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That hole has been caused by fin vibration over the years because the solder joint between the tube and fin has decayed, common to see in 100 plus year old radiators . the solder decay ( called bloom )is a oxidation of lead/tin when exposed to unfavorable conditions , ie  bugs ,salt, rain ,dust , mud , air , just about every thing has an effect after a time , but saying that a 100 plus years is bloody good work any way for what they have to do .

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Which is why most old tube and fin radiators have lost their cooling ability, the fins are loose from the tubes which cuts down on heat transfer.

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Got the body off today so I can get some satin black onto all the chassis and running gear. 
I’ll get the wheels off and pulled apart tomorrow also. I think there was a recent post about getting the rear wheels off. I’ll go back and Check it out. 

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Chassis all painted today I’ll try start getting it all back together tomorrow with a bit of luck. 
Pulled all the wheels apart and painted all the hubs and brake drums. Just need to pull all the tyres off again now and paint the rims. 

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The body is back on and it’s all going back together. Will be fitting the floor and electrical in the next few days. I have to make 2 new hood bows as there is 2 that have broken. 01B469FE-5CB4-4E26-A0C6-6922E4871424.jpeg.b045d9461f0d7f764aee6d534b7b81f4.jpeg

The paint work has come up nicely with a bit of a polish. 29551479-23F8-47BF-B2AE-EC05E43033BA.jpeg.f54065e2d46daa702cde8c06745c45bc.jpeg
Does anyone know of or have any bonnet catches that they would like to sell. 
A pic is below of the ones I need. 
I need 2 but would get away with one. 
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14 hours ago, JACK M said:

Ouch on the thumb....

I have a finger that looked like that a few months ago.

However, the car looks good so I suspect all worth it.

 

9 hours ago, Mark Gregush said:

Me too, re the thumb! 😁

Yeah I jammed my thumb on the inside of the sand blasting cabinet when I was sliding something really big and heavy out. It hurt a little. 🥴

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Made a bit more progress on the tourer over the weekend. 
Laminated up a couple of new hood bows as 2 of the old ones broke. I’ve figured out the hood irons we have aren’t the correct ones for this car but we will be able to make them work. It’s a bit of a painful job fitting the hood bows in and out a hundred times but I got there in the end. 
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I stained and clear coated all the bows  this afternoon ready for final fitting tomorrow. 

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Hi Mike I use 3mm marine ply and run the ply grain 90d to each other on each layer. I used about 10-11 layers for the bows. I weld some 2mm steel to my bench as the former and do it about 4” high so I end up with 2 bows from the one form up. I wet the corners to be bent first just to soften the grain a little. I use the foaming poly urethane wood glue. 
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got the bows stained and clear coated today. 
 

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She’s of the the upholsterer tomorrow for the hood to be made and when it’s finished I’ve just got a few little jobs to to. Had it running today for half an hour or so and took it for a little drive around our streets. Went quite well after the brakes had bedded themselves in. 
what do you guys think about the profile I’ve got on the roof line , does it look correct. 822F7D9F-56B2-4F63-90B7-3577EBDAE9F8.jpeg.8a50415adc3af6408b9bf0d99d225f70.jpeg44521295-9F8B-4AD8-B9C5-E9DFFADB157E.jpeg.e0842d3a6d057218356f5dbf05fc1418.jpeg
All ready to load up tomorrow. It seems to be starting well now. I can get it to start quicker with the crank handle than the starter though. 
 

I also seem to be blowing the fuse in the starter generator as soon as the regulator kicks in I think. The car is a positive earth. Any ideas of what to look at. 

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I think the roof line looks right.  Thanks for the info on the bows.  Are you able to buy 3 mm (approx. 1/8") marine plywood? (I've never seen it that thin).  Or is it some other kind of treated wood and you plane it down to thickness?  It looks like your outermost ply is oriented with grain along the bow.  The 90 degree ply would be very short along the grain and almost falling apart, I think.  Do I understand correctly?  I like the idea of welding the forms to the table!

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7 hours ago, Minibago said:

The car should be negative earth Matt

That’s interesting because Ron said the same thing. The car came to me like that so I better change it over. Could be why the fuse is blowing then. 
Ron gave me the chassis number when it change but I couldn’t find the chassis number to know any difference. 
Thanks guys. 👍

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7 hours ago, Minibago said:

This is my 1919 Touring so your roof line look okay I think.

 

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Don’t forget the cathedral windows. 

Thanks Nigal great pictures and I’ve got the pattern tapped to the back seat for him. 78F3020B-14F2-40CE-9206-515FEFD63D44.jpeg.6b263b1126f2ff2d0559c04bfd42a48a.jpeg

2 hours ago, MikeC5 said:

I think the roof line looks right.  Thanks for the info on the bows.  Are you able to buy 3 mm (approx. 1/8") marine plywood? (I've never seen it that thin).  Or is it some other kind of treated wood and you plane it down to thickness?  It looks like your outermost ply is oriented with grain along the bow.  The 90 degree ply would be very short along the grain and almost falling apart, I think.  Do I understand correctly?  I like the idea of welding the forms to the table!

3mm is easy enough to get normally, and yes I run the 2 outer ply’s length ways so I looks more like real timber. You do need to wet the ply so it bends nicely. 

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3 hours ago, Willy said:

I'm restoring a Dodge Brothers tourer - right now doing the starter-generator, and I didn't take enough photos - does anybody have a diagram of where the washers all go? I only want to take this apart once.

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This will show you the parts. Their position on the page is most likely the order they go in. 

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Picked up the Dodge from Grant today. 
he’s done a tremendous job on the top it looks great. 
He did cathedral windows all round which didn’t grab us at all but apparently that’s how they were. I’ve never seen one like that before only on the back. Not grant’s fault it was mine for not understanding it completely. I just thought the sides would be just rectangle. He is going to change the sides for us to rectangle sides as it’s not really safe to drive the way it is, especially in rain when they would only ever be on. 

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The top looks really great, I love the colour, the cathedral windows on the hood and side curtains are quite correct for 1918.

On the subject of correct, you are too, it is almost impossible to drive safely with the side curtains on in the rain. 
 

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15 minutes ago, Minibago said:

The top looks really great, I love the colour, the cathedral windows on the hood and side curtains are quite correct for 1918.

On the subject of correct, you are too, it is almost impossible to drive safely with the side curtains on in the rain. 
 

Thanks Nigal I was hoping you would chime in on this one. Yes I think we have to have a bit of safety first with some things these days with our traffic. I had no idea they went all the way around. 

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My experience was in a country town heading off to the Sunday morning rally start point, back streets, very wide, quite steep, down hill, pouring with rain, it looked like I was on the main road, I wasn’t.

I missed the cross street stop sign (wide road) (Trees) until very late, braking locked the wheels and we sailed through the intersection. Fortunately there was no traffic but we now “Never” travel with the side screens fitted.

The wind wings make all the difference in helping deflect any rain.

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Looks like at lest a couple of those rims are for steel felloe wheels.  That closes rim, the two holes on the side, that is how to tell Canadian rims from USA rims. US rims don't have them. Canadian rims used that mouse trap rim spreader.

 

Oh to add, that is a really great repair job on those latches.

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For US cars, the Master parts list show the 2ed series Kelsey steel felloe wheels starting between cars number 434412 and 436468 which would be between 20 Jan and 11 Feb 1920. For Canadian built cars, there could be different introduction dates. In the Model T world, there were some things that were introduced on cars built in Canada before the US cars. My 1920 DB, built around Feb 1920, would have had those wheels and rims. Currently, it has a set of Dodge wood felloe wheels and rims mounted, which would be about a month or two wrong.

If they are in good shape and roll down the road straight, that would work for me and damn anyone that says different. :)

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