Guest willeys41 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Have a RARE 29 DeSoto model K commercial sedan{delivery panel}6cyl, Stock,44000miHas not been started in 40 yrs but has been in dry storage.You have never seen another,Make offer.In good condition.extra parts and engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Holden Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hi Can you please send through on email some lager photos (so I can enlarge them and have a better look) and include some of the runnnig gear.Is the car located in Oregon? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I would love to see it close up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 My first thought was that it's a sedan with a modified rear window. That was reinforced by seeing what appears to be a more current paint job than "40 years not started".Then, I see the rear door. If it's not real, someone went to a LOT of trouble to make it.I'll leave it to the experts, but if it's real that's one rare car............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willeys41 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Its real.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Oh...it's definitely real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Then a really neat car, and rare.,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hmmm... it appears to have the same dimensions as a two door sedan whereas the panel deliveries are usually longer in the body and badged as a Fargo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Most sedan delivery vehicles had the same body sides as a two door sedan. Look at Model A Fords or other makes. The DeSoto is a sedan delivery, not a panel truck which would be longer/larger and probably would have double rear doors. I believe that the DeSoto in question would be called a "commercial car". Edited September 19, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Yikes! That's one nice DeSoto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Very nice. I doubt the American flag headliner in the rear compartment is original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Most sedan delivery vehicles had the same body sides as a two door sedan. Look at Model A Fords or other makes. The DeSoto is a sedan delivery, not a panel truck which would be longer/larger and probably would have double rear doors. I believe that the DeSoto in question would be called a "commercial car".Model A Ford sedan deliveries have longer bodies than the tudors at least the 30-31s.They make a kit to convert a tudor into a sedan delivery but it's easy to see that it'sa fake. Edited September 20, 2011 by Dave Mellor NJ (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 The above vehicle has got separate front seats as does the two door.Also there is not an example of such a vehicle shown in the Crestline book on Plymouth/ DeSoto which is the most detailed pictorial publication that I know of on DeSoto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Here is a DeSoto two door photographed in 2006 at Dunedin,NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Here's a 31 Ford. see how much longer the 1/4 panel is than a tudor. It extends back past the fender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Here you can see mounting points for the spare wheel bracket.Looks like the spare wheel has been shifted to the side from the rear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Holden Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 HmmSome bigger more detailed photos (as requested) would be good, I wonder if there is something that we are not suppose to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Smolinski Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Have a RARE 29 DeSoto model K commercial sedan{delivery panel}6cyl, Stock,44000miHas not been started in 40 yrs but has been in dry storage.You have never seen another,Make offer.In good condition.extra parts and engine2 bucks. Now what's your counter offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) The above vehicle has got separate front seats as does the two door.Also there is not an example of such a vehicle shown in the Crestline book on Plymouth/ DeSoto which is the most detailed pictorial publication that I know of on DeSoto.Good to know about the Model A. Are the 1928 and 1929 Model A sedan delivery bodies longer than the passenger car body, too? I see that one pictured is newer. The Crestline book does not show most of the commercial vehicles. Most Chrysler products had those rear spare tire mount holes. If the location of the spare was moved, those were plugged with round plugs. I still say it's real. Edited September 20, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Looks real to me. Very unlikely it was faked 40 years ago I think. Why bother? I would look carefully for a body builder's tag. Maybe York Hoover or one of the many funeral coach builders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I answered my own question. The 1928 and 1929 Ford Model A sedan delivery had the same 2-door passenger car body length, so why wouldn't the DeSoto?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willeys41 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If you disbelievers would look in The Book,the Ply and DeSoto Story By Don Butler you will see this model K commercial sedan with the side mount.I put Deliverey panel in because most would not Know the differents anyway.This is the real thing,if anyone was serious they would come look.It will be turned into a Street Rod if no one is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) I am a total believer....just no money. I will offer my whole toy collection for it. I have a room full and everyone says I must have at least a couple of hundred thousand $$ worth of toys. Let's talk.....I have other trading material. keiser31@charter.net Edited September 20, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hey Willeys.I sent you an email requesting to come and take a look but got no response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I respectfully request that you come up with a price that you want for it, post it, see what actual demand there is from users of this antique automobile forum, and not use the "turn it into a hot rod" gambit......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm ready to come and see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rohn Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 On offer of $2 has been made. I am willing to offer much more, sight unseen based on the pictures:$2500IF you have an idea of what you really want for it, I would recommend reading this (it is a sticky for this forum):http://forums.aaca.org/f119/buyers-sellers-please-read-202656.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If you disbelievers would look in The Book,the Ply and DeSoto Story By Don Butler you will see this model K commercial sedan with the side mount.I put Deliverey panel in because most would not Know the differents anyway.This is the real thing,if anyone was serious they would come look.It will be turned into a Street Rod if no one is serious.The photo you are referring to is in the 1930 pages but the caption says among other things that the photo was taken in 1956 . Also that it is in the Pacific North West so maybe it is the same vehicle.There are other comments about it that could be quoted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Well, they must have made at least two because the one in the book has chrome headlamp buckets and cowl lamps. The one in question (to some of you) has no cowl lamps. Actually, I don't know why some of you are doubting that it's real when we all know that during the depression, you could get almost anything you wanted from Chrysler Corporation. Never say 'never' when it comes to these cars of that era. To add...I have found that the Butler book has a few errors in the early Plymouth section, so it's possible there are errors in the DeSoto area, too. Edited September 20, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Holden Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 HeyI won't question it till I see bigger photos, it is something I'm intrested in, if it is correct, I'm 1/2 way round the world and can't go and see it so have asked for detailed photos (and a start price would be good?).I'm a potentialy serious buyer, but I haven't had a responce yet, just seems strange to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stephen48 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Well, they must have made at least two because the one in the book has chrome headlamp buckets and cowl lamps. The one in question (to some of you) has no cowl lamps. Actually, I don't know why some of you are doubting that it's real when we all know that during the depression, you could get almost anything you wanted from Chrysler Corporation. Never say 'never' when it comes to these cars of that era. To add...I have found that the Butler book has a few errors in the early Plymouth section, so it's possible there are errors in the DeSoto area, too.Hmmm... I can see a cowl light in photos 6 and 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Hmmm... I can see a cowl light in photos 6 and 10.Ooooooops...My bad. You're right. There is still the chrome headlamp bucket issue, but I suppose those cold have been painted later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willeys41 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Drivers side cowl light is in a box.It got broke over the years,it broke in half.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil G Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 you must have an understanding wife Keiser. Willys41, you should reconsider the street rod idea, plenty of them around already and the value would be higher in the long run kept stock, maybe with a more reasonable paint scheme. Do you have a starting price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) you must have an understanding wife Keiser. Willys41, you should reconsider the street rod idea, plenty of them around already and the value would be higher in the long run kept stock, maybe with a more reasonable paint scheme. Do you have a starting price?Yes....she's VERY understanding. We keep the door closed for my toy room/office. Any woman that will let you have a pile of stainless steel hubcaps in the yard that you can see on Google Earth, is quite understanding. Edited September 21, 2011 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 While looking for pics of 28-29 A sedan deliveries to see if it's just a modified sedan I came across this. Something about it doesn't appear quite right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Sorry to post Fords on a DeSoto thread, this is the last one. Shame this is modified but it's RHD. notice the right license and door swing. Obvious British Empire car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rohn Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 While looking for pics of 28-29 A sedan deliveries to see if it's just a modified sedan I came across this. Something about it doesn't appear quite rightit is the Packard hub cap that is wrong ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F&J Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Very rare indeed. I was a Model K nut back in the 70s.There are some minor differences in many parts used through the long run of K's which were built from later half of 28 to spring of 1930.The B&W Chrysler Company photo posted is a very, very early K, and the car for sale is a very late K. A serial number check would verify that, as it should be a higher number comparing the production numbers listed for K's.There was one for sale in Hemmings in the last half of the 70s in California, and back then I wondered if it was the one that Bulter said was in the PNW in 1956. Might have been this car, or maybe a second survivor.Anyone seeing it in person and looking closely at how the rear door is assembled, would/should be able to quickly tell if it is not a fake.Sad thing is, that ultra rare may not bring lots of money as time has marched on. Most people who liked the cars of that age (like me) have either passed away or are downsizing or just can't keep adding to their fleet. I would think an elder buyer with money, would rather find a K roadster or better yet, a 32 DeSoto conv.Maybe Keiser will hit the lottery and the problem will be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest willeys41 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 F&J, If you can e-mail me about the DeSoto i can send new pic i took today and maybe you can tell me something about the car??? willeys41@yahoo.com I think this is the only stock one left??There are a lot of disbelivers out there.I cannot find anywhere for information.Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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