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#1 Mark Shaw

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:35 AM

These are basically emails I sent to my Buick buddies....

Subject: Making progress on my 12 Buick


(Sunday Sept 4th) The boss said I could start on the 1912 Buick model 34 roadster before I finish the 15 speedster because it will be a century old next year & we want to have it on the road for it's 100th birthday.

Last weekend, I worked on geting the windshield figured out. It appeared to be a Model T Ford windshield, so I took it to one of my Ford buddies and learned that although it was similar, it was not Ford. He did give me the keeper clips for the glass and gave me a Ford parts catalog with some good drawings to help me find what I need. Then one of my Buick buddies brought over a local body & fender man to look at the lower running board areas that are rusted out on all four fenders. He plans to pick up the car near the end of the month to start working on them. I removed the fenders so maybe he won't have to take the whole car.

Today, I dropped the pan (actually the lower engine case) to clean and lube the crank and camshaft before turning over the engine. This took all morning because the lower case involves removing bolts from the timing gear cover, removing the oil pump tubes, and many (hard to get at) cotter keyed nuts from under the car. It took almost all afternoon to put it back together too.... I refilled the crankcase and the engine is now ready for a trial start.
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: Making progress on my 12 Buick


Well gang, it runs good!

I got it running this morning before 10 AM and will work on refreshing the tranny & rear end lube next.

I may even go for a ride this afternoon!
Mark

OK, now for the afternoon update...

I lubed the chassis, added some tranny lube, & checked the rear end and it was OK.

I started it again and backed it out the driveway into the street.

Reverse and first work good, but the clutch was so grabby I decided to pull it back into the shop and treat the clutch.

I had to go to four places to get some neatsfoot oil for the leather clutch, but when I looked closer at the clutch, I decided it needs replacement.

I will pull the clutch after I remove the body and send it to Bob Knaak for new leather.


Mark

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#2 jscheib

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:50 AM

Good progress. You should bring it to NCnext year for a proper birthday.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:39 AM

It sounds like someone is having altogether too much fun. Congrats Mark.
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:09 AM

That's awesome! I love it!
Cheers
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#5 Mark Shaw

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:16 AM

John,
Well, it's eleven days travel time over 5576 miles pulling a loaded trailer at about 12 mpg with gasoline over $3.70 per gallon = $1720.00, plus hotels for nine nights would bring it over $3000.00. Since I don't have my cars judged, I would only bring it for display and drive it on the PWD AfterTour. No, I don't think I will be bringing it.

I would just like to see the BCA move the meets East, West, North, & South to give everyone a chance to bring a car. Two in a row on the East coast may make me stay home next time. South Bend is over 4400 miles round trip for me too.
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 01:58 PM

May it bring you many happy and trouble free miles as you glide along the highways and byways on tour! Good start on a nice early Buick. :cool: Dandy Dave!
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 01:10 AM

Greetings Mark,

Glad to hear it's alive and well. Colorado is closer than Indiana (hint, hint, hint).

Best Regards,
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 02:28 PM

Hi Mark. Nice to see it is making progress. I will have to get some pictures of my Grand Fathers 1912 model 42 or it might be a 48. He use to do the Red Rock tours in it all the time.
He is 94 now and keeps his driving around town in a Lincoln town car.
Some of you might know him. Bob Hopkins.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 07:37 PM

Yes, I believe I have met Bob.... but I don't remember when or where...

Here are a couple more photos of the windshield I got back together last night.

I would like to have it angled back as in the photos, but I might have bugs hit my forehead if I do it this way.

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1913 Buick Model 31 Touring
1915 Buick Model C-25 "Speedster"
1924 Buick Model 45 "Roadster Truck"
1929 Buick Model 29-27 Sedan (Now my son's car)
1931 Buick Model 57 Sedan
1938 Buick Model 48 Sedan

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 11:54 AM

Yes, I believe I have met Bob.... but I don't remember when or where...

Here are a couple more photos of the windshield I got back together last night.

I would like to have it angled back as in the photos, but I might have bugs hit my forehead if I do it this way.


Do anything, as long as the bugs don't get stuck in your teeth when you smile. ;) Dandy Dave!
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 12:27 PM

I want one :) Just great!

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 02:00 PM

Great news Mark, and a good boss, I have one of those too. ( boss, not a 1912 Buick ) COOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:34 PM

Mark ...quote" I will pull the clutch after I remove the body and send it to Bob Knaak for new leather."

Can you send me this contact info...I had my last clutch done in Kevlar and was not happy with the final results.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 07:08 PM

Hi Mark. Thought you might enjoy this. This is my Grand Fathers 1912 model 43.
Car of the Week: 1912 Buick Model 43 | Old Cars Weekly He has been on a lot of the old Red Rock tours last one he went on with this Buick was up in Montana and covered 2300 miles.

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 02:44 AM

Thanks for the link! Wow! A very nice touring car....& great article. I would love to get some photos of the windshield support where it mounts next to the radiator. I have to fabricate the support and mounting hardware for my little 12 Buick.

Tom,
You can email Bob Knaak here: bobknaak@hotmail.com
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 03:43 AM

Mark,
Looks like you are having too much fun.
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:27 PM

Larry,
You can never have too much fun with these old cars...

Maybe when I can when I retire though....
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1913 Buick Model 31 Touring
1915 Buick Model C-25 "Speedster"
1924 Buick Model 45 "Roadster Truck"
1929 Buick Model 29-27 Sedan (Now my son's car)
1931 Buick Model 57 Sedan
1938 Buick Model 48 Sedan

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:20 AM

Mark,
I have both a 1912 Model 35 (touring) and a Model 36 Roadster very similar to yours. Here's a pic of the fire wall and the windshield brackets. Hope this helps. Let me know if you need pics or dimensions of anything. Posted Image
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 02:38 PM

Newcomer,
Thanks, I already have that part. But I need to fabricate the support rod that mounts to the windshield from the center hinge to the frame near the radiator. My windshield is not brass, but it should mount the same way. I need a photo of where this rod mounts to the frame.
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1913 Buick Model 31 Touring
1915 Buick Model C-25 "Speedster"
1924 Buick Model 45 "Roadster Truck"
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1931 Buick Model 57 Sedan
1938 Buick Model 48 Sedan

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:24 PM

Here's a link to my PhotoBucket album, the first 4 photos should help. I can't vouch for the rod's originality, but it's all I have. It's a two piece affair, with at least the bottom part being iron cover by a brass tube rather than just a brass tube alone. Over the years the iron has expanded and split the brass tube. One photo shows the joint nut. The frame connection seems to be a cast or forged "eye" welded to an iron or steel rod.(much like that found in brake linkage) The window connection is simply the hollow brass tube that was flattened and a hole drill through it. http://photobucket.com/Buick36

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Edited by TheNewcomer, 10 September 2011 - 04:27 PM.
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