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Since there is no item in the index devoted specifically to McLaughlins, I thought I'd start one here on Pre-war Buicks. Post here any questions, pics, info on McLaughlin that you care to. 1908 thru 1942 only, please. Also, remember it's GM of Canada after 1922.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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Attached is a listing of the production reported for Buicks only by GM of Canada and it's predecessor, The McLaughlin Motor Car Co.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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McLaughlin-GM of Canada Production

Accumulated totals

Car Make Name Buick

Year

1908 154 154

1909 423 577

1910 847 1424

1911 962 2386

1912 967 3353

1913 881 4234

1914 1098 5332

1915 1012 6344

1916 2859 9203

1917 3418 12621

1918 6317 18938

1919 6654 25592

1920 6499 32091

1921 4100 36191

1922 15690 51881

1923 17255 69136

1924 10684 79820

1925 11464 91284

1926 12344 103628

1927 14042 117670

1928 10986 128656

1929 7131 135787

1930 4603 140390

1931 3582 143972

1932 2026 145998

1933 2382 148380

1934 4091 152471

1935 3272 155743

1936 4722 160465

1937 6880 167345

1938 5081 172426

1939 4673 177099

1940 4477 181576

1941 3098 184674

1942 211 184885

1943 0 184885

1944 0 184885

1945 0 184885

1946 0 184885

1947 0 184885

1948 0 184885

1949 0 184885

1950 0 184885

Totals 184885

1908-1950

Transcription by David F. Corbin, Note: Figures shown are MY 1908-1950,

BCA #2756 1943-1950 shown for info only.

Original Source Document by GM of Canada.

Production Figures 1967-1979 per Page 407 of "The Buick",

Terry Dunham & Larry Gustin

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I have managed after some considerable work to construct a mathematical model of how McLaughlin assigned their plate numbers for the years 1908 to 1935. More numbers from McLaughlin cars would be useful. If you've got a 1908 thru 1935 McLaughlin, please post your numbers or ask a "What year is this?" question.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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Dave,

If Pat Nash has not already contacted you, please let me know. I have already sent him your email address to send his engine number. He is trying to ID his Mc Laughlin. It has no frame number and he thinks that it is an 11 or 12 roadster with the 201 cu in engine.

Leigh Schubert in BC Canada also has a 1912 model 29 Mc Laughlin. I also sent him your email address.

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Dave,

I may have sent this to you in a past e-mail / PM, but I don't recall. My 29-51 has a S/N of 164726 and the engine number is 2419192.

Actually, it would be great if you could estimate date of manufacture...Bill McLaughlin and I have been scratching our heads as some of the features are of early '29s and some features are that of late '29s. I suppose it is possible a few of the one kind of feature could have been replacement parts (like rad cap).

Thanks.

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Dear Derek:

The predictor model indicates that McLaughlin plate numbers started at 158,001 for 1929 and ran thru 165132 that was actually built, with a bunch of numbers unused at the end of that year. Based on the predictor model, your car appears to be a very late 1929, only about 400 numbers from the end.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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Dear Derek:

The engine number you give of 2,419,192 is about midway thru the last batch of 1929 Model 50 engines built. Engine numbers started at 2,405,444 and ran to 2,437,870. By the time it got shipped to Canada, it would be very late in the model year. Based on this, it certainly looks like a "numbers match" situation.

Regards, Dave Corbin

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My 29-51 has a S/N of 164726 and the engine number is 2419192.

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1929 Series 116 Standard Six: Oshawa serial numbers ran # 152001 to 167064,Engine numbers # 2225369 to 2403729

1929 Series 121 and 129 Master Six: Oshawa serial numbers ran # 162001 to 165066, Engine numbers # 2240336 to 2431607 (US # 2225361 to 2439592). The 20-51 would be a Series 129. Evidently there was no Regina production but there was in 1930. Production began July 1928. Data from Canadian Automotive Data Handbook, 1937 and 1939.

Just for fun:

1928: Series 115 Standard Six # 135001 - 147935

Series 120 and 128 Master Six: # 138001 - 143290

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have just aquired 1924 model 54 chas no 89137 engine no 1145723

it is a right hand drive 2 door sports any info anyone has would be great

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Dave, my 1925-45A McLaughlin Buick has serial # 94805 (I am fairly sure the first number is a 9 although it could be a 0. the engine # is 0016641. The 1925-45A model was originally fitted with the fixed "California top" with the in floor exhaust heater. I changed the top to a folding one which would make it the same as a 25-45 and removed the exhaust heater for safety reasons as it was in poor shape and would have been hard to reproduce or find a good original. Leon

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Ron, is your car by any lucky chance an original GM Limited car? I have data colected from many years of research of old registrations. The nearest British McL I have is:

Rego NM 4496 BUICK CAR # 89087 ENGINE # 1148013 registered 24/March/1924.

Southampton-registered CR 9161 was a BUICK MAJESTIC TOURING 27.3 H.P. # 89839 ENGINE # 1171579 10/July/1924 and was used by the then Prince of Wales with others when the Prince opened a Dock in Southampton. The other identical car, CR 9162 was it is believed given to him and became the future King Edward VIII's first McLaughlin-Buick!

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1924 McL-Buick serials from British data:

1924 MODEL 18.2 H.P. BUICK 4 [MASTER FOUR] QUOTED SERIALS RAN TO # 78150 HOWEVER THIS SEEMS TO BE WRONG:

RAN FROM # 78150 TO # 82860?

ENGINE SERIALS RAN # 1060000 TO # 1214050?

1924 McLAUGHLIN-BUICK MASTER 6 S.W.B. 120” W.B. MODELS:

SERIALS RAN # 87122 TO # 95300?

ENGINE SERIALS # 1087630 TO # 1216200 [FLINT]

AND CHANGE OVER AT AROUND SERIAL # 91200 TO:

ENGINE SERIALS # 0013000 TO # 0017350 [WALKERVILLE?]

1924 McLAUGHLIN-BUICK MASTER 6 L.W.B. 128” W.B. MODELS:

SERIALS RAN #87386 AND UP TO # 95300

ENGINE SERIALS # 1087630 TO # 1216200 [FLINT]

AND CHANGE OVER AT AROUND SERIAL # 91200 TO:

ENGINE SERIALS # 0013000 TO # 0017350 [WALKERVILLE?]

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1925 LIGHT SIX [sPECIAL SIX] 25-X25 21.6 H.P.

FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1239259 AND UP UNDER LEFT FRONT FENDER ON FRAME SIDE MEMBER

KNOWN SERIALS: #130499 ENGINE # 1352098 TO #1388728 ENGINE #1414008

ENGINE # 1264701 AND UP

OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM #84700: PLATE ON DASH

KNOWN SERIALS:

# 86804 ENGINE # 1313706

# 85565 ENGINE # 1264988

ENGINE # 1264701 AND UP

MODEL MASTER SIX 25-X54 27.3 H.P. 6-CYLINDER

FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1249865 AND UP

OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM # 93900 AND UP

ENGINE # 1439500 AND UP

MODEL MASTER SIX 25-X50L 27.3 H.P. 6-CYLINDER 128” WHEELBASE

FLINT SERIALS RAN # 1251265 AND UP

OSHAWA SERIALS RAN FROM #93900

KNOWN SERIALS: #95103 TO # 106037

ENGINE # 1439500 AND UP

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oracaluk the only information i have is from log book reg no kk8775 type/model 2454

chassis no ch89137 engine no 1145723 26.33 h.p. green sports is there any other no you need and where would i find them 1will try and post pic,s thanks ron

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That is an extremely rare car...registered in Kent in Feb/March 1924? Possibly supplied by Rootes Limited of Maidstone, owned by the Rootes brothers of Hillman/Humber/Commer/Karrier fame.

David

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Thanks for that info david any ideas on where to locate a set of end shells/poss a head (may be beyond repair ) and a gasket set not inc the head gasket ron

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Try New Zealand (and Australia?)! There are a few Down Under that I know of and the Kiwis seem to have plenty of engines to choose from in rhd form of course! I used to be amazed at how some owners had numerous Chevy engines .... otherwise it may need a contact to the McLaughlin Club?

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For info of all on this thread:

I have seen McLaughlin info where the engine info is VERY confusing. This is because McLaughlin (GM of Canada) started building Buick engines at Walkerville, probably in late 1921 or early 1922. However, and this is what causes the confusion, McLaughlin switched back and forth between Walkerville engines and engines from Buick. It seems to depend on if Walkerville was at full capacity or not. If the car in question gets a Walkerville engine, it's one series of engine numbers. If the car in question gets a Flint engine, it's in the Buick number series. The engines are, so far as I can find, identical in design, which makes it even more confusing!!

Regards, Dave Corbin

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On a side note, there is a homecoming next August (2008) for the centennial of McLaughlin in Oshawa. We haven't made plans for certain yet, but it would be nice to attend. I might even bring a Canadian Buick.

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Dave,

Can you tell if this s/n engine came from a 38 McLaughlin. The number is 3292378, it is a 248 cid

Thanks,

Glenn

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