AdamInNH Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 There are several ‘Orange’ counties in the U.S. Not sure which one this would have come from, perhaps California? I found this in an antique shop - I think - in SoCal a few years ago. Same design both sides. Anyone know more about this one? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Is the dogbone cap itself marked as Boyce or just the motometer? I think the doggone cap is a generic item. The Boyce Motometers did not come already mounted. They were boxed and sold fir whatever application was desired, being mounted on owner supplied caps. Nice piece and a great discovery. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamInNH Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Terry Bond said: Is the dogbone cap itself marked as Boyce or just the motometer? I think the doggone cap is a generic item. The Boyce Motometers did not come already mounted. They were boxed and sold fir whatever application was desired, being mounted on owner supplied caps. Nice piece and a great discovery. Terry @Terry Bond the dog bone had this knock-out plug still attached. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Thanks. While the cap was not made by Boyce it was sold for the purpose of using the motometer with it if desired. Nice item. Thanks for sharing. Terry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxgvd Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I have a lovely German Silver, I think, flip top from the side opening rad cap. I would like to identify the make and model. Originally it had the Boyce cover plate as posted above. I've installed a working motometer, not Boyce, with a metal front cover. The backside is printed on yellowish paper. No identification on the Motometer either. I should say on the rad cap wings it had a male threaded pot metal system. I cut that off and retreaded it to fit my '15 McLaughlin, it also fits my '13 Buick. Any thoughts? Both pieces are original finish, unrestored. Gary 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 Gary, that looks really really great ! thanks for sharing. Everyone thinks Boyce when they think motor meters but there were others as well and many not marked with the manufacturers name nor location they were made. There were some really interesting detailed motor meters made with the viewing glass hidden at the back part and the casting very highly detailed figures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjohn Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 great models everone, I have in collection a large boyce motometer made for Sayers & Scovill around 1920's not an usual one 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, johnjohn said: great models everone, I have in collection a large boyce motometer made for Sayers & Scovill around 1920's not an usual one Hang on to that one it is a rare bird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Swallow by François Victor BAZIN (1897 - 1956) of Paris 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Bazin made some wonderful looking mascots! Your Swallow is amazing. My wife actually allows this one to be in our bedroom, which is unusual as only a few are allowed outside my “junk room”. He’s named “Amour Frileux” which roughly translates to chilly love. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) On 11/10/2023 at 9:00 AM, Walt G said: Here is another one of the caps I bought at Hershey this year… Walt, One of these just showed up on eBay and it is still with the box so now you have a positive ID for it! A Boyce Motometer Aristocrat Line-O-Vision, which is quite the mouthful. Edited January 25 by TheMoneyPit (see edit history) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamInNH Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Here’s one that I’ve had for years. Restored. Bought it from a guy that used to come to meets in the Boston area. He was from Quebec. He had a lot of cool stuff. The back is marked “Copyright V Aronson”. Under the wooden base it’s written 1917-1919. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruffsup Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 "Scalded monkey" mascot by Sandoz. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 LOVE this thread, and the photos of all the fabulous collections. Keep 'em coming! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Here is the radiator cap for my Model T. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamInNH Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 This is the tallest mascot I’ve ever seen. 10.25” to the top of the hoop. So cool! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamInNH Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) National Highways Association mascot and a new, old stock NHA grille badge. The flags on the badge are cloisonné. https://highways.dot.gov/highway-history/general-highway-history/good-roads-everywhere-charles-henry-davis-and-national Edited February 24 by AdamInNH (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Don Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Hello, this definitely seems to be the right crowd for this question. The Rolls Royce "Flying Lady" was made in several sizes, does anyone know what size would be the correct size for a Silver Ghost? My reason for asking is for an "old fashioned" experiment. -I have a poorly cast copy of that figurine, and at that it was mistreated, anyway, I am a little skilled at sculpting techniques, and I think I can take my copy and make her more accurate. This copy will be an amalgam of aluminum, body filler, clay and epoxy. Primed. And additional surfacing to create the finer details, and of course a RTV mold. The RTV mold however will be diluted 30% with Mineral Spirits, the "Pattern" is removed after the rubber sets, and that is set aside for a few weeks. The solvent evaporates away, and the mold shrinks. About 15 to 20%. Recast into that mold and then another "Shrinking mold" is made, rinse repeat. . . . At any point as the molds are shrinking, casting can be made to judge the progress, and examine the surface details. It is slow going and YES, and computer files probably exist somewhere, or a proper scan could be made to an existing original, to create a figure of any size. But where's the fun in that? If anyone could answer this query, I'd be grateful. -Don PS, I have a Model A Quail in progress, and this technique does work, -it's just really slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2024 at 1:27 PM, AdamInNH said: Very interesting mascot… is it the cap that is bulged up with a ball on it, or is it different than my earlier one??? These are the two styles I know of, the earlier ones are a white metal and numbered, the latter style is brass and has a copyright symbol on the back. If the base on your mascot is different it would be a third variant. It’s been a very long time (the early 1980’s ??) that a dealer at a small flea market in Amherst NH had gotten into a large stash of NOS brass style eagles and the radiator badges. As I recall he had more than 25 of each but the boxes were all ruined. I bought both a mascot and a badge but I didn’t think to invest in a couple more. It was a shame that the boxes didn’t survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoneyPit Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 On 2/24/2024 at 2:48 PM, Mr. Don said: Hello, this definitely seems to be the right crowd for this question. The Rolls Royce "Flying Lady" was made in several sizes, does anyone know what size would be the correct size for a Silver Ghost? An impossible question to answer without more information… the Silver Ghost as a model was made for about 20 years and the size of the mascot changed significantly over those years. The cars made in Springfield had special mascots for American production. Too many variables Mr. Don So, what year did you want to copy? British or the American made cars? This one is an American Phantom 1 which was used from 1926-31 and stands 6-1/2” tall without the cap or base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Everything (and more) you need to know about the famous Rolls Royce "Spirit of Ecstasy" (Flying Lady) mascot. While this doesn't answer your technical questions about materials and methods in recreating one, my advice is to first get permission to do so. I believe the design is copyright. https://rroc.org.au/wiki/images/6/6d/SpiritOfEcstasyPart4-by-BGillings.pdf Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Don Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Wow! I'm sorry for redirecting this thread! -and WOW!!! I knew there were several sizes, but I had no idea how many! Thanks guys! I have some research to do. Again thanks! -Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Here is ( I think - Steve Moskowitz can you chime in here and confirm? ) a 1933 Oldsmobile hood 0rnament. Die cast chrome plated. 4 1/2 high 10 1/2 long. And it just screams at me "FRAGILE" . I am amazed that something like this has survived without being broken or seeing metal fatigue from age and show cracks . Just to remove it from the shell on the car one had to be careful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 37 minutes ago, Walt G said: Here is ( I think - Steve Moskowitz can you chime in here and confirm? ) a 1933 Oldsmobile hood 0rnament. Die cast chrome plated. 4 1/2 high 10 1/2 long. And it just screams at me "FRAGILE" . I am amazed that something like this has survived without being broken or seeing metal fatigue from age and show cracks . Just to remove it from the shell on the car one had to be careful. Amazing find, '33 was still prime time for pot metal disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3macboys Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Walt, I can't add to the ornament but 1933 Oldsmobiles are partially responsible for my being involved in the old car hobby. You see, my grade 7 and 8 home room teacher was restoring one at the time and he introduced me to this thing called "Hershey" - Ironically he could never go while he was teaching. In those years (1980-82) his daily driver was a Covair so you can tell the kind of guy that he was. So between my father and he, here I am on the Forum! Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 12 hours ago, 3macboys said: my grade 7 and 8 home room teacher was restoring one at the time and he introduced me to this thing called "Hershey" - Ironically he could never go while he was teaching. When I was teaching I had the same problem - getting the time off to go to Hershey. I talked to the administration and told them I have over 80 sick and personal days saved up I never used and probably won't - I need 3 days in October each year to go to Pa. and of course it would always coincide with a holiday the next Monday that the school was closed. I told them that they could take 2 days for each one day I wanted to use. It all eventually worked out. Hershey was more then just a car show/flea market I was heavily involved with the Society of Automotive Historians ( on their national board, as Vice President, as Editor of their Journal etc) and had meetings to attend for that as well because it would be the one time of the year most of the board members from all over North America could get together in person. Glad you got introduced to "Hershey" for many of us it is an annual recharge of our spirits to be there, it is now for my son for the last 30 years too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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