danhar1960 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 In this case, if you were to invert the whole '39 pump so the bowl points down the arm wouldn't contact the camshaft. That could be a problem. :)The '38 had a bowl that points (hangs) down. I don't thick it makes that much difference in the pumps performance or effectiveness but it is easier to clean the crap/sediment out from the glass bowl of a '38 once it has been removed. In the case of the '39, it is a bit of a bugger though, and messy, to get the crap out of the pump body.Interestingly enough though, in the owners manual, (GMH Australia) it does show the fuel pump inverted but in this case it was just some boofhead didn't proof read it before the book was published and notice that the picture was up side down. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have seem a few different "photos" in different manuals with them hanging down, although, like Danny said, it wouldn't contact the camshaft that way. I think the bigger 39's with the big engine did point down? Bob told me that, like a lot of things, this pump is a one year wonder. I really love learning about this stuff as I move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) updated engine photos: Edited August 26, 2017 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Man oh Man! I'm dreaming of that day. I wonder if you're already driving it in your dreams like I do. Good work, Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynaflash8 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 A beautiful job on the engine. The engine looks wonderful except for the hose clamps. If you ever take your car to an AACA National event they'll dock you for every one of those modern hose clamps. The correct clamps are available from Bob's Automobilia in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) Thanks! Any idea what goes in these 3 holes? It looks like a square headed plug was in the bottom one in a before pic, but the other 2 looked empty. Are they supposed to be? Edited August 26, 2017 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 G'day Billy,1) The first hole to the left of the distributor, mine has a t-type, brass, water cock. I found it on 2 of my engines. It's a bigger version of the one at the bottom of the radiator. I can take a pic if needed.2) The hole under the distributor is a left over from '38. '38s had a little scaled plate that bolted on there for adjusting to different octanes. 3) The third is where the oil pressure line connects into for your oil pressure gauge.Danny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Billy, my '50 has the oil pressure gauge piped in to the one beneath the distributor. The lower on can be used for supply to an oil filter, althouhh the oil pressure could come from there as well. There ar probablythree or four more plugs in that main oil galley. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofalltrades70 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Billy, Looks like you are having some great progress! I noticed in the pictures of the engine, the stand that you fabricated. Any issues with rigity? It looks fairly easy to fabricate and my only worry would be it shifting. I noticed some bracing, and was just wondering. Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Thanks Danny and Ben! Matt, well, you can see we used uni-strut for the materials, which is incredibly strong. We weren't even going to put the braces on the bottom at first, but we had the welder out and had the material. That was probably a good idea. It seems to be holding up fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wolfe Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I saw a Stromberg carb in the original box today that was marked 1939 Buick today. If you might be interested in it send me an email and I'll tell the owner. timandjuliawolfe1@roadrunner.com.......I was in an old storage area looking for an AC type C fuel pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share Posted June 18, 2011 (edited) The engine is in! The front end didn't budge, man those springs are tight! Edited August 26, 2017 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Looking good Billy. Do you have the timing hole cover ?? I only found out they had a cover when looking through ebay years ago. I have seen them since on ebay on the very odd occasion.Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Danny, no timing hole cover, didn't know there was such a thing, how does it attach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 It just pushes in (see the pics and it becomes obvious). I've posted a few pics of the thing as sometimes parts maybe with/in the car somewhere but you don't recognise what it is. I've collected 5 '39 engines and none had the thing. It was also missing on my '38. It is supposed to be there.Maybe there is someone out there that has a father with a friend that could knock up a die to stamp a few out. :rolleyes:It's a bit of a non event piece but hey, if you can find one and get it, why not put in on. Since I got this one on ebay years ago I became a little curious about these and now always look to see if they are there when I look at other engines. I've seen a few engines and have only ever seen two others.Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Five minutes in the sheetmetal shop, two minutes at the spot welder and you're done. All you need is a one to copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I was thinking big West. Flooding the world wide market for straight eight timing mark covers. :)Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 I am thinking if the cover was on there the mice would have had a lot more trouble nesting in the flywheel cover pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I was thinking big West. Flooding the world wide market for straight eight timing mark covers. :)DannyThat's my problem. I never think big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozierman Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Is the fuel pump mounted the correct way? It seems like the glass bowl should be on the bottom. I like the work you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbob Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Is the fuel pump mounted the correct way? It seems like the glass bowl should be on the bottom. I like the work you're doing.Just go back a page...that issue is discussed. Nice work...enjoying the hell out of this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I am thinking if the cover was on there the mice would have had a lot more trouble nesting in the flywheel cover pan On the subject of keeping things out of the flywheel cover pan :On the only complete and original engine I had, the one that had the timing point cover on it, it also had a sewn leather boot around the throw out lever. It was held into the bell housing by a square shaped spring clip and tied to the throw out lever. (I should find it and post a pic) Has anyone else ever had this on there '39 ?? I could never find anything relating to it in a parts list book. (Could just be blind) Maybe it's just an enthusiastic Aussie's mod. Anyone else have this or know of it ?????Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think a friend of mine showed me something like that from his '38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malo48 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I was thinking big West. Flooding the world wide market for straight eight timing mark covers. :)DannyIf it fits a '48, I'd buy one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 dropped the cylinder head off at the machine shop yesterday...slow going right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) engine updates...also, should the nuts on the plug wire cover match the acorn ones on the valve cover? Edited August 26, 2017 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Looking good, Billy. Is the exhaust manifold painted or coated? Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassesguy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 On the subject of keeping things out of the flywheel cover pan :On the only complete and original engine I had, the one that had the timing point cover on it, it also had a sewn leather boot around the throw out lever. It was held into the bell housing by a square shaped spring clip and tied to the throw out lever. (I should find it and post a pic) Has anyone else ever had this on there '39 ?? I could never find anything relating to it in a parts list book. (Could just be blind) Maybe it's just an enthusiastic Aussie's mod. Anyone else have this or know of it ?????DannyDanny: Group 0.797 BOOT, Clutch Release Yoke 1306179 Fits 1939 All series. Other years used it as well but different part # On a different question spark plug and valve cover acorn nuts are the same.Your engine looks great! Some guys will use a small brush and paint the exposed surfaces of the valve cover, pushrod cover, and timing cover gaskets with the engine enamel to add to the factory authentic look as these gaskets would have been in place when the engine was sprayed. Keep those posts coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Looking good, Billy. Is the exhaust manifold painted or coated? Benpainted--we used Cast Blast, a product Dad has used before that holds up extremely well:Cast Blast -- Cast Iron Gray Spray Paintand Dave, thanks for the info! Looks like I need to find 2 acorn nuts for the wire cover. The valve cover isn't really tight yet, but I can see your point about painting the edges of the gaskets.mine has/had the boot on the throwout lever, but it is in pretty bad shape, seems they are original Edited August 7, 2011 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Danny: Group 0.797 BOOT, Clutch Release Yoke 1306179 Fits 1939 All series. Thanks for the confirmation Dave. Out of the 5 accumulated engines I have, only one had the retaining spring and remnants of a boot.It does look smick Billy. It's an exciting moment when that beast fires up for the first time. Keep up the good work. Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 We rebuilt and cleaned the oil pump and it really looked good, better than we thought it would. Got it installed, along with the oil lines.What oil do you all recommend running in a fresh 248? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Billy, this subject has been debated much on here. I use a good 10w-30. As some one said, anything you use will be much better than what was available in 1939[ in my case, 1950]. Looking forward to seeing your project on the road. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 makes sense, I was just wondering about the weight more than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landman Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I use 10-30 in my 1998 Dodge pickup, my '67 Mustang, my lawnmower, my snowblower and will likely use it in my '34 Chevy if I ever finish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Update: We rebuilt the wheel cylinders and master cylinder today. I like that they still say "Made in the USA" on them . They were sandblasted, polished, and painted with the same cast iron paint we used on the exhaust manifold. Turned out perfect I think. We are reusing the linings that were on there. The wear was very minimal. Of course the metal was sandblasted, polished, and painted. Edited August 26, 2017 by 39BuickEight (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GaWajn Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Keep up the good work. I have just discovered this thread and I will be following it to the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39BuickEight Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Thanks for the interest!Yesterday we turned the oil pump with a drill and we have good oil pressure, and the oil made it's way through the maze to the top end!We have just been doing little things lately to get the engine ready to fire and working to get the brakes finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 G'day BillyYou must be close to firing that bugger up soon. I remember firing mine up for the first time. It was an exciting day and I remember it well.Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lunchbox_xx Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Hi new to the tread great work i just started redoing a 39 amd was hopeing u have pics and measurements for the core support or radiator support im missing mine and cant find one online thanks and keep up the great work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danhar1960 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Greetings Lunchbox and welcome to the wonderful world of '39 Buicks. Looking forward to seeing some pics of your beast. What part of the world are you in ??Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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