MIClassicGirl Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Brake lines are finally on the car! I even put the brake pads on the left front brake back plate!! All by myself!! hehehe We took a break from working on the car this winter so my husband could do vintage snowmobile racing. We did well, second overall in the Mod enduro class for the season! Not bad for a rookie season. But, now it is back to the car. I've been bugging him since Dec to order some parts so I could work on it, but that didn't happen! lol Next is either finishing the rear axle (which my husband is on his own with that one!) or the steering box. One of those two. And I have to finish sanding the wood of the wheels so we can get them painted & some new rubber put on! Slowly but surely we'll get her done! Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 That is looking GREAT, Shannon!! Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Thanks John. My daughter has been bugging the snot out of us to get working on it. She wants senior pictures taken with the car some time this fall!! Yikes! We need to get moving on it! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Please excuse my ignorance as I don't know a darn thing about 1928's, and just a little more than that about my 1926, but did they use copper brake lines???Unless I'm seeing a copper color from the photo.Just curious......Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I was thinking the same thing. (illegal)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Brake lines are finally on the car! I even put the brake pads on the left front brake back plate!! All by myself!! hehehe We took a break from working on the car this winter so my husband could do vintage snowmobile racing. We did well, second overall in the Mod enduro class for the season! Not bad for a rookie season. But, now it is back to the car. I've been bugging him since Dec to order some parts so I could work on it, but that didn't happen! lol Next is either finishing the rear axle (which my husband is on his own with that one!) or the steering box. One of those two. And I have to finish sanding the wood of the wheels so we can get them painted & some new rubber put on! Slowly but surely we'll get her done! Shannon[ATTACH=CONFIG]189304[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]189303[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]189306[/ATTACH]Nice job. Copper lines? My daughter has a cottage up in your area plus they run the cross country snowmobile charity run that I thinks starts at Mackinac island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert b Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I was thinking the same thing. (illegal)?I can not coment an any roadworthy rules other than what is in Australia, if the vehicle came with copper lines than as a restored vehicle it as accepted for road legal use (N.S.W. Road and Traffic Authority). All of the Dodge Brothers vehicles sold here in 28,29,30,31 that i have seen in original unrestored state all have copper brake lines.I have some what of a stock of these old copper lines that have been replaced with new stock copper when necessary work has had to done. In discussion with the N.S.W. RTA all there requirement is that the copper lines be fixed at no greater spacing than 5 inches and are held firm along side the frame . regard bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Yes, the original brake lines on the car were copper. We debated on whether to go that route or not & my husband decided since we are restoring to original state, it seemed appropriate to use the copper lines. The lines we used are thick walled copper lines. Since my husband works in the automotive industry, he knows what's legal & what's not. We haven't finished attaching the line in the original places it was attached to the frame, but at least it is one more thing put back onto the car! lol Small steps!countrytravler....Where's your daughter's cabin? It's always a surprise to us to talk with someone that is familiar with where we live. Are you talking the MichSkanksa ride they do across the northern portion of the US to I believe the original destination was to Alaska? Too long of a ride for me, but it is for a very good cause! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Originally there was a combination of steel, rubber and copper used on the Dodge brake systems of this era Edited April 21, 2013 by 1930 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Originally there was a combination of steel, rubber and copper used on the Dodge brake systems of this eraIts amazing what I learn from my daily activity's from this forum for the last 11/2 years about the Dodges. Before the 11/2 year, I was clueless about Dodge Brothers cars. I was and still a GM guy because of my dad being a engineer at GM in Warren MI. Jason, you know the story. I have worked on cars in the Late 50s at 8 years old till present. I'm a master certified mechanic in the car and heavy duty truck field including boats. Never seen copper for a brake line. We own about 80 Dodge cars and trucks ranging in the years of 1925 to 1968. None of the old Dodge cars and trucks we have do not have copper brake lines. We learn something new every day. Micassgirl, I'll find out about the cottage and snowmobile run they do. Couple of years ago, Matt Schonsheck won something on that run. Nice talking to you and please post pictures of you car. We are really heavy into the 33 to35 Dodge trucks. Stock and hot rods. Here is a couple of pictures. Thanks, Edited April 21, 2013 by countrytravler (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Countrytravler....an older Dodge truck is what my husband would love to have next. He keeps dreaming how cool it would be to pull up towing the car with a Dodge Power Wagon or old military Dodge truck! He drools when he sees a Deuce or Deuce 1/2! Now my husband is working on the steering box. He thinks he found a thrush washer, so he's in the garage right now trying to put it back together & grabbing a beer! lolShannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That is interesting about the copper lines. Maybe they did some special metallurgical processing to strengthen the copper. Is the concern low burst pressure or low fatigue strength? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machinist_Bill Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 That is interesting about the copper lines. Maybe they did some special metallurgical processing to strengthen the copper. Is the concern low burst pressure or low fatigue strength?I think both reasons Mike. When steel lines replaced copper they had a single flare. After a while they discovered the flare would split so they went with the double flare that we have today. I remember in my early teens repairing a rusted brake line by joining with brass compression fittings. I never had a problem because if my cars were in that bad of shape something else would take them out of service before the brake line would burst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Shannon.....how about some more shots of the overall frame and a shot or two of the restored backing plates/brakes?? Pretty please??? John Edited April 22, 2013 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Since you asked so nicely John.... The table the frame is sitting on happens to be a snowmobile work table my husband built many years ago while he was still doing snowmobile racing (MIRA series that still races today). With a couple of modifications, it's turned out to be a great place for the frame. It's on wheels on one end so we can move it around in the garage fairly easily. My husband has the gears out of the rear end & we are amazed at how good of shape it is in! There appears to be very little, if any at all, wear! With all the other wearing we've seen on parts, we weren't sure what this was going to look like, but it's great! Doesn't look like we'll have to replace anything there! At least that's what my husband says right now! lol We'll see what happens when it goes all back together!Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Shannon....THANK YOU SO MUCH! That looks FABULOUS!! It must feel great to have it this far and being able to work on a clean chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Yes, it does John. I just wish we were a little farther! But I'll take what I can get. Tonight is getting the sandblaster ready for some more parts to clean up. Then tomorrow I'll get some stuff cleaned up for my husband to paint. It is nice to put things back on the frame! I will say that. Finally feels like we are starting to accomplish things! Once my daughter is done with school, she's going to come out and help us. That will help with moving things along a little faster also. She's the one pushing for getting it done this fall for her senior pictures! We have a great state park in our area that once the leaves turn colors, it will make a gorgeous backdrop for car!! John, you still making it to Detroit?Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countrytravler Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Looks Great!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Shannon....I am still planning a trip somehow to Detroit. Since finishing our bathroom remodel I have been doing some things to ready the car...whether I drive it to Detroit or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Looks Great!:cool: ......thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 First wheel attached to car!! Once again, we are making some progress. I got the wheels back from our painter. He did a very nice job on them. It's just strange though to see these wheels cleaned up and looking so nice. We've been staring at them for so long all weathered and rusting! Enjoy!!Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGuy Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 OK,...Be honest...How many of you who looked at the picture of the wheel and went yyyuuuuccckkk! What's with that color??? Actually, in this case I think the picture might make it look better than in real life- looks a little greener (pea soup). Don't get me wrong, I am happy with the color, just was a little shocked when I first saw the painted wheels. Not a color most people would pick out of a bunch of chips! There was enough of this color on the body to take a electronic sample, and we compared it to the info from the build sheet (using color names and paint chips), and they both matched exactly to this color...so this is what it was born with....accurate as possible within reason....The rims did not have any original paint on them, so we went with a silver...just waiting on tires and they can go on..Gotta love being able to install parts rather than removing them!Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 A friend of mine back in Michigan had a 1930 Chrysler roadster with those colors and the same basic use of colors that you have on your car. I think it will look awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ok honey.....the color isn't THAT bad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thank you John!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCE Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 OK,...Be honest...How many of you who looked at the picture of the wheel and went yyyuuuuccckkk! What's with that color??? Actually, in this case I think the picture might make it look better than in real life- looks a little greener (pea soup). Don't get me wrong, I am happy with the color, just was a little shocked when I first saw the painted wheels. Not a color most people would pick out of a bunch of chips! There was enough of this color on the body to take a electronic sample, and we compared it to the info from the build sheet (using color names and paint chips), and they both matched exactly to this color...so this is what it was born with....accurate as possible within reason....The rims did not have any original paint on them, so we went with a silver...just waiting on tires and they can go on..Gotta love being able to install parts rather than removing them!DennisHello Dennis,What type of paint did you use to prime and finish your wooden spoked wheels and steel felloes?Thanks,Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGuy Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 We hired a local restoration/body shop to do the final prep and painting, he used Nason epoxy primer and TCP Global single stage paint. It wasn't a tough decision to have it done after seeing how much dirt gets in my paint jobs- good enough for chassis parts, etc., but not for things that get looked at like the wheels will!Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ok.....I have a question. This is something Dennis (my husband, MIClassicGuy) & I have been talking about. Now, I have no idea if the wheel I've put in this response is a DB or not. But the striping that was done on the spokes over the blue paint is what I'm wanting to know about. Is that something that was done a lot on wood wheels? We have several different DB Victory Six advertisements that show this in the renderings, but I know just because they were in the renderings doesn't mean it was actually done that way. I've only seen just a hand full of painted wood wheels with this type of detailing and always wondered if that was something regularly done or just for certain models.I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.Thanks, Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Lawson Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hi Shanno and Dennis I have read somewhere that the rims were cad plated silver for the love of me I can't remember where it was. Your restoration is simply awesome.The 2249 Senior 6 that I am restoring has copper brake lines as well I was able to purchase new old stock brake linings when I restored the breaking system That was 25 years ago I still have 1 box enough to do 1 axle although at the rate I am going I will never wear the brakes out Cheers and keep up the good work and look forward to catching up in Detroit Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Hi Ron, thanks for the encouragement! We had the split rims painted a silver. They turned out pretty nice also. I remember reading somewhere that they were clad in cadmium or something like that (I could be completely wrong in the material!) which make them a dull silver color if I remember right. Glad to hear you are making the trek to Detroit next year! I look forward to getting to meet everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 [ATTACH=CONFIG]189303[/ATTACH]Getting back to the brake lines. You might want to take another look at one of the unions - it might just be the photo - but to me it looks like the connection is not straight.Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 What fantastic work you're doing!!Re spoke striping: The pedestrian Plymouth had them on their wooden wheels for all models from 1928, as I understand. I would expect Dodge would have followed suit. What I'm curious about is the configuration of the striping, having seen various ones. It would be great to find an unrestored wheels with the striping intact. Here's a restored 1929 Chrysler Model 75 RS Coupe I saw this summer.frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks for the picture Frank. That is a nice wheel on that Chrysler. Unfortunately, the paint on our wheels were long gone so there's no telling. That's interesting to hear that Plymouth did the striping on their wood wheels. Makes me wonder how far off those advertising renderings were! Anyone else know anything about it? I know it sure would dress our wheels up if we did something like that. I have always thought it was great detailing on the wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Fantastic job with the wheels. keep plugging along...........I know what you mean it's nice putting things back on the car and they are actually clean too !!!!!!Keep the pics comingCheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 DC-8,This picture will help many folks - thanks for posting! So cool to see original striping on spokes and neat circumferential stripe on hub, too.frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hi David,Thank you for this opportunity! Great story and pictures. I'll be sending you a pm.Best regards,frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thank you, David! I've always wondered if the pin-striping was correct or not on the wheels! Very cool! Thank you for the picture. Such a simple detail, but I think it does add a lot to the look of the car! Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGuy Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 A little more progress.... Now I've gotta put some more parts together before I completely forget how they go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Looking good. I hope you took LOTS of photos prior to disassembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIClassicGirl Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Whooooooohoooooooooo!!! More progress made today! We set the ring gear and pinion! What a pain in the arse that was!! Oye!! Took us about 4 to 5 hours to get it done, but it's done. Now we can put it back into the rear axle & finish the rear end up! Forward progress!! I'm going to order a bunch of gaskets & some other items from Myers so we can keep the forward progress moving along!! Shannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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