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I have assembled all 4 rims for my 29 DB 3/4 t truck. I need 20 wheel clamps and nuts. I am still sheaching for these claps.

I would like to find a place that can cast these clamps.

It would be helpful if in No. Calif. area , but would consider other location.

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Some are forged but quite a few were cast. I suspect the cast ones were done in malleable iron.  The one shown in the photo looks to have a casting seam rather than looking like a forging.  I have at least 25 odd ones I have picked up over the years and roughly 3/4 of them look like castings.

 Interesting wheels. Are they an OEM option ? What name is on the clamp ?  I have a reasonably good listing of different clamp styles and their applications. They might be used on other vehicles as well as your Dodge.

Greg in Canada

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I just looked up AB&I foundries 800-468-4766.

 

When I was in my 20's I worked at Genecast Foundries as a mechanic. We had a 3000 # pour Bessemer furnace and a few induction furnaces where we took on contract jobs for International truck axles and housings, kind of a similar use application. We also cast some of our machine repair parts like auger screws and sand destructed boxes. All you need is a mold. I bet they'd run 20 or 30 off for you.

 

Or find a local foundry and show up about 1 AM with a couple dozen donuts. I'm pretty good at stuff like that.

 

Whatever you do, don't let them talk you into helping them change a furnace roof between pours. Donuts are a lot easier.

Bernie

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In my experience thin, uniform seams like these generally indicate castings.  Forgings often have a wider, rougher seam with definite marks {at right angle to the seam} of where the almost finished  part is punched thru a die to remove forging flash. Either process may have a touch up with a grinder as a final operation. 

Greg in Canada

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Great. Now I've got to start digging again. I have about 50 to 100 brand new wheel clamps with bolts around here somewhere. I've often vacillated between trying to sell them, or putting them into the attic until I die, when someone will throw them out. Let me see if I can find them again...tucked in an odd corner around here somewhere....

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Thanks for all your input. I will get out more information on clamps description. They do have Firestone label on them and I do believe they are cast malleable iron.

I would prefer to find some for sale, but may have to to have them cast at a foundry. I found one here in Valley Springs Ca.

These are original rims for this truck. They were available as an option on 3/4 ton 120 wheelbase truck. My truck truck also has the optional heavy duty rear springs. They have an extra leaf added.

The attached factory photo is of a 1 ton truck with these rims.

 

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21 hours ago, Restorer32 said:

If castings I would not trust anything less than malleable iron. I interpreted the seams as evidence of forging rather that casting.

 

Usually thin parting lines like the ones in the photo are from casting.  Forged parts typically have a much wider parting line.

 

Note the parting lines on these two cranks.  Cast on the left, forged on the right.

 

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My 1930 Wheel and Rim manufactures catalog lists your clamps as  C-59. They are used with Firestone Style D and DT rims. They are used OEM on quite a few cars and light trucks from the mid 20's onward, so I would think they are probably not impossible to find.  As JFranklin previously mentioned there are many assorted clamps sitting in cans and cigar boxes around the hobby.  Post some good clear photo's of the clamps front, back and profile and some are sure to come to light. You will probably also come across correct configuration clamps that are not marked Firestone. Popular clamps like this were often produced as jobber parts and may have a different name or no name at all.

  The correct nuts according to my listing are 3/4 hex {wrench size}, 1/2 " -13 thd. with a built in washer that has a convex face where it contacts the clamp. They were used on Motor Wheel , Kelsey Hayes and Firestone applications and like the clamps were used on many mid 20's onward cars and light trucks. You might get lucky and find some N.O.S. ones, or as a last resort have some made. In my experience most used lugnuts are more or less beat to death and not really suitable for reuse.

 Your wheels look great!  They give a light duty truck the Heavy Duty look.

 

Just noticed, there is a eBay seller listing 24 N.O.S. nuts that appear to be what you need for $48.00. $2.00 a nut sounds reasonable to me, you definitely couldn't get them made for that.  No connection with seller. He also lists several different groups of period jobber clamps, but not the ones you are looking for.http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-1925-1926-1927-Ford-Model-TT-Firestone-DT-Motor-Wheel-Kelsey-NOS-Rim-Nuts-/112143505480?hash=item1a1c461848:g:6wgAAOSwDN1UNAJ-

 

 

Greg in Canada        1918 Packard 2 Ton, 1929 Ford AA flatdeck

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