nzcarnerd Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 An interesting assembly line photo. The cars are quite big I think - seven rim bolts. I don't recognise the hubcaps. The engine looks to be a monobloc side valve six with internal inlet manifolding - and I presume the pipe over the top brings exhaust heat to the carb. The transmission is bolted to the engine and there is a starter motor. Also a distinctive front engine mount. I reckon the date is 1916 to 1920 - ish. Presumably one of the bigger makers of the time as they have a moving line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 That bellhousing with the holes in it is familiar, but my brain isn't working well enough to remember for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) It looks to have "Mechanics" universal joints, so that will narrow it down. Possibly Hudson? Edited July 4, 2019 by Guest (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 White tires: 1914 or before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I'll bet wheel lugs will eventually solve it. What gets 7 wheel lugs? Even big Locomobiles have 6. Ok, a Packard Twin 6 has 8, but that still isn't 7..... I was also wondering about the white tires. Was 1914 about the last? I was thinking 1916, but I really don't know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleek Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Looks like 8 lugs to me, one being hidden by the hubcap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Definitely 7 lugs. Later teens Hudson has 7 lugs. Greg in Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 It looks like a name on the hub /grease caps, not a triangle that Hudson used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeach Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Looking at the starter being mounted backwards on the bellhousing plus the holes in the bellhousing, carburetor mounted directly on the passenger side of the block with its heat tube over the top of the engine to the stove on the exhaust manifold on the drivers side, oil level gauge on the side of block plus the front motor mount casting, it looks alot like 1916 - 17 Chalmers model 6-30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 SEVEN rim bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, kbeach said: Looking at the starter being mounted backwards on the bellhousing plus the holes in the bellhousing, carburetor mounted directly on the passenger side of the block with its heat tube over the top of the engine to the stove on the exhaust manifold on the drivers side, oil level gauge on the side of block plus the front motor mount casting, it looks alot like 1916 - 17 Chalmers model 6-30. The 7 rim bolt pattern is also a match for Chalmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude17 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiZj-y6hZzjAhVZVH0KHfqHB9kQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptcarz.com%2Fvaluation%2F14754%2Fchalmers-model-35-c.aspx&psig=AOvVaw2YJjm2VXAiwAGZMor13x7t&ust=1562356413655178 Gearbox/bellhousing of this 1920 Chalmers Model 35-C looks close. Only six rim bolts not seven. Edited July 4, 2019 by Stude17 Further information (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Stude17 said: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiZj-y6hZzjAhVZVH0KHfqHB9kQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptcarz.com%2Fvaluation%2F14754%2Fchalmers-model-35-c.aspx&psig=AOvVaw2YJjm2VXAiwAGZMor13x7t&ust=1562356413655178 Gearbox/bellhousing of this 1920 Chalmers Model 35-C looks close. Only six rim bolts not seven. I think the six versus seven rim bolts thing may be a year difference - or perhaps a difference of wheel maker? Seen in Studebakers too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Stude17 said: https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiZj-y6hZzjAhVZVH0KHfqHB9kQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptcarz.com%2Fvaluation%2F14754%2Fchalmers-model-35-c.aspx&psig=AOvVaw2YJjm2VXAiwAGZMor13x7t&ust=1562356413655178 Gearbox/bellhousing of this 1920 Chalmers Model 35-C looks close. Only six rim bolts not seven. The relatively plain hex hubcap on the Chalmers looks fairly close to a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I googled images for a 1917 Chalmers engine and found this. Carburetor is on the left side. Jugs cast in pairs were used up through at least 1915 but could not find a photo of a 16 engine. The same engine was used, at least to my knowledge up through 1922. I'll keep looking... Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) As I study the original photo, could the image be the generator with the distributor mounted to the back, rather than the carburetor? If so, Chalmers is still a good match... Also, note the height of the block above what might be the generator... Frank Edited July 4, 2019 by oldford (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude17 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) Chalmers brought out a Light Six in 1916 and this could be it. Only six rim bolts but perhaps later models had seven. http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiCs4SKwpzjAhUZfisKHSW6A9sQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftheoldmotor.com%2F%3Fp%3D140221&psig=AOvVaw0mdHKjCJ-ykhryy87IGMlB&ust=1562372693234922 Edited July 5, 2019 by Stude17 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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