chistech Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Coming along nicely Jerry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_P Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Looking great! I'm sure you know this, but I found on my car, to prevent leaks, I loosely bolted the manifolds together, bolted both to the block, then tightened the bolts holding the manifolds together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 put in the starter pedal followed by the toe board. then installed the lower & upper pedal plates, secured them in place and then put on the new pedal seals i made a while back. fit nicely ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 when i put in the accelerator pedal, installed the anti rattle spring and such on the carburetor as well as the accelerator pedal return spring, which connects to one of the manifold studs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Share Posted February 16, 2022 set the pedal clearance from the toe board per hte manual and service news 1/4" - 1/2" i use a small 3/8" thick block and tape it to the back of hte toe board and adjust hte pedals using that. installed the clutch return spring, adjusted the clutch pedal, also set the stop on the shaft for the pedals. put the brake linkage back on from the proportioner. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BearsFan315 Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 put on the radiator and support to hold it in place. realized I needed to drop on the splash apron to help located the radiator as well. so a little tweaking, some measuring, etc., got the radiator lined up and the splash apron in place. snugged down the radiator and the supports. splash apron will get secured later when i put on headlamp bar with the stanchions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 secured the headlamp wiring in place along the front under the radiator and belt, as well as up the side off the radiator. used a 3m stickie pad and zip tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 installed the lower radiator hoses and elbow with clamps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 This is where I am as of now, getting close, going to install the Gano Filter on the coolant return line so I can monitor the fluid for a bit. then once content will put the solid hose in. Hood will NOT go on until i am content with the timing, tuning, and operation of the driveline. unfortunately this is NOT my first rodeo with this car. but hopefully the last. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 22 hours ago, Ken_P said: Looking great! I'm sure you know this, but I found on my car, to prevent leaks, I loosely bolted the manifolds together, bolted both to the block, then tightened the bolts holding the manifolds together. Thank You Sir !! That is exactly what i did. process i learned from an ole timer, and works like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Put the last coolant line on this morning with the Gano Filter. tonight will go over everything and double check nuts, bolts, screws, timing, settings, etc... then start prepping for startup !!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Job well done. Good luck on the start up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Looking great! Excited to hear when it's alive! Edited February 19, 2022 by Lahti35 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Finale is at hand! Start up is exciting for you and us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 well this weekend did a recheck of nuts, bolts, connections... sunday morning picked up fluids, and started to prep car for fire up. put in 600wt in trans, and put on top cover, put some in the u-joint housing. filled radiator up with 50/50 green and water. had a few drips on the hose connections, so snugged those up. put in plugs connected wires. double checked the double check. dropped in the battery, connected it up, left disconnect OFF, then put in about 2 1/2 gallons in the tank and looked for leaks. all looks great. flipped switch and bumped starter to make sure we had connection and lined up. good to go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) next was going to leave ignition off and prime the system, pump fuel from tank to pump, then pump to carb. noticed i did not put in the paper filter yet, so started to do that and then noticed smoke coming out around the starter band !! immediately flipped the kill switch and removed starter band, smoke was pouring out, not smell though >!> what happened ?? starter was really warm as was the positive cable and the top portion of the battery. we disconnected everything and pulled the starter. pulled it apart to diagnose. This morning i had a thought, and went out to look and noticed that the clip on the starter was missing, and the contact pad on the starter was black and roughed up. also noticed that the spring on the starter button was weak, hardly any rebound ? figured that when we bumped it the spring clip fell off, and the button did not release, it was arcing across the starter contact button. you can clearly see the points on the starter button and the contact button. i did bump the starter with the battery this morning and it spins up, but does not seem to have the power it did before. so going to get a complete rebuild kit and have it rebuilt. not taking any chances, also putting on a NOS Delco-Remy starter button I have on hand. Edited February 21, 2022 by BearsFan315 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Bad luck on the starter but you'll soon have the issue fixed and good to go. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Bump in the road! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 luckily the rebuild kits for these 714L Starters and 943J Generators are available, seems that Delco used the components on MANY model for various vehicles, especially Tractors !! I have been working with the guys out in Ohio @ S&D Repair (https://www.ebay.com/usr/s-and-d-repair?_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2559)they put together some of the kits they now list on ebay. They are knowledgeable about many starters and generators and can cross reference and look up the parts. I bought the rebuild kit with the NEW bendix i do not want to have any concerns when i get it rebuilt. also went ahead and ordered the Generator rebuild kit to be safe. hopefully should be here this week, priority mail is usually 2-3 days, considering today is a holiday maybe by Friday and can drop off at local shop on Monday :! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 A word of wise with our old cars. Keep a spare generator and starter for each different model car you have. With rarer cars, I even look for radiators and carbs to keep as spares. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 well since i had to wait on parts, i tore down the starter and then blasted the housing so that i can repaint it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 reassembled and put a prime coat on it will put top coat on it once it is rebuilt, so there is less chance of messing up the paint job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 busted open one of my Delco NOS Starter Button Cans... have a few on hand, 2 for spares, and 1 for the collection. Was a little crusty, so cleaned it up and put a fresh coat of black on it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 got a surprise in the mail today, the rebuild kits were scheduled for Friday, but arrived a day early, no complaints here !! bought one for the starter and one for the generator. very nice kits, most everything you need to rebuild them, they also offer new end caps if needed with eth brush holders installed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 and here is a shot of the generator kit 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Very nice. The biggest issue is getting the big field coil flat head screws out of the casing. Luckily I have my massive vice and a 3/4” drive flat blade socket. Many times even the average impact driver will snap the tip on those screws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 dropped off the Starter & Generator at the Auto Electric Shop here locally. this is the place that rebuilt my 1930 generator about a year ago, great service and KNEW what they were doing. so they are my go to place to get Electric things done for my old Chevrolets I hope they are done by the end of the week, we shall see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 well been a while, but i did go pick up the starter and generator. was a short wait, only about a week and a half. but as always they did a great job. both look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) first up was the starter... put on a NOS switch, cleaned it up and painted it. they bench tested it and ran great, plenty of torque. Edited March 23, 2022 by BearsFan315 (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 next up was the generator, put it in and lined up the belt and tensioned it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 when we were prepping for start up a few weeks ack, we noticed there was some coolant in the water pump. Problem was it is the new sealed water pump from The Filling Station, so it did not make sense. we cleaned up the coolant, only a few drops and moved on. while installing the starter and generator i went back and checked, and notice that there was a little more coolant in the water pump trough. i noticed some coolant on the front of the head, and a spot around the water outlet. tightened it up and bam leak gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chistech Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 This 30’ I’m working on did the same thing. I removed the gooseneck and found it wasn’t level so I lapped it on progressively finer paper until it was level. Made up a new gasket, some sealer, then reinstalled it. No more leaks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) went out last night and figured i would give starting a chance... did a once over on the engine, checked fluids, cables, wires, etc... then went to drop in battery and noticed the ground wire was hanging ?!? rolled under the car and realized that the battery cut out was fired and melted !! guess when the starter was arcing it caused excessive heat and melted the casing on the cut out. i know the battery was warm when i pulled it. had to order a new switch, they are rated for 500A 12Vdc Edited March 24, 2022 by BearsFan315 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Good catch. Look everything over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Talk about the power of resistance! I look forward to the you rolling it over, starter and generator look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 well the replacement battery cut off came in, so got it installed. hoping to have some time later this week or this weekend to try to fire it up, attempt #3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearsFan315 Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 went out last night for fire attempt number 3.did my once over, and installed battery, and then tried to fire spin the engine to pump gas to the pump, then carb. i primed the oil pump via drill . and the thing could barely turn over !! i can crank it by hand and it is a little tight, but i expect that on a freshly rebuilt engine. starter is fine and works great, they tested it and i bench tested it. i had to remove all spark plugs to get the thing to turn over.so wondering if maybe the battery got fried ? burned out a few cells or something ? it is a Red Top Optima 6v, and this thing usually slings the motor around like there is no tomorrow. it stays on the tender and says it is fully charged, on a meter I get 6.4 v all day.unfortunately i do NOT have a spare 6v battery around anywhere think i will call local auto store and see if they can load test the 6v. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coyote Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Sounds like it's testing you. Keep at it, you will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, BearsFan315 said: went out last night for fire attempt number 3.did my once over, and installed battery, and then tried to fire spin the engine to pump gas to the pump, then carb. i primed the oil pump via drill . and the thing could barely turn over !! i can crank it by hand and it is a little tight, but i expect that on a freshly rebuilt engine. starter is fine and works great, they tested it and i bench tested it. i had to remove all spark plugs to get the thing to turn over.so wondering if maybe the battery got fried ? burned out a few cells or something ? it is a Red Top Optima 6v, and this thing usually slings the motor around like there is no tomorrow. it stays on the tender and says it is fully charged, on a meter I get 6.4 v all day.unfortunately i do NOT have a spare 6v battery around anywhere think i will call local auto store and see if they can load test the 6v. Can you jump it with some battery charging cables direct to the starter and frame to eliminate everything in between? If it were my car I'd try that to eliminate the starter itself as it sits installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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