Rick54 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Looking to purchase my first A, unfortunately its located out of state and the buyer wants me to pay and ship through Vettron Global LLC, a broker/ shipper. I'm a little hesitant as I don't know where the seller lives, the car(was owned by his father who passed last year)is located in New Mexico and the broker/shipper is in WV. The water is a little muddy it seems. Anyone know anything about this Vettron Global LLC? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 A quick online search and I found their number. Call them and screen. If you are not comfortable with sellers' terms and conditions, don't move forward with your purchase. Others may disagree, as the buyer, you have as much say regarding these stipulations as the seller does. Don't like it? Don't buy it. I generally don't like it when people dictate how my money will be spent. Although your description is very brief, there is an aspect to it that would make me flinch if I were in your shoes. Good luck. And don't forget: Plenty more fish in the sea. I believe it is also a strong buyers market for model A's. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rick54 said: Anyone know anything about this Vettron Global LLC? No, I don't Go there. See the A for yourself. 99% this is a scam. 21 minutes ago, Rick54 said: I don't know where the seller lives 21 minutes ago, Rick54 said: the car(was owned by his father who passed last year)is located in New Mexico 21 minutes ago, Rick54 said: the broker/shipper is in WV The only thing missing here is an oil rig. Protect yourself. Get on a plane and go look at it. My guess is you will be unable to arrange it. Edited August 22, 2023 by Bloo (see edit history) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Here's a fast way to find out if it's a scam. Tell the seller you have located someone in the area who can look at the car for you. His response will tell you right away. "I can't show you the car (for whatever reason)" equals, WALK AWAY. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Definitely a scam. The company and its website are only there to add credibility so you'll send them a few thousand dollars. There is no Model A. Edited August 22, 2023 by Matt Harwood (see edit history) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akstraw Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On google maps, looks like Vettron Global’s street address is a fifty-year-old split foyer in a residential neighborhood. Plenty of nice Model A’s for sale out there from reputable sellers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveVW Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 New to this forum. I was looking to buy an old VW bug and I am getting the exact story as you are. Same story about dad passed away and same shipping company. I’ve been suspicious from the first email I received and almost positive it was a scam but this seals the deal that it isn’t legit. Did you ever find out any more info or did you walk away from the seller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 SCAM ! Walk Away ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) We've seen this before, but it's worth telling newcomers. Here are some characteristics of a fraud: ---The price is too good to be true. They want you to react without much thinking. ---The sale needs to be done quickly, for some excuse. They don't want you to ponder or ask others. ---The car cannot be seen. The seller is in the military, or on an offshore oil platform (!), or crippled. Maybe the car is already crated and at a Google shipping center (of which there are none, and cars aren't crated to send within the country.) ---They will deliver the car for free, and if you don't like it, you can ship it back at their expense. (Ridiculous--that means the seller would be paying shipping THREE times if the first buyer rejected it and he sold it to the second one. No one offers free shipping of a car.) ---Photos are taken from the internet. The "seller" does not really have the car. We are pretty wise here--wiser than serpents. Edited September 1, 2023 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 From what I've seen, the buyer always pays for, and almost always arranges shipping. The seller may recommend a company if you ask, but NEVER requires you to use anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveVW Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 It’s been funny to watch the “seller” try to avoid letting me to look at it in person. Obvious red flags went up after his first email response and it’s only gotten worse from there. He even sent a picture of the title (which is easy enough to fake nowadays). He is using a name for a sales person at an actual Volkswagen Dealership that sells new cars. These scams just never end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, SteveVW said: It’s been funny to watch the “seller” try to avoid letting me to look at it in person. What excuses did the criminal use? Exposing scams helps fellow collectors now and in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demco32 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Scammers think overseas buyers can't come to see a car in person but however a good shipment company is always offering a service to inspect a car for you as buyer. If a seller is not correct in providing enough information we just walk away from the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trulyvintage Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Buy directly from the Seller. If you can’t go get the vehicle yourself then transport directly with the person driving the truck pulling the trailer. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveVW Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 35 minutes ago, John_S_in_Penna said: What excuses did the criminal use? Exposing scams helps fellow collectors now and in the future. So far he has just tried the hard sell. Saying I can go see it but that he is tired of messing around and has four other people already coming to see it so if I’m really serious I should just send the money, lol. I responded by telling him I can be there in a few hours to inspect it, but I’m willing to bet that I never hear back or get further excuses given that there is no car to inspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, SteveVW said: LOL every sad trick in the book here. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) On 8/22/2023 at 4:31 PM, Rick54 said: Looking to purchase my first A, unfortunately its located out of state and the buyer wants me to pay and ship through Vettron Global LLC, a broker/ shipper. I'm a little hesitant as I don't know where the seller lives, the car(was owned by his father who passed last year)is located in New Mexico and the broker/shipper is in WV. The water is a little muddy it seems. Anyone know anything about this Vettron Global LLC? Thx Forget that scammer, you've got a far better resource here to find a Ford Model A which is a good honest value: the For Sale - Not Mine Forum. A number of us repost Model A for sale regularly from other on-line sites such as Craigslist and Fb Marketplace on the For Sale - Not Mine forum to bring them to the attention of interested buyers. "Not Mine" Automobiles For Sale - Antique Automobile Club of America - Discussion Forums (aaca.org) Literally hundreds of Model A Fords are available for sale at any given time since so many have been restored over the years. You should be able to spec-out the year, body style and even colors you prefer. Good luck with your search. Edited September 1, 2023 by 58L-Y8 added link (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: LOL every sad trick in the book here. Yes, SteveVW, the lying "seller" is using some of the tactics I enumerated above, and which we all have seen before: ---The shipping is free. ---He works overseas. ---The car is already in a warehouse. ---You'd better act quickly. Note that he contradicts himself, since he isn't following truth. "First come first served," he promises, and 4 others have appointments before you. But you can get the car first, before them! Tell the reprobate, "They were in line first. I'll abide by your first-come, first- served requirement, so I'll look at it after the four of them." Divine justice will take care of him, even if human justice does not. And to put it mildly, the scammer won't like it! Edited September 1, 2023 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 4:31 PM, Rick54 said: Anyone know anything about this Vettron Global LLC? Thx Rick, I hope you got the answers you need. A lot of people responded with knowledgeable help. Please give us the courtesy of a response: We want to make sure you avoided the scam. Some newcomers ask a question and never write back. Please make yourself a welcome participant on the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 https://www.buzzfile.com/business/Vettron-Global-LLC-540-850-4003 A transportation company in Fredericksburg VA. Run. Don't walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/1/2023 at 12:59 PM, SteveVW said: So far he has just tried the hard sell. Saying I can go see it but that he is tired of messing around and has four other people already coming to see it so if I’m really serious I should just send the money, lol. I responded by telling him I can be there in a few hours to inspect it, but I’m willing to bet that I never hear back or get further excuses given that there is no car to inspect. Always in a hurry. Six people are interested. Better hurry up. Family member passed away. Don't have time to deal with the car. THIS THE SCAMMERS PLAYBOOK!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Vandelay Industries is another sham company to look out for... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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