance, most of the Divisions would cover considerably less than a majority of the membership yet approving them under the BCA umbrella is generally the right thing to do.. I think the idea of recognizing 100 year old Buicks is a good idea and I hope we are able to determine a reasonable way of making that happen.

Grin. Most folks usually put them on a wall. We haven't defined our path yet. It's far enough that we may be inclined to take the most expedient route, but it would be nice to slow down a bit and see things / people. I'll keep your suggestion in mind.

Or, to quote Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"

Whew! I just got through this thread start to finish today. Love it. The photo in post #70 in particular took me back a few years when I attempted to make a deal on a '53 Roadmaster just outside of Saskatoon. There's a thread here on that story here somewhere. In the end, we wanted to buy it, but his price was 2-3 times what I thought was fair market value for a car needing a complete restoration. Of course, he was basing his price on the market value of a restored car. He'd also made some claims about the car being Canadian that told me he didn't know as much about 1953 Buicks as he thought he did. Now that there's a 1953 available again, I can't help but dream. I also can't help but wonder what became of that Roadmaster since so few were produced and Saskatoon is a lot closer than California. Oh well, the big shop is full of other Buicks (a done Lund) and our money isn't particularly liquid right now. Mike, it's been fun living the past few years of your Buick woodie live vicariously through this thread.

-- What change(s) have been made to your vehicle which have disqualified it from being in the Driven Class? Please be specific.​ Technically, the wheels on the '76 pace car disqualify it. However, the current driven judging chair in South Bend disagreed with the rigour of the rule enough to bend it and award the car a driven award. -- How far from the 400 Point Judging "correctness" should what's allowed in the Driven Class be? If we have a "Modified Division Driven Class", then a line needs to be drawn. Otherwise, I'd like to see it essentially a Buick - that is, Buick body Buick engine...debate on correct style of engine aside -- How "correct" should a Driven Class vehicle be, with respect to the original build specs of the vehicle? I'm less concerned about this personally, but I believe it should identifiably be a Buick and, most importantly, driven. -- Should there be TWO levels of Driven Class? One for the mostly-correct-for-model year vehicles and ONE for those with some mechanical upgrades/enhancements made for more reliable/comfortable/safe travel cross-country? Please be specific as to where you feel "the line" should be drawn between these two levels. I'm not sure this makes sense...its a simple award and we probably don't want to over-complicate it. Safety / comfort / reliability changes shouldn't impact the qualification. -- IF the Driven Class would allow your altered vehicle, as is, would you be more motivated to drive your vehicle to the BCA National Meet and enter it in the Driven Class (2016 and vehicles otherwise qualified for the Modified Class, excepted)? N/A -- Are you a current/past participant in the Driven Class? If "YES", how many BCA National Meets. If "NO", please elaborate. ​ 2006 Rochester - 1962 Special, 1966 Wildcat 2010 Ames 1975 Electra 2013 South Bend - 1976 Century PCR, 1988 Reatta (driven by 17 year old daughter licensed for under 3 months at the time) A car brought to a meet doesn't necessarily imply its a "trailer queen". We've done it for comfort, convenience, or economics. The highest any of my cars have placed is silver in BCA judging. That doesn't imply we don't drive them generally. We also haven't necessarily had the time to be able to take our time driving to and from the meets as well. Different strokes for different folks and we need to be tolerant of other views within the club.

Thanks Dave. My car is a 1940 paint code. Code 551 - Silver French Gray over Monterey Blue - http://images.tcpglobal.com/chips/1940-Buick-pg02.jpg Back in the day it would seem you could order them that way as this is on the data plate.

The '59 Division has been putting out calendars for a number of years. Good idea, but with a distributed club, cost of shipping could make it less attractive for a smaller ticket item. Now, if they are prepared in time for the annual National meet (or celebration) then a few could sell there and perhaps more efficient shipping using the local chapters as distributors (with a small cut perhaps?) could work better. That said, I don't think it makes sense to step on the toes of the '59 Division. Otherwise, I really like the idea. Larry, I may get a mailing tube and send you one of mine As for the wheels, I spent about $5000 this summer for three sets of the specially widened wheels that were used on the '75 & '76 Century Pace Car replicas. They happened to come with cars attached. I will be spending more to get the correct-equivalent tires put on in the spring and then I'll be much happier with Spirit. Unfortunately the Indy tires aren't made in the correct size any more.

Love it. Dave, what's the paint scheme on you 46SSE? My 41SE is similar but a paler blue (yours appears blue to me). Of course, mine was repainted so I'm not sure how accurate it is.

Wouldn't the "wagon train" have to be out west or on the prairies, for historical perspective I have something that would be happy to participate in that. For any of you who have met my '76 pace car, you'll know a prior owner put Centerline wheels on. Under the current rules, that technically disqualifies the car from a Driven award. However, the Modified folks don't want to give their Driven award to a car with lith little more than different wheels. Happily, the current chair of driven class judging is not as particular about those rules, especially when you drive 1000 miles to the meet.

It's safer to get it later...I tend not to spend as much ;-) I'm not online as much as I used to be so forget about the electronic version.