Scott Bonesteel

Still have these listed, more photos in the listing. The reserve (i.e., this amount will buy them if not outbid) is $320, plus $20 shipping. That is my friend's price and that's why they were listed at that price. Same price range as the Plymouth and Dodge versions, which are a lot more common. Would really like these to go to someone who can use them, very nice set of horns.

Some 1934 Plymouth PE convertible coupe memories.

From the date on the photo and the license plate on that Pierce, looks to have been taken in Ohio in 1932--a somewhat 'cheeky' photo for that time and place!

Wouldn't know about the '37 D5, but I have a late '34-early '35 KCL and the splash pans are basically flat and look nothing like these.

Just listed, item number 283920946527.

Have a nice pair of 33 Desoto trumpet horns that I will be listing tomorrow on easy bay for a friend, wanted to give the folks on this forum a heads-up to look for them if interested. As soon as listed I will post the item # here to make them easier to locate, along with a photo.

As another owner of a Plymouth 4-dr sedan from the 30s, I have an instant bias, but, bottom line THIS is what the old car hobby is all about. Not to detract from those with the skill and/or $$ to take a Pierce Arrow back to Pebble Beach standards--those folks are also enjoying the hobby and standing in for those of us without the skill and/or $$ to do so. But the description by Keith really sums it up for many of us. Thanks!

That font for the Dodge lettering was used circa 1933-1938, so I would assume the sign is from the same time frame.

I'm an early '30s Mopar and not a 'Vette guy but this is still my favorite:

The photo is part of a whole series of photographs taken in 1927 at Ryan Aviation in San Diego, which was located at Dutch Flats, just to the north of the existing Lindbergh Field, San Diego's current airport. Located at the corner of Barnett and Midway. That was the original location of the airport where the plane was built and where Lindbergh flew from to St. Louis, on to New York and finally to Paris. Found lots of pictures of Lindbergh posing that day at that location--lots of people but that Chrysler is the only car I could find. Lindbergh must have been exhausted by the end of the day (he looks it!)

OK, I just re-read your original post and you need the measurement to the bottom of the frame rail. Since my cross member is out and the panel is now shoehorned back behind another car, I took measurements from my cross-member that should get you there. The overall width at the top frame mount is 28-3/8". With the cross member sitting on a level surface, the top of the center mounting surface is 1-3/4" up. On the same level, the center line of the top mounting bolt hole to the frame is 7-3/8" up. If I do the math, that means that the top of the center mounting surface should be 7-3/8" minus 1-3/4" (i.e., 5-5/8") below the center line of the top mounting hole in the frame. Hope this helps, you should probably check my math as that is not my strong suit. Pictures attached. My KCL is a late '34, suicide doors but past the change to the round gauges but not yet an early '35 (although nobody really knows for sure on these things as they were not a closely tracked as the cars). If all the pictures don't fit I will send them in another post. SMB

My 34 KCL panel has one, should be the same. Not installed at this time so I will dig it out this weekend and take some measurements. SMB

Adrian-- Thanks for that, you obviously put a lot of time into those dimensions. Like you, the more I look at yours it looks like a later fabrication. I cannot see that 'bulge' reinforcing plate on Ian's and the weld bead looks like a wire welder--certainly much better than most of the original welds I have seen on Plymouth frames in that time frame. Also glad to hear from another convertible coupe owner--my PE has a rear spare, my PE sedan is the one with the dual sides. SMB

Adrian--Yup, that is it!! Thanks for the photos, I should be able to fabricate it from those photos (unless you want to part with it??). SMB

Ian-- Couple of photos of the two hangers on my 34 Dodge DRXX. First two are of the hanger from the rear of the frame X-member. Third one, apologies for the quality, is at the rear by the gas tank cross member. Your hangers appear to be complete, this is where they go, as far as I know. Hope these help. SMB

Went through the extensive postings on Ian Greenlaw's beautiful 34 Dodge dual side sedan and located these photos of what I am looking for. In the first photo, it is the long square tube bar at the far left with the hump in it for the exhaust. The bar mounts under the main frame rails and sticks out a little bit where it ties into the brace mounted to the bottom of the wheel well.

Ian--Will crawl under my 34 Dodge DRXX coupe this weekend, much more original than my PE sedan, and will shoot you a couple of photos. SMB

Thanks. I looked there but wasn't able to find it. May have been too long ago, they only archive those for so long. SMB

Greetings all. Looking for the long brace that runs across the frame and ties into the short braces on the bottom of the sidemount wheel wells. It is probably about 5 feet long, made out of (I believe) C-channel with a plate welded across the bottom. It mounts with one bolt into the bottom of the frame rails. Basically straight with a slight 'kick' on either end to line up with the short brackets on the fender wheel wells. This description is based upon a photo of one I saw on ebay a couple of years ago and, stupid me, not only did I get outbid, I failed to save a picture of it. Any leads appreciated and, if nothing else, a photo or two from another PE dual side owner so I can fabricate the thing. Thanks and remember our fallen heroes this Memorial Day.

I think the difference between the 34 Dodge and the 34 Plymouth, at least insofar as the back seat assembly is concerned, is more dependent upon the style/design of the rear of the sedan body than of the Dodge being up-market. See the attached photo of my 34 PE sedan. As you can see and similar to ply33's sedan from 33, the body is somewhat 'cropped off', leaving a large, separate sheet metal cover for the rear of the frame and the gas tank area. The 33 is similar, although the cover is shorter. On the 34 Dodge, as can be seen from Ian's earlier photographs, the body swoops down in a 'ducktail' fashion, all the way to the bumper bolts, without a separate gas tank shroud. That is probably why Dodge provided easy access, as the space was larger and more useable. As with the 33, the 34 has room for my jack and some tools, not much else. The top of the seat frame hangs off a couple of brackets and the bottom screws into the bottom of the braces behind the springs. Keep up the great work Ian, I am in awe. SMB

Love the YOM plates, nothing else looks just as 'right' with a vintage car. Here is the one on my 34 Plymouth sedan. The two 'tabs' for the month/year on the registration tags used to be provided by the state, I painted them black because they look better than the plain brushed aluminum. I have seen them for sale on line as well.

Just a heads up: The chrome window frames with the integral vent on the 34 convertible coupe are unique to the convertible coupe. The chrome frames are 'square' while those from all of the closed cars have a ridge in the center to ride in the felt window channel. Photo of a 34 convertible coupe window frame, passenger side, attached for your reference. Difficult item to find. SMB

I knew a guy in Los Angeles who had so many radios stolen out of his that he said he was beginning to believe that 'BMW' stood for 'Break My Window'.

Little bit of trivia: That '69 Caprice is parked in front of Mission San Diego de Alcala in Mission Valley/San Diego. Still looks just like that if you wanted to re-create the photo. I believe Chevrolet was taking pictures throughout San Diego in that time frame, one ad photo was taken in my in-laws' driveway in Point Loma but I have never seen the resulting ad. Great looking Caprice by the way. SMB

You can file this one under 'where there's a will, there's a way'. When my present house/garage were being rebuilt/remodeled, we moved into an apartment with a 2-car garage. By taking careful measurements and using a floor jack to get the panel and the coupe right up against the walls, my sedan fit in between with about 1" to spare on each running board. Allowed me to store the 'fleet' until our house was done.