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Well, here you have few more FIATs that ARE chain driven - or do you think that room under rear fender is a space for chauffers lunch? :-) NZCARNERD suggests that those top-of-line cars were specials, frequently derived from racers, so why not? The first FIAT I posted has a neat doors (to access to sprocket shaft bearing?) and I would bet I see teeth around rear brake drum. Note the detachable rims at #3 picture, very likely not 1903 car as source suggests.

On the other note - Kjeld, you said you study Japan in early 20th century. Did you know that a company named Laurin & Klement from (before WWI) Bohemia, Austro-Hungarian Monarchy (now known as Skoda in Czech Republic - still in existence) exported their cars (except other countries) to Japan as well? I am attaching few pictures for your (and others as well).

I am attaching the picture of 28-40 HP Fiat (right side), I agree the radiator with oval badge is a match to Fiat. I would say that 28-40 is just bit smaller to the depicted car, so the 35-50 model can easily be right.

This is what I have said too :-) And I am still saying it (whatever it is) was built on 24 to 27 Master Buick chassis (at least front part, axle and steering box). The rear (with half elliptic springs) is something completely different and unknown to me....

To me it looks the same, at least the front part with external brake band and cross member...

My guess is Buick Master (front cross member) between 1924 (external front brakes introduced) & 1927 (last year of flat frame rails). The steering box (Jacox) support this guess as well.

1928 533 Brozik (Czechoslovakia) before and after....

Wonder what else is in your box of "like 1920s Buick parts" :-)

Ernie, I have sent you a PM. Josef

Well, 10 off would be definitely an advantage, no doubt. Just for information, Michael is now sending me a pattern of pipe for 1930 Master engine, so feel free to contact me for details at pepcak@volny.cz. Josef

Mike, I believe we talked about this some time ago, was the price I proposed plus postage prohibitive to you? I never heard from you afterwards. Josef from Czech Republic

This is my plate !!! :-) I do not think it was ever plated... One local company is making them here, but its not cheap, could easily be in range of the ebay plate linked by Leif. The main cost is (I believe) in the work of drafter who translates the real thing into computer format. Would someone else be interested it such a plate?

I have the same hold downs on 1928 Buick.

seems the original post is 10 years old....

I remember one Peerless from Czech Republic few years ago - unfortunately I found only this not-very-nice picture. I am not even sure if it was 6 or 8...

My limited experience with 1928 Master model says that Buicks built in US / Canada were mechanically identical, i.e. parts from engine and chassis interchange almost 100%. Canadian built cars have own serial (or chassis) numbers, but engine numbers are part of row of numbers issued for plates for US built engines. That suggests that at least engine assemblies were exported to Canada from US. Dave Corbin on this page is a guru and can give better / detailed picture how scheme worked. I understand that these 2 were almost identical from early 20s on. To the cost increase by transportation you suggest - if the Canadian output was 1/30 of US volume then very likely cost of transportation was still less than to tool the car (castings, sheet metal parts) in Canada and ammortise that investment into significantly smaller amount of products.

I would be interested to buy that #7 aftermarket mirror, let me please know if we can make a deal. Josef

Funny enough, the bumper is almost untouched....

To me the rear axle and the front axle right at the picture are matching. If you say they do not match to those on your car, do you mean dimensionally? Parts for Standard Buick should be same in design / working principle but always noticeable smaller than Master. If you say they are different geometrically or functionally then they are different year. To me you have enough material to TRY swap hubs with drums only to your existing axles or even swap the whole axles. Provided it dimensionally and geometrically fits, for sure I can talk only about 28 Master and all these seems older than that. Rear hub always move with drive shaft, I do not know anybody who succeded to split them...

I have no proof of it, but it seems very likely so. My 1928 part lists for Master says "ASH wire wheels" as an option, (also Tuarc disc wheels!) but the nuts says "Buffalo Wire Wheel #A5". And my wire wheels are correct ones, I had 5 of them on the car. All the nuts are the same all round, inner ones right hand thread, outer ones left hand thread.

If you get the correct wheels (21" Buffalo Wire wheel #A5 also known as ASH wire wheel) you need also the set of hubs (2 rear should fit the same drive shaft - ar least on Master they do) and 2 front. Rear bearings are the same (ball bearings for Master), not sure about the front ones (cups and cones). You would also need set of 8 bronze nuts, 4 inners and 4 outers as shown on Leifs picture. Brake drums are also unique, but can be adapted from drums used for wood wheels (weld all the holes and machine new ones). This wheel (with risen hub, 48inner spokes and 24 outers) is in another thread, see http://forums.aaca.org/f165/wire-wheels-1925-master-292568.html.

The engine is Master as you know. I have the same wheel with raised hub on my 1928 Master (21"), they are known as ASH wire wheels (per parts list) but the nuts are engraved Buffalo Wire Wheels #A5, with interchangeable (riveted) car manufacturer insert. For sure you would need also rear hubs for wire wheels for your conversion. They should fit (at least on 1928 Master) on the same drive shafts. Brake drums can be modified from those for wood wheels. Do you have 4 wheels or just those 2 on pictures?

Hi, definitely 1927 Buick with goddess rad cap and Buick hubcaps. Bumper is aftermarket, sure. The roof has been modified (seems to be quite thick) and the third window seems to be changed too.

This is what I have on 1928 Master. Sorry for the poor quality pctures.

Guys, I have evaluated my possibilities and due to exchange rate I cannot offer better price than USD 350 plus postage. Have pattern only for 4 legged 28 Master pipe, michaelod was going to send 1929 / 30 pattern pipe over. If still interested, please write to my e-mail, we can discuss the details. Josef