GasWorksGarage Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Needing one for a 1928 Buick 6 Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Manes Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Try Ebay…there are always some available there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Glenn Manes said: Try Ebay…there are always some available there. I agree......it's a vacuum tank.......not a pump. Search under that on ebay. They are often cracked......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Did it break or threads stripped out? By your photo I would believe it is for a Master. These should have a # stamped on the raised ID section below the logo script. IE. for my 1925 Standard it is a 215-A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasWorksGarage Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, dibarlaw said: Did it break or threads stripped out? By your photo I would believe it is for a Master. These should have a # stamped on the raised ID section below the logo script. IE. for my 1925 Standard it is a 215-A. Nothing stamped on the boss. Its striped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Ouch! A stripped inlet is not good. Someone on the forum (I think Terry Wiegand) just replaced his for his 1916 with a newly made top. Most of the top mechanisims may be the same over a period of years. My 1925 Master unit is a 216-A. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasWorksGarage Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, dibarlaw said: Ouch! A stripped inlet is not good. Someone on the forum (I think Terry Wiegand) just replaced his for his 1916 with a newly made top. Most of the top mechanisims may be the same over a period of years. My 1925 Master unit is a 216-A. Thanks for the info, do you happen to know where he got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) STEWART VACUUM TANK TOP - Vintage & Classic Reproductions (vintageandclassicreproductions.com) Vacuum Tank Rebuilding Kits - The Classic Preservation Coalition Edited November 11, 2022 by Mark Shaw (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubert_25-25 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 When you put your vacuum tank back together, be sure to use "never seize" on all threaded banjo connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Larry DiBarry mentioned that I replaced the cover (lid, if you will) for the vacuum tank on our 1916 D-45. Yes, I did replace the cover, but not for the reason that you will need to find a different cover. It is my understanding that Buicks first had a vacuum tank beginning with the 1915 models. I am not for sure about the 1914 Big Six. I hope someone who knows for certain will speak up about that. You will want to be very careful about which cover you will try to put on your tank. The vacuum line connection, fuel inlet line connection, vent line connection, and tank fill opening will be in different locations on the various tank models. I am telling you about this and also letting you know that you will want to be very careful when you set things back together. My tank's problem was that the vacuum line needle would not open properly when it was supposed to because the arm that controlled that function was binding, or hanging up in the lid post. The fuel would all be used up that was in the tank and then finally the float would drop allowing for fuel to be pulled into the vacuum tank from the tank at the rear of the car. If you find a different cover, you will want to make sure that the needle is opening and closing properly with the float moving up and down. I am still looking for the proper cover for my tank (the cover I need has the Brass tag as shown in the photo). The cover that I ended up using is one that I had as a spare that was in really nice condition and the float/needle function worked properly. A friend here on the forum gave me two of the proper little springs, and they work just like they are supposed to. To make a long story short, these vacuum tanks are really pretty delicate and if they are working properly life can really be good. Hugh is right on about greasing the threads on the fitting inside the banjo connection(s). I hope that what I have relayed here will be of some help to you and anyone else. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramair Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Terry, I was waiting for Gregg the roster keeper of all Big six Buicks to answer the question about model years 1914- 1916. The 1914 B-55 had a pressurized fuel tank and did not use anything closely resembling the SW system, in 1915 Buick used the first design SW tank that from a distance looks like the 1916 and up model. However the tank and lid come together differently, to me the 16 and up tanks look very similar on different makes and years with the exception of fuel capacity. I have been looking for the 1915 design and I have come to the conclusion that they were redesigned for a reason, either prone to cracking or unreliable design? Below is my 1915 C-55 with a 1916 D-55 SW tank. I do know that this car is running a BB1 and does not need the vacuum tank, but I would still like to collect the original parts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) Nobody listens to me but the 2 big gaskets around the lids should be rubber, not cork. I know cork is "correct" for original and will work fine, for a while, but vacuum tanks depend on vacuum and a small crack anywhere in that cork will shoot the bed. Cut rubber gaskets and they will never fail. Edit: Don't use rubber gaskets if you use ethanol gas, it makes rubber swell up. But you shouldn't use that anyway. Edited December 2, 2022 by Morgan Wright (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, ramair said: Terry, I was waiting for Gregg the roster keeper of all Big six Buicks to answer the question about model years 1914- 1916. The 1914 B-55 had a pressurized fuel tank and did not use anything closely resembling the SW system, in 1915 Buick used the first design SW tank that from a distance looks like the 1916 and up model. However the tank and lid come together differently, to me the 16 and up tanks look very similar on different makes and years with the exception of fuel capacity. I have been looking for the 1915 design and I have come to the conclusion that they were redesigned for a reason, either prone to cracking or unreliable design? Below is my 1915 C-55 with a 1916 D-55 SW tank. I do know that this car is running a BB1 and does not need the vacuum tank, but I would still like to collect the original parts ramair Here are some photos of a vacuum tank that was on a 1915 C-36 I had bid on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I think that may be a earlier tank,I have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) Morgan, have been rebuilding tanks for years ,sell kits and service, parts.understand why nobody listens. Hell,gaskets used to be paper. Heavy paper, Edited November 27, 2022 by old car fan (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, old car fan said: Morgan, have been rebuilding tanks for 20 years ,sell kits and service, parts.understand why nobody listens. Hell,gaskets used to be paper. Paper gaskets to hold air pressure? Not buying it. Basketballs don't have paper valves and tires don't have stems that use paper to seal the air in. Vacuum jars don't use paper seals around the lids. NASA doesn't make space suits with paper around the headpiece to keep the vacuum of space out. None of them use cork, either. They always use rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Morgan, I pulled a tank out of stock,just to prove they used paper, I will video the disability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 I do not have a good brass tank 1 year only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Correct numbers on top dosen't matter. Most are gone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramair Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Old car fan, i pm ‘d you but I see you replied here, looks like you don’t have one for the 1915 Buick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 4:10 PM, old car fan said: Morgan, I pulled a tank out of stock,just to prove they used paper, I will video the disability. What's the viscosity of air? Here's a list of viscosities in centipoise: SAE 40 motor oil = 750 centipoise SAE 30 motor oil = 500 centipoise SAE 20 motor oil = 275 centipoise SAE 10 motor oil = 115 centipoise Linseed oil = 33 centipoise Water = 1 centipoise. Acetone = 0.31 centipoise. Air = 0.018 centipoise. I would never use a paper gasket for something 20 times thinner than acetone, especially when it's u͛͛͛n͛͛͛d͛͛͛e͛͛͛r͛͛͛ ͛͛͛p͛͛͛r͛͛͛e͛͛͛s͛͛͛s͛͛͛u͛͛͛r͛͛͛e͛͛͛ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Cork is good when it's new but then it 𝕕𝕣𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕠𝕦𝕥 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕤𝕥𝕒𝕣𝕥𝕤 𝕥𝕠 𝕝𝕖𝕒𝕜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 🆁🆄BB🅴🆁 🅽🅴🆅🅴🆁 🅻🅴A🅺🆂. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 You might not want to look at the valve body gaskets on an automatic transmission. Last time I checked they were paper and they are under significant pressure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Tires do not crack,amazing, so the tires I replaced were good,could have saved thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, old car fan said: Tires do not crack,amazing, so the tires I replaced were good,could have saved thousands. My tires are made of paper. They are brand new but I have to add air every 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) On 11/30/2022 at 1:19 PM, Larry Schramm said: You might not want to look at the valve body gaskets on an automatic transmission. Last time I checked they were paper and they are under significant pressure. ᴮᵘᵗ ᵃᶦʳ ᶦˢ ᵛᵉʳʸ ᵗʰᶦⁿ ⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻ ᵖᶠᶠᶠᶠᶠᵗᵗᵗᵗ ⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ ᶦᵗ ᵍᵒᵉˢ⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻⁻ . Edited December 1, 2022 by Morgan Wright (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Morgan,not here to argue,you're solution is ok,vacuum tank are over 100 years old, still work.do what you need to do. Over 20 cars in the barn, running on the same kits we sell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I guess Morgan is the man for vacuum tanks, how many has he done, we have been doing these for years, we have been wrong since the tank was invented, darn.Certanly I get that smart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 26 stutz, tires bad cracked ,oh rubber does not crack ,tubes cracked end of all,tell me ,how many tanks have you been involved in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 And to stop the crap we restored, sold, many tanks, some over the pond, never a call back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 With cork gaskets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 How many cars does Morgan have with vacuum tanks, I stopped at 25.deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Even wine experts say you have to store the bottles on their sides to keep the corks wet, or the cork will dry out and won't seal, and air will get in and spoil the wine. I don't know how many vacuum tanks I repaired, but I sure drank a lot of bottles of wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Gasworks,pm sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 hello, so reading these messages, hopefully one of you =van help me out. I have a 1924 Chrysler B 70. I need to find a vacuum fuel tank or a rebuild kit. Can anyone help? Thank U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 You have a Maxwell Chrysler? I would kill for one, it's one of the best cars ever made. Does it say Maxwell on the radiator, or Chrysler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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