Guest DaveCorbin Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 To: All Since there is no item in the index devoted specifically to McLaughlins, I thought I'd start one here on Pre-war Buicks. Post here any questions, pics, info on McLaughlin that you care to. 1908 thru 1942 only, please. Also, remember it's GM of Canada after 1922.Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 For information of all: Attached is a listing of the production reported for Buicks only by GM of Canada and it's predecessor, The McLaughlin Motor Car Co. Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 McLaughlin-GM of Canada Production Accumulated totals Car Make Name Buick Year 1908 154 1541909 423 5771910 847 14241911 962 23861912 967 33531913 881 42341914 1098 53321915 1012 63441916 2859 92031917 3418 126211918 6317 189381919 6654 255921920 6499 320911921 4100 361911922 15690 518811923 17255 691361924 10684 798201925 11464 912841926 12344 1036281927 14042 1176701928 10986 1286561929 7131 1357871930 4603 1403901931 3582 1439721932 2026 1459981933 2382 1483801934 4091 1524711935 3272 1557431936 4722 1604651937 6880 1673451938 5081 1724261939 4673 1770991940 4477 1815761941 3098 1846741942 211 1848851943 0 1848851944 0 1848851945 0 1848851946 0 1848851947 0 1848851948 0 1848851949 0 1848851950 0 184885Totals 184885 1908-1950 Transcription by David F. Corbin, Note: Figures shown are MY 1908-1950, BCA #2756 1943-1950 shown for info only. Original Source Document by GM of Canada. Production Figures 1967-1979 per Page 407 of "The Buick", Terry Dunham & Larry Gustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 For information of all: I have managed after some considerable work to construct a mathematical model of how McLaughlin assigned their plate numbers for the years 1908 to 1935. More numbers from McLaughlin cars would be useful. If you've got a 1908 thru 1935 McLaughlin, please post your numbers or ask a "What year is this?" question.Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dave, If Pat Nash has not already contacted you, please let me know. I have already sent him your email address to send his engine number. He is trying to ID his Mc Laughlin. It has no frame number and he thinks that it is an 11 or 12 roadster with the 201 cu in engine. Leigh Schubert in BC Canada also has a 1912 model 29 Mc Laughlin. I also sent him your email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dave,I may have sent this to you in a past e-mail / PM, but I don't recall. My 29-51 has a S/N of 164726 and the engine number is 2419192.Actually, it would be great if you could estimate date of manufacture...Bill McLaughlin and I have been scratching our heads as some of the features are of early '29s and some features are that of late '29s. I suppose it is possible a few of the one kind of feature could have been replacement parts (like rad cap).Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Derek:The predictor model indicates that McLaughlin plate numbers started at 158,001 for 1929 and ran thru 165132 that was actually built, with a bunch of numbers unused at the end of that year. Based on the predictor model, your car appears to be a very late 1929, only about 400 numbers from the end.Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Derek: The engine number you give of 2,419,192 is about midway thru the last batch of 1929 Model 50 engines built. Engine numbers started at 2,405,444 and ran to 2,437,870. By the time it got shipped to Canada, it would be very late in the model year. Based on this, it certainly looks like a "numbers match" situation. Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Thank you very much Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Dear Osirius: As noted on my other post, see above. Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 29-51 has a S/N of 164726 and the engine number is 2419192. </div></div> 1929 Series 116 Standard Six: Oshawa serial numbers ran # 152001 to 167064,Engine numbers # 2225369 to 2403729 1929 Series 121 and 129 Master Six: Oshawa serial numbers ran # 162001 to 165066, Engine numbers # 2240336 to 2431607 (US # 2225361 to 2439592). The 20-51 would be a Series 129. Evidently there was no Regina production but there was in 1930. Production began July 1928. Data from Canadian Automotive Data Handbook, 1937 and 1939.Just for fun:1928: Series 115 Standard Six # 135001 - 147935Series 120 and 128 Master Six: # 138001 - 143290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron voice Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 have just aquired 1924 model 54 chas no 89137 engine no 1145723 it is a right hand drive 2 door sports any info anyone has would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnetkid Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dave, my 1925-45A McLaughlin Buick has serial # 94805 (I am fairly sure the first number is a 9 although it could be a 0. the engine # is 0016641. The 1925-45A model was originally fitted with the fixed "California top" with the in floor exhaust heater. I changed the top to a folding one which would make it the same as a 25-45 and removed the exhaust heater for safety reasons as it was in poor shape and would have been hard to reproduce or find a good original. Leon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Ron, is your car by any lucky chance an original GM Limited car? I have data colected from many years of research of old registrations. The nearest British McL I have is:Rego NM 4496 BUICK CAR # 89087 ENGINE # 1148013 registered 24/March/1924.Southampton-registered CR 9161 was a BUICK MAJESTIC TOURING 27.3 H.P. # 89839 ENGINE # 1171579 10/July/1924 and was used by the then Prince of Wales with others when the Prince opened a Dock in Southampton. The other identical car, CR 9162 was it is believed given to him and became the future King Edward VIII's first McLaughlin-Buick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 1924 McL-Buick serials from British data:1924 MODEL 18.2 H.P. BUICK 4 [MASTER FOUR] QUOTED SERIALS RAN TO # 78150 HOWEVER THIS SEEMS TO BE WRONG: RAN FROM # 78150 TO # 82860? ENGINE SERIALS RAN # 1060000 TO # 1214050? 1924 McLAUGHLIN-BUICK MASTER 6 S.W.B. 120” W.B. MODELS: SERIALS RAN # 87122 TO # 95300? ENGINE SERIALS # 1087630 TO # 1216200 [FLINT] AND CHANGE OVER AT AROUND SERIAL # 91200 TO: ENGINE SERIALS # 0013000 TO # 0017350 [WALKERVILLE?] 1924 McLAUGHLIN-BUICK MASTER 6 L.W.B. 128” W.B. MODELS: SERIALS RAN #87386 AND UP TO # 95300 ENGINE SERIALS # 1087630 TO # 1216200 [FLINT] AND CHANGE OVER AT AROUND SERIAL # 91200 TO: ENGINE SERIALS # 0013000 TO # 0017350 [WALKERVILLE?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 1925 LIGHT SIX [sPECIAL SIX] 25-X25 21.6 H.P. FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1239259 AND UP UNDER LEFT FRONT FENDER ON FRAME SIDE MEMBER KNOWN SERIALS: #130499 ENGINE # 1352098 TO #1388728 ENGINE #1414008 ENGINE # 1264701 AND UP OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM #84700: PLATE ON DASH KNOWN SERIALS: # 86804 ENGINE # 1313706 # 85565 ENGINE # 1264988 ENGINE # 1264701 AND UP MODEL MASTER SIX 25-X54 27.3 H.P. 6-CYLINDER FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1249865 AND UP OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM # 93900 AND UP ENGINE # 1439500 AND UP MODEL MASTER SIX 25-X50L 27.3 H.P. 6-CYLINDER 128” WHEELBASE FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1251265 AND UP OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM #93900 KNOWN SERIALS: #95103 TO # 106037 ENGINE # 1439500 AND UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron voice Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 oracaluk the only information i have is from log book reg no kk8775 type/model 2454 chassis no ch89137 engine no 1145723 26.33 h.p. green sports is there any other no you need and where would i find them 1will try and post pic,s thanks ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron voice Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 hopefully pics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 That's a great looking car Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 That is an extremely rare car...registered in Kent in Feb/March 1924? Possibly supplied by Rootes Limited of Maidstone, owned by the Rootes brothers of Hillman/Humber/Commer/Karrier fame.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron voice Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks for that info david any ideas on where to locate a set of end shells/poss a head (may be beyond repair ) and a gasket set not inc the head gasket ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OracleUK Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Try New Zealand (and Australia?)! There are a few Down Under that I know of and the Kiwis seem to have plenty of engines to choose from in rhd form of course! I used to be amazed at how some owners had numerous Chevy engines .... otherwise it may need a contact to the McLaughlin Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 For info of all on this thread: I have seen McLaughlin info where the engine info is VERY confusing. This is because McLaughlin (GM of Canada) started building Buick engines at Walkerville, probably in late 1921 or early 1922. However, and this is what causes the confusion, McLaughlin switched back and forth between Walkerville engines and engines from Buick. It seems to depend on if Walkerville was at full capacity or not. If the car in question gets a Walkerville engine, it's one series of engine numbers. If the car in question gets a Flint engine, it's in the Buick number series. The engines are, so far as I can find, identical in design, which makes it even more confusing!! Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Thriller Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 On a side note, there is a homecoming next August (2008) for the centennial of McLaughlin in Oshawa. We haven't made plans for certain yet, but it would be nice to attend. I might even bring a Canadian Buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Buicks Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Dave,Can you tell if this s/n engine came from a 38 McLaughlin. The number is 3292378, it is a 248 cidThanks,Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Dear Glenn: I can tell you that the serial number you give is for an engine made at Flint. Where it went from there is generally impossible to tell, except if it went into a USA Buick, it would have the prefix 4 (for a Special) stamped ahead of the engine serial number. Lacking that, it could be from a McLaughlin, but it could also be an engine furnished to an ambulance or bus builder or for service, as they didn't get prefixed either. I don't know if this answers your question, but it's the best I can do. Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chstickl Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Hi, I just bought a 1937 McLaughlin Roadmaster 80c Convertible in Canada and brought it to Germany. To get it registered here, I would need some documentation on technical data (dimensions, weights, engine, tires, max speed, etc.). Is there a source that I can access or is there anyone who can send me a file with the data. Your help is much appreciated.Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1934 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 attached is a chart I started on soem time ago about Mclaughlins it needs lots more work but perhaps others may like to add there knowledge to the mix and eventually we will all have a completed chart. Please keep me in the loop if you ad information to the spreadsheet... my expertise in on the 1919 light 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge1934 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I don`t see that the file got attached... if anyone is interested drop me a note and I`ll email it to youThanksDon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I don`t see that the file got attached....To add images / files on the bottom of the screen1) Click on 'Go Advanced'2) On the to row of your reply box you will see a paper clip. Click on it or on “attach files manage attachments" down the screen-.3) The 'Manage Attachments' window will appear.4) Click on the 'Browse' button for that window.5) A browse dialog will appear. Browse to the location of the file on your computer.6) Click on the file 7) From the 'Manage Attachments' window click on 'Upload'.8) Close the 'Manage Attachments' window.9) Submit your reply when the message text is completeBe sure to check on the upload screen they are attached by scrolling downThere is a file size limit. Medium or large files will not upload. Have also read there is a limit of 2000 pixels when posted as an attachment You can also add images to a gallery. Check your User CP (Control Panel)For graphics software to resize images (and much more) try IrfanView - Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide. Free to download with many features. Easy to use. Edited December 11, 2009 by 1939_buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Don,Spreadsheets may not be allowable file types, so it may not attach.I'd like to see your work - you can send me an e-mail by clicking through "Thriller". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donlock Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 My McLaughlin number is 152304 Don Gower 2926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCargar Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Dave attached is a picture of my '26 McLaughlin Buick Model 26-20 data plate. Wayne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 4 hours ago, McCargar said: Dave attached is a picture of my '26 McLaughlin Buick Model 26-20 data plate. Wayne Unfortunately Dave Corbin passed away on August 25 2012. A sad loss to pre war Buick people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I hope someone has picked up his information and is maintaining it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I have what Dave assembled for McLaughlins, but it isn’t much aside from numbers produced for a given year - the original material did not break down production into specific models. So I can provide total numbers of McLaughlin production by year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 7:16 AM, Spinneyhill said: I hope someone has picked up his information and is maintaining it! My understanding is "No" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 7:37 PM, 1939_Buick said: My understanding is "No" It is still around, but there is discussion on where to place the information to the betterment of all and not for a person or organization to make a profit from Dave's work. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Larry Schramm said: It is still around, but there is discussion on where to place the information to the betterment of all and not for a person or organization to make a profit from Dave's work. Amen to that. Sharing and helping is at the heart of this hobby. Dave helped scores of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCabe Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Not intending to crash this thread, but I'm looking for serial number and model information on 1916 and 1917 McLaughlin Buicks. A friend has recently purchased what is believed to be a 1916 touring car with a six cylinder engine. He's telling me that the ownership for the car identifies it as a 1917. I have yet to see the car but hope to some time this week. I'd like to be able to help him identify his car properly. Thanks, Kevin McCabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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