1933 Piece Arrow

[Renascence]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2449900121696720/

 

 

Not my car

[Mark Huston]

Anyone with Facebook access can you tell us without Facebook access what we are missing out on here?

[jeff_a]

I love it! 

a)  

 

b) 

 

c) 

 

d)  Interior as rough as they get.

Edited July 29, 2019 by jeff_a (see edit history)

[mike6024]

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1933 Pierce Arrow Sedan
Grand Haven, MI · 2 days ago · 
$6,000
Seller's Description
Rat Rod Material ! Sitting in a shed since 1955 , interior is shot , sheet metal, drive line and frame solid , cash , no trades Less

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Bobby Houlihaan
Joined Facebook in 2013

 

 

There are those dreaded words, "Rat Rod Material."

[auburnseeker]

Well it would be a good parts car especially since it's still got it's drivetrain.  They can't all be saved and sometimes when a rough sedan that will most likely never be properly restored is parted,  then several other cars can get finished that might not otherwise. So in the end the carcass would probably end up a rod project for someone.  Not a huge demand for 4 door sedan body parts. 

 

Let me know when a Cord like this comes up.

[edinmass]

Late to the party boys........I was aware of the car for quite a while, very rough, and lots of stuff on it is scrap. Price started at 15K about 60 days ago. We purchased four parts cars in the last three weeks, all MUCH better than this one.........it's about dollars and cents. Add in what is actually there and sellable vs all the junk that will never sell, shipping, time, fuel, tolls, hotels........there is just nothing there worth chasing unless the number is almost zero. Need an engine.....we have four of them, clean, complete, turning, and ready to put on a pallet for shipping.....all for less than half the current asking price. It's only a parts car if you can justify picking it up and selling it off.....otherwise its just a 6000 pound paperweight. It will sell, but local, and for much, much, less.

Edited July 29, 2019 by edinmass (see edit history)

[edinmass]

14 hours ago, mike6024 said:

Wonder what Ed in Mass thinks of a P-A being referred to as Rat Rod Material ???

 

Its been done before...........to each his own..........cant save them all........

[58L-Y8]

Looks to be a '33 836, is the chassis complete enough to make it worthwhile to restore for a speedster project?

[edinmass]

1 hour ago, 58L-Y8 said:

Looks to be a '33 836, is the chassis complete enough to make it worthwhile to restore for a speedster project?

 

 

Why........too big, too heavy, and I have never seen anyone SUCCESSFULLY build a Pierce speedster. Too many other interesting platforms for less money if you really want to build one.

[jeff_a]

I agree with you on the idea of a 1933 Speedster, Ed. I have run across articles in Twenties magazines on how to convert a 1912 luxury car into a Stutz Bearcat-ish racy-looking speedster. Probably for Yale sophomores hoping to make an impression on Wellesley girls. Either could be done, but you would have a lot of car to handle. I'm not in a financial position to buy and repair this Pierce-Arrow, but maybe one of the restoration programs like McPherson College/Gilmore/Wetaskiwin/Missoula/Academy of Art University/Pennsylvania College of Technology would appreciate such a needy machine.

[John_Mereness]

It has nice metal sidemount covers

[edinmass]

Here are three Pierce parts cars we purchased in the last four weeks, all 100 percent complete including archers. Two were California cars, one from the mid west. All easily restorable but just not anywhere financially viable. Another is coming tomorrow. Two others ar available, but the owners haven’t faced reality of the current market conditions. Also, 90 percent of most parts cars will never be reused. Only a very small percentage of the car is desirable or needed. Unusually, all the cars had wire wheels, dual side mounts, and covers.

Edited July 30, 2019 by edinmass (see edit history)

[trimacar]

Ed, did you guys end up getting the Virginia sedan that was parked next to the Blackhawk?  I heard it sold but not to whom....

[edinmass]

Nope......too far gone, missing too many parts, and the price was five times more than it was worth.......IF YOU NEEDED IT. We already have three 29 parts cars.......didn't need another that was that rough and incomplete. 

[60FlatTop]

I think I saw the Facebook car sitting in a back yard in Hulburton, NY around 1990.

Bernie

[edinmass]

Bernie, I think I got that one about five years ago................it’s no longer with us. 👍

[1912Staver]

Ed, no personal disparagement, but it strikes me as sad that cars as noteworthy as your recently acquired " parts cars" will end up as junk with the perhaps 10 % of the "good " stuff removed. 

 I find information like this somewhat depressing. Is the hobby really on life support ? 

It's a minor tragedy that U.S. Customs has made the Export of cars without Titles a near impossibility.  

 

No, I can't afford to buy a good one. So obviously I can't afford a project. But definitely a loss in my books.

 

 

Greg in { Western} Canada.... where there are less than a handful of Pierce's 

Edited July 30, 2019 by 1912Staver (see edit history)

[60FlatTop]

Many, many of those Pierce-Arrow and other classics suffered deterioration and weathering due to the old car mavins philosophy of "don't waste your time with closed cars, sonny". Unless a car had been nicely maintained by a funeral home or setting peacefully in the carriage house, the sedans were parts cars for the cherished open cars. The fate of the cars was in the hands of the knowledgeable collectors of the time.

 

In the late 1950's and 1960's when these cars were slid into their deterioration slot they were the "Malaise" cars of the day, the term some use for the fringe 30-ish year old cars today. Something to think about, history just goes on repeating itself. I watched and paid attention. Today one of my cars had a $125,000 price tag when it was new 16 years ago. I bought it for the equivalent price of a used Duesenberg in 1950. A true collector would squintch up their craggy old face and say "Oh, how gauche". But I'm smiling and having a good time. Too bad some anti-establishment car guy didn't get one of those Pierces.

 

Bernie

 

"Time marches on, but history keeps resetting"

[58L-Y8]

I'd love to have my period-styled sport sedan design re-body of either the '33 836 or the '34  840A.  Just lack of dollars standing in the way....