Steve Moskowitz Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 OK, I know just one of you is going to ask which war but humor me anyway. Keith Mathiowetz, formerly of Old Cars Weekly, has started a new magazine called <span style="font-style: italic"> </span> PreWar Auto Notes <span style="font-style: italic"> </span>. This magazine currently is not advertising driven and has no ads. It is a publication for pre-Word War II cars. Subscription is $40 per year. Contact Keith at kcmath@tds.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Is it on a par with The Rodders Journal or AutoAficinado or Antique Automobile,quality wise? Can you post some sample pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I received a sample copy and I agree with the consensis at last nights local HCCA meeting. It just isn't worth $40 per year when club members already get publications like the HCCA Gazette and the BCA Bugle.I really do hope that advertising can reduce the subcription price to enable this publication to survive. But I stand by my previous opinion that other club publications currently offer more value for the $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I have a copy as well. While it is not on par with Antique Automobile, good pre-war coverage is difficult to find. I have dropped a couple of popular magazines because of this. What is there is not well researched, etc. Even 50s era cars seem to get less coverage than 70s-80s??? So for that reason I hope it flies.Bear in mind this is the first issue, 40 pages, no ads so it is pretty full of articles. Nice, clear photography but mostly B&W, although the feature article on Plymouth for 1934 was color. Several models featured, a feature on Brush cars and Alanson Brush, all together a nice mix - Brass, Classic, Antique. One may hope to see articles later on that may focus on tech issues unique to these older cars, collectors who focus on brass or other pre war stuff, or auto related collectibles that go in this era, etc. Although when you consider all the independents that were around in this era, there is probably plenty of car material as well.HD Bob, I would look at this like the prewar show in Wilton, you know, small but all good stuff.All that said I also agree $40 is on the high side, would hope for a bit more for that type of dollar in either paper stock/print quality or quantity but thinking about it just to support this idea (although you can join another national, like CCCA or probably HCCA for that $$ - and read about what interests you most). I am not sure if the no advertising is a policy or just due to the fact that this is the introductory issue. He will definately fill a niche market if he succeeds. Maybe the price will drop if subscription rates rise high enough. I imagine it is a fairly expensive deal to get something like this off the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Steve. Good response. Don't forget guys that this magazine has no advertising! As such, the subscription price may seem a little high although it is less than the cost of one tank of gas these days!I would like to see the quality of the paper and photographs improve over time as well. This being Keith's first issue and totally funded out of his own pocket I can well imagine the hardship. This magazine may fill a niche for many of you. It just gives you an option (although never sacrifice your AACA membership) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Steve, is this a monthly magazine?Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 Yes sir! BTW, I only offer this as an FYI..Keith is a friend but I (we) are not endorsing the magazine. However, we all do wish him great success! Anything that benefits the hobby and a project of a loyal AACA member is fine by us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I received a copy of this magazine, and I do intend to subscribe. We all need to remember that the first issue is always a sort of prototype, and that most publications will evolve to suite the readers. This publication is not produced by a media conglomerate, so the initial issues are going to be somewhat sparse until it gets rolling. I hear many people complaining that pre-war cars don't get the coverage that later cars do. Well, if you want it, you need to prove there is a need for it by buying it when it's offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Green Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Steve Braverman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> We all need to remember that the first issue is always a sort of prototype, and that most publications will evolve to suite the readers. </div></div>Amen, only to get better and better as it develops. $40 doesn't buy much these days and with 12 issues per year (and at 40 pages) that comes out to $3.33 per issue. Seems reasonable considering it is a niche market with very few (2?) that are devoted to pre-war vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkV Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Post a scan of it! Will it hit the newshelves? Like Barnes and Noble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAnderson Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The early issues of the Model T Times, an award-winning publication today, were mimeographed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Green Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1948Lincoln</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Post a scan of it! Will it hit the newshelves? Like Barnes and Noble? </div></div>You will need to contact the editor at kcmath@tds.net for info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 OK peer pressure, actually good points from Steve B. & Ron. I'm in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest papete Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I got the magazine in the morning and sent a check in the afternoon. We need to support the pre-war effort. It is a little expensive but it may evolve into a great publication on ordinary cars and not just show cars which many of us cannot afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 I did the Regions Newsletter for a few years, and can understand a bit of what is involved. Will they be looking for features submitted by readers, or is there a staff that will supply everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Bob, Keith's is the only name I recognize, although the articles certainly seemed professionally (at least well researched and well written) done to me. I think there is great potential here, ever pick up a copy of "wooden boat"? There is a niche, that has to be somewhat limited, and it is all first class. I could see that happening, just as Antique Automobile has improved dramatically. His market may grow if this trend in brass continues - I think the prewar stuff will turn over in the next ten years; look how Full Classics are doing, heck, even MAFCA and MARC membership continues to grow. A little off topic but this national growth contrasts with our declining membership in the local club. I think this may be to do with the fact that a lot of guys my age - mid 40s plus or minus are too busy to devote a lot of time in locals. One of our challenges in CCR AACA is to show how much they are missing. I know 5-6 guys in that situation right in town, they are good prospects for this type of magazine, and eventually may become more active than the occasional show or parade with their "A"s (or anything for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avantey Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Guess I am in a minority around here. The longer I play the older my car interests get. I got in the hobby with my inheritance of the Avanti in '79 and all my cars since are prewar and getting older. I am now into brass with the '13 Stude and can't wait for Brass in Bucks to tour it!!I will support this new magazine and section of the hobby as long as I can! They are the coolest cars around- from brass to the thirties there were MANY stunning cars built as the industry took form and history was made. I wish AACA could maintain a better balance in the hobby but I understand you have to go where the market takes you.Long live the prewar interest!- Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durant Mike Posted May 4, 2008 Share Posted May 4, 2008 I received a copy of the magazine today, and have not put it down. I think for being brand new, it's a fine magazine and I hope it continues to grow. A pre-war car interest magazine is really needed for us who love the old cars. I do hope that as subscriptions increase that the cost does come down though and I don't mind advertising in the magazine for suppliers of old car parts etc. Keith I think you have a winner here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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