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 Well, folks, today my plans for the new garage starting to get real. Most of the materials were delivered late today. It doesn't seem to look like much, but it will be a 24X38 ft. and about 14 ft high, building, with heat, wall and floor insulation, 100 amp power, then gas heat when the rest is done. It gets cold here, and I want to keep me and my Buicks warm! The old garage, is still very good, and is staying. It holds 4 cars, and the new one will hold 3 more. I hoping that this will be the workshop garage, and to keep it to 3 cars, so that I have lots of space around them. As we all know, extra space seems to get filed up with one thing or another!

 I'll try to post updates as the work progresses.

 Keith

 

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Please do, we like to see garage builds.  It's also nice to bounce ideas around as I'm sure even in the best laid plans there are things we all forget to take into account.  

I only had two small things on mine.  Time and Cost.  My wallets empty and I still can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. ;) 

 

I also hope there is more material than you showed.  Doesn't look like enough for the frame. 

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 That's what I thought too, and was inquiring with the builder, and guess what? Two more trucks showed up today with more stuff. Think that everything is here now.

 The excavation is planned to start April 1, hope its' not just a joke!

 Keith

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Lots of drainage and stone. (I have over $5,000 in stone in my garage project and drive to it and that was with me doing all the work spreading and grading it,  with an old timer charging me very little to deliver it)  You won't regret it. Try to make sure your garage floor is atleast 6 inches above the highest grade that will touch it.   A poly barrier under the floor as well to keep moisture from coming up through the floor. 

Good luck and show us how it progresses. 

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This is an exciting time.  You know what you’ll end up with but you still wonder if you’ve dotted the “i’s” and crossed the T’s.

 

Time and cost is always an issue but When my project was at this stage I wish that I had installed more water lines, air lines, communication lines, and even some long electrical runs, especially for outdoor connections.  

 

I’m interested in hearing more about floor insulation, I’ve never heard that before.

 

keep us posted!

Joel  

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There are a few different options on the floor insulation.  There are regular smooth rigid foam sheets,  just like you use in the walls. There is also a type i'm planning on using that looks almost like an egg carton that gives you a pattern to lay the pex style tubing in for infloor heat.

If I think of it,  I'll try to grab a photo of some of the pieces a friend gave me for mine.   It's a little more expensive but he swears by it as it makes it much easier to lay the tubing out and it stays much better when pouring. 

 

Also no matter how much you plan,  you'll still wish you had done something different. 

I thought I had everything planned,  then decided to change to cedar shakes on the end, though I already bought and prefinished all the board and batten siding.  I also marked sleeves for electric on the plans and of course the masons didn't put them all where they were marked.  

Oh your ride is about to begin,  hopefully it goes smoothly. 

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I didn’t insulate my floor because it keeps the garage above 40 regardless of how cold it gets outside.  Even during single digit outside temps.  The ground is “warm” under it.  I have a couple of good electric heaters that can get it to 60 in a couple of hours when I want to work out there.  I’m in Kentucky, so the climate isn’t drastically different.  A little warmer.  It’s 24x40 with a tall ceiling and an open staircase to the loft upstairs.  No insulation between the floors, and r-13 in the walls and roof.

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32 minutes ago, 39BuickEight said:

I didn’t insulate my floor because it keeps the garage above 40 regardless of how cold it gets outside.  Even during single digit outside temps.  The ground is “warm” under it.

Do you have any problem with your floor sweating when you get those quick wet warm ups? 

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4 hours ago, auburnseeker said:

Do you have any problem with your floor sweating when you get those quick wet warm ups? 

Just around the door openings if I open them.  It would do that before I insulated it because it would get down to freezing, but now that it stays above 40 (I actually typically keep one heater set on 50) it’s very minimal.  There seems to be a fine line somehere in the 30’s that makes a difference.

 

Im very frugal, so if it’s going to be below freezing for a few days I will turn the heater on 50 and it stays there (because the thermostat won’t go below 50).  As long as the outside temps are above freezing I leave the heat off unless I’m working out there.  I don’t want the heater running all the time unless I really need it.

 

I also keep a dehumidifier in there set on low and a sheet of 4x8 paneling under each vehicle in order to create a buffer between the car and the concrete, thus keeping any moisture to a minimum.  You can feel the dry air in your nose when you walk in.

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 Finally, after a couple of hold ups from the county, actual construction started the other day. First was the digging for the support posts, using a Bobcat to drill the soil down, then concrete was poured to anchor them. Then they started building the framework. This is going up in what I'd think is and unusual way. The walls and roof will be built, then they will pour the concrete for the floor. This way, the concrete runs to the edge of the walls, and better seals the building.

 It is coming together very quickly!

 For some reason, I can't upload any pictures. It says "you can only upload 9.77 mb" But I'm no where near that!

 Keith

 

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The 9.77 limit seems to be an on off again thing as sometimes I get it and sometimes  not. I’ll post a question in the forum software forum and see what’s the deal. Interesting build sequencing what you describe ...

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I'm pouring the floor afterwards as well,  but that's because I didn't have the extra 30G laying around for the floor.  Would have been nice to have a floor already.  

Can't wait to see the photos of your project. 

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I tried uploading 4 photos that were about 1.5 mb each, which would be well under the limit, and then I even downsized them, went back and it would not let me upload one!

I will try again later today, I don't have them on this system.

Thanks, guys.

Keith

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1 hour ago, Buicknutty said:

I tried uploading 4 photos that were about 1.5 mb each, which would be well under the limit, and then I even downsized them, went back and it would not let me upload one!

I will try again later today, I don't have them on this system.

Thanks, guys.

Keith

The forum refuses photos of any size or amount from my desktop computer, but no problem from my smart phone.  Now the prose is limited using a smart phone...

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Thanks for the update Keith.  I’ve been curious as to how things are progressing.  

 

I’ll try to remember to call some time next week perhaps (this coming week is quite busy) on a couple topics.

 

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Looks like it's going to get done fast.  It took them 2 weeks to get to that phase on mine,  of course with studding at 16 on center and a 72 foot wall,  it takes a while to cut and nail it all together. 

Had a flat tire on my 20,000 lb lift.  Not good.  It unseated the tire from the rim on the sidewall.  14 ply tires don't exactly pop back on the rim easily.  I'm waiting for a friend to drop off his blast tank to give it a blast of air to pop it on.  

I'll trade my 80 foot boom lift for your scissor lift.  it's a monster and takes up too much room in the garage. 

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 Wish the scissor lift was mine, but its' the contractors. Certainly does seem to work well for them though. Part of it was prefabbed at the factory, which is less than 10 mins away from here. So it goes together fairly quickly. Never took any shots today, but most of the walls are up, and they're working on the doors.

Keith

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1 hour ago, JohnD1956 said:

Is that going to stand up to the snow load in that area?

The plans were approved by an engineer, and it meets, or exceeds the local building codes.

So I'm thinking that all will be well!

Keith

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