R W Burgess Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I'm temporarily pinning this statement of fact. I've received two e-mails seemingly from Steve Moskowitz at headquarters listed as represented below;Aaca RE: Incoming Msg aaca1@aaca.org"Notice the lower case second "a" in Aaca!" That tipped me off. Steve said he did not mail this. They both had attachments, which I scanned, showing virus infection. Please be aware of this until I get to the bottom of this mystery. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BruceW Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Wayne,Thanks for the "heads up".For several weeks, I was recently receiving several emails every day supposedly from John Packard with no text but unusual subjects and attachments. I mentioned this to John and he must have gotten rid of the virus since I haven't received any more lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6219_Rules Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Everyone should have an anti-virus package, like Norton, that updates (or is updated) on a regular basis. No one should be without. These packages are not expensive. Download one or go to the store and buy one. There is no reason why such emails should be a danger.Do your homework...check out who has the best anti-virus engines and get one, maintain it and RUN it. That means having it on in the background as designed...in spite of the drag on your resources. This should be a non-issue today. All new computers come with complimentary anti-virus software, and if second or third hand, the word is still out there to not go unprotected.Ring ring...clue phone...its for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Someone is attacking this site as it has happened to our general AACA address and another member of the Forum. It even has happened to Peter's address. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 Steve, just let us know what we are to do. I can delete your e-mails by calling the messages spam, but that would cause other problems. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skyking Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Randall, your absolutly right....I have 2, Norton & AVG. If one doesn't catch it, the other will.......I never have a problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Randall, your absolutly right....I have 2, Norton & AVG. If one doesn't catch it, the other will.......I never have a problem! </div></div>WHOA!!! BIG TIME BADDY THERE! You can never have <span style="font-style: italic">two</span> anti-virus programs in your computer simultaneously. They'll spend all their energy interfering with each other and will cancel each other out. I don't understand it either, but I've had AVK, McAfee and (currently) Norton and they all say the same thing. According to the manuals to load two at one time leaves you with no protection at all. In fact the current Norton programs won't even load if there are even remnants of old anti-virus programs on the disk! (Man, was <span style="font-style: italic">THAT</span> a pain!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearchoclatetown Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Somebody attacking this site, probably the **** hotrodders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 You also need good anti-spyware software like SpyBot or AdAware. It cost me over $100 to get me machine straightened out after spyware got into it. It started one day when I visited a tripod.com picture hosting site (beware of tripod.com sites, I've gotten a couple of nasty viruses thru them) and all of a sudden I get this "installation started" message- and I hadn't initiated any program installation. There was this damned little dancing witch doctor down in the corner, loading EARN (eZula Advertising Revenue Network) onto my machine. Couldn't stop the installation even after disconnecting from the Web- it started right back when I logged back on. Tried to uninstall it after it had loaded, but it apparently plants hidden stuff deep into the hard drive.He was a nasty one too. Finally disabled the computer entirely- wouldn't even boot up. In the meantime- I was getting literally dozens of pop-ups, certain keywords were being tracked on all websites I visited including this one (they were highlighted, and then I'd get a popup about that word), and my MSN search engine defaulted to coolsearch or some such garbage that seemed preoccupied with peddling Viagra.Ended up wiping the entire hard drive and starting over.I also recommend using Mozilla Firefox or another browser that has built-in pop-up and adware blocking.I think people who develop stuff like eZula should be hung upside down and their toenails pulled out. What a total WASTE of talent. Worse than the telemarketers.Going there, even if you are on the federal "Do Not Call" list, that still doesn't keep certain exempt charities and fundraisers at bay. I had to get really ugly with MADD just yesterday- their 800 # had showed up on my caller ID every day, sometimes twice a day, for over three weeks before I finally answered the phone and cleared the air with them. And they had the nerve to ask if they had done something to offend me! Yup- you call here repeatedly even when the TeleZapper should indicate to you the number isn't in service, you offend me.Mebbe this should have been in R&R. (Steaming <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skyking Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 WHOA!!! BIG TIME BADDY THERE! You can never have <span style="font-style: italic">two</span> anti-virus programs in your computer simultaneously. They'll spend all their energy interfering with each other and will cancel each other out. Dave, I was unaware of that, needless to say, I haven't had any problems and I visit alot of sights.......Maybe just the Norton will be fine. I also use Ad-Aware & Spybot............Thanks for the warning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 For those who don't know you can download Spybot S&D for free from their web page! Mine catches at least one program a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29 Chandler Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I don't want to start another thread, but as someone who spends all day working on PCs I got smart and bought an Apple. No worries anymore about all those Windows virus.Kinda of like the mechanic who bought a Honda, because he did not want to work on his car when he got home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6219_Rules Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Amen to that...with two reported virus's out in the last 4 years to attack Apples, and not very well distributed at that (thank god), Macs are a very nice haven from all that nonsense.I've been using a Mac since 1998 <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Very happy here with my iBook. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Some virus programs replicate themselves by automatically forwarding email using address books stolen from PCs. Chances are that email didn't even originate from Steve's computer or from HQ. Norton has a virus encyclopedia that you can use to look up the latest threats and how they operate. I just had a heck of a time clearing some spyware from mine. Actually, I was ready to toss a piston rod thru the screen but by level-headed, patient and very PC savy wife Susan saved the day (and my year-old Dell) from disaster. CW Shredder also works well. I found that a lot of spyware is embedded in the registry and cannot be easily deleted. Adaware and Spybot didnt get it all but they are very good so long as you keep them updated and run them regularly.Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 Thanks Terry, And a thank you to Dave@Moon. I just downloaded Sypbot and found 4 "problems" which have been fixed. Now, to go back to their site and download the "speedup" function. This PC still only runs at about 26,000 to a top of 32,000bps. Gloria's pc is much faster at around 40,000 to 45,000 bps, whatever that is. Who's that fool that said computers are easy, just play with them and you'll learn all you need to know! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Yes, I've learned how to look up and find new websites to clean up the viruses I continually run into. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_steve Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Yuck. We've been hacking around with antique hand-me-down Macintosh's for several years now, but now that my son's getting into more & more involved computer-related school stuff (he's in the 6th grade--how times change...), we're "feeling the heat" to get a modern PC. All these virus, spy, etc., lines of defense (& associated maintenance fees) sound "just lovely." Guess we'll be joining the crowd soon nevertheless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 17, 2004 Author Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hey Steve, they're getting cheaper every year. And the neat thing is if there's something you don't like about the one you just bought, you get to buy a new one every couple of years because the old one is obsolete. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Come join the fun! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stock_steve Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Wayne, we use Dells at work--they seem pretty bulletproof (at least as far as the hardware goes--for software glitches we "call in the experts" and let them worry about it--which isn't too often--and our company evidently also has ongoing/regularly updated virus, spyware, etc., protection, so not too much action there either, thankfully). Do you have any recommendations? I'm kind of partial to buying electronic gadgets from Costco because their return policy is so customer-friendly. Maybe might be worth seeing what they carry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Stoneberg Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Thanks to Linux and other flavors of Unix, I dont have to worry a whole lot about viruses. Better then a mac or Windoze for some things, not as good in others. Kinda like a Station Wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JT Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Kinda of like the mechanic who bought a Honda, because he did not want to work on his car when he got home. </div></div> very true, I'm on my 3rd mac and can still pull the old ones out of the closet and fire them up just fine. They're great machines. BTW what's a virus?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 "What's a virus?" Funny JT, I found out this computer probably has a bad modem, the reason for the slow web site speed. And, Bill I don't give recommendations since I've haven't a clue how all of this stuff works. I just know it does most of the time. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I'm unpinning this thread now guys. I assume everyone has seen the message by now. Thanks for the replies. Oh, Randall, how much does a Mac computer cost? Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Wayne ~ Ask father Ron about Macs. He is very knowledgable on the subject.hvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 I will Howard, but I was just curious. I bought a new Dell about 5 months ago, and it's still in the box in the middle of the floor. I have so much software on the old HP concerning the NN Regions Newsletter, that I just can't push myself to change over yet. It won't be long though where I'll have to take the new one out of the box, what's left of it. Our 3 cats have about opened up one side of the box...they love cardboard. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JT Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Wayne, a new G5 imac with 17" LCD screen runs about $1300. I bought a refurbished imac a few months back for $1000 from the Apple Store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wowabunga Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 >>Better then a mac or Windoze for some things, not as good in others. Kinda like a Station Wagon. <<Having a station wagon and macs I'm grin'n from ear to ear with your analogy...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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