Walt G

Really neat find! thanks for sharing this, if you do get it to Hershey where are your spaces so we can see it?

Once again the CCCA will have its yellow and white striped tent at the Hershey Flea market. Chocolate Field South section , Row J spaces 31 thru 36. Please stop by and say hello, both CCCA and non members will be welcome . On thursday October 5 at 10 am will be the annual members meeting please attend and find out what is going on, meet your officers and directors. Your National Directors want to hear what you have to say ! Please stop in and by doing so you will show your support to CCCA in its 65th Anniversary year. We will have at least one enthusiastic member there at the meeting from Europe. Hope to see you there, it will be a pleasure to say hello . Walt Gosden National Director CCCA

Wonderful photographs, thanks for posting, NEAT CARS!

Hopefully a friend in CCCA from Illinois will bring me the proper metal tread caps for the spare tires for my model 733 Packard. I would like to find a pair of good used 600 x 20 tires for the sidemounts but the tires can't be to wide or the covers won't fit . A few tools to add to the tool kit for that car as well. One item (body /cowl tag) for a custom coach builder i don't have to add to my collection would be nice, and any issues of Autobody magazine (1921-31) and souvenir catalogs for the NY custom body salon (only need 1921 and 1924 to complete my run) . I will have a small pile of Franklin (1923 - 1933 ) instruction books (including a minty copy for the V12) and some for Pierce Arrow as well (1930-32) for sale for those who are looking for those on their wish list.

I always keep the hood on my car closed, but will open it to show interested people what the motor looks like. The most memorable instance of this was about 2 years ago when I was at a local cruise night with my 1936 Packard std 8 club sedan. Several fellows who had newer cars, modifieds, but obviously worked on their own machinery, were looking at my car which is completely stock. We started a conversation and they asked to see the motor. I opened the hood and they were really interested and asked intelligent questions. So, there I was standing with about 4 guys who all had long hair, some braided, lots of tattoos, etc. when one of them said "Wow, its a straight eight" all the other guys who were his friends nodded and looked further, I was taken aback at the comment, but my 20 year old son poked me with his elbow when he noted my reaction and told me "DAD, THINK ABOUT IT, THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN A STRAIGHT EIGHT BEFORE, BUT THAT'S ALL YOU OWN". The kid was right.

Hey Chris EXCELLENT, great follow up. Our family had a 1960 Plymouth when new and that too had the push button transmission. It was a great feature and never gave any trouble , a favorite Uncle of mine had a 1962 Dodge when new, and that had the same push button feature. He was my favorite uncle because he was the only one in the family that didn't think I was nuts because I liked old cars ! Thanks again for making the effort to do and share this with all of us. Walt

If there were 150 people registered for that trek then perhaps 175-200 were produced. Every person who attended did not get one, there would have been one per family , ie if Dad registered and brought along his wife and 12 kids, they would have only received the one souvenir. If I recall the molds for the 10th trek souvenir were located, and reworked to note the 25th trek information. I will have one of these, like you just bought for sale at my spaces at Hershey (Red Field RNG 10-11 ) as well a a good selection of Franklin instruction books/owners manuals for the series 10 thru 17.

Great video, most enjoyable, well edited and filmed. As the creator/host/producer for a for the local volunteer community cable tv studio I can sincerely appreciate all your time and effort that goes into your production and thought of how to present this . JOB WELL DONE, please keep it up.

Bob got that one right in his comment

I totally agree with what SC38DLS stated, especially " Time is short for all of us and we need to do what will give us the most pleasure in the short time we have left at this age " Three times in my life health wise, "tomorrow" was at best a long shot, the most recent a little over a year ago. It is your choice no one elses.

To the best of my knowledge no build records of Brewster exist for that period. If you can take some of the door trim caps off you may find a number stamped underneath. I know Brewster did that with the bodies they built for Rolls Royce . If you can remove any of the wood and do see a number check to see if other pieces have the same number. Did Brewster use a stock Plymouth dashboard when they built this body, or just the gauge panel or? Same question applies to the firewall, was this stock 1932 Plymouth PB or ? Comparison with a stock Briggs body would give you a better picture of what was common with the regular Plymouth line.

Once again my friend Matt Harwood has sage advice on what to own, and why, I couldn't have said it better myself! Always make sure you have one car you can use and enjoy and create memories with while you work on the "project". When you get frustrated working on your project you will always have one to take for a ride and then think, "that's why I am working on this other car, so it can go down the road like this one".

Excellent comments so far. I am not sure if the Ford would be more reliable, if a car is well sorted out to start with then there should be no issue of reliability (especially the wiring, a lot of collectors ignore 80+ year old wire and think if it looks ok, leave it alone and it will be fine , it won't be) Both cars have excellent club support. I have never belonged to the Model A Ford Club but know people who do and they are very happy. The Buick Club of America I do belong to and they are just great. Join a local chapter if there is one, you will get amazing support and the friendship is wonderful. How much work would you do on the car yourself? If you get the old paint cleaned off and the car in primer (even if it is from rattle cans in a sandable primer) you will save yourself a ton of $ when you give it to someone to paint. I totally agree about careful inspection of the structural wood framework for the body, if it looks bad and you do not have the tools or skill to make the repairs - walk away.

Hey Willie, the bucket list car I bought is a 1930 Packard standard eight seven passenger touring car. It apparently was restored in the late 1970s, took and AACA 1st place award in 1982 ( has an oval badge that says that , that I keep in the glove box) and after being a trailer queen for a few years rested in excellent storage conditions until 2016. A former owner wrote to a friend of mine when he inquired about the vin numbers on the car in 2000 that "we don't use it much as it is to pristine". Well slowly (as I could afford to have it worked on) everything has been gone through mechanically so I have a reliable road car now. Cosmetics look they were done last week and are almost 40 years old. The car had to be a pretty solid original as the panel and door fit is amazing, no turnbuckles inside the doors to pull back corners due to warp etc. Oil pressure is 32 lbs when driving, 27 lbs at idle, steers really easy, stops on a dime. I will most likely never ever put it in competition for awards etc have no interest in that, I like to drive them. I did replace the trippe lights and stone guard with more appropriate and period factory correct units. The local Community public service cable tv station is taping a drive report on it that should be done the end of Sept. it will be available to be seen on the internet, so will let you know when its done. On;y know the cars history back to 1977 when it was supposed to have been bought out of an ad in Cars & Parts magazine, I looked in those magazines but have not found the ad. It is an early car, most likely sold in October of 1929 and has body # 23 (the 23rd seven passenger std 8 touring sold for that model year) .

I am very happy for you, we all have bucket list cars, and like you I have been fortunate over the decades to be able to enjoy several of the cars I dreamed about but never thought I would ever own. I bought my last bucket list car in June 2016, and I am now enjoying it after some major sorting out mechanically since the car basically went unused since it was restored in 1980. My advice to all is if you can step up somehow to buy your dream car, do it. Enjoy life while you can.

Thanks so much for the excellent photos. I see at least two good friends cars in the line up that I had time to visit with at the CCCA annual meeting in Reno this past March. Hope their weather stays clear for the rest of the event. It is pretty soggy here on long island with heavy rain and thunder and lightning .

I have for decades looked for and purchased , when I could , the souvenir catalogs for the New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and San Francisco custom body salons. I use these for research to write articles and thus share the information I have with others when the articles are published. I would like to buy original copies of the New York salon catalogs (held in the Hotel Commodore) for 1921 and 1924. these are the only years for that show I do not have. I do have photo copies of the two years but they are not good enough to scan and use images from. Anyone out there have these two they would part with? I have three duplicates of salon catalogs I would trade to get the ones I need , plus other literature. Please send me a pm if you can help! Thanks Walt Gosden

Crank hole cover is SOLD

When I had my PI, my mentor on things RR was Joe Star of Roslyn Heights , NY. Joe had a PII town car that was bought new by the Gardner family of Gardner's Island off long island. Any who Joe explained , as was mentioned, the Alloy cylinder heads did not like the anti freeze solution and after decades from the inside out would start to deteriorate, the bits of alloy that started to circulate in the cooling system would clog the radiator cores. So not only did you have to buy a new cylinder head or try to have one repaired, you had to also go for a radiator core. The replacement bodies that I mentioned were equal to the bodies they replaced as they were built and fitted by Brewster and fenders, lamps, etc all fitted by Brewster as well in their factory in Long Island City at the foot of the Queensboro Bridge (aka as the 59th Street Bridge, and Ed Koch Bridge) Ed you are correct the photo you showed was of a York roadster, not a Henley, my brain said York but fingers typed Henley!

I had a Springfield RR trouville town car with Brewster Body (S74PM) . Brewster built the style under license from Hibbard and Darrin who first designed it. I bought it from my friend Lew Smith of Garden City, NY. Lew had about 5 Springfield PI RR's over the years , all 1927 iron cylinder head cars. The trouville (town car) body on mine was the second body, the first was a very tall perpendicular limousine. It seems that in 1933 the Brewster body company was taking PI Springfield cars and updating them . They replaced the earlier bodies with the lower profile coachwork that was in style in 1933, replaced the head and tail lights with the CM Hall units, changed fender lines from the rounded style popular in 1927 to the long flowing style like the ones that Ed shows on the Henley. They did keep the firewall, and also the German Silver radiator shell and shutters (all the rest of the car in the change over was chrome plated) I have a large color sales catalog issued by RR/Brewster and it is date stamped 1933, shows the Henley etc. that I am guessing they used to promote an upgrade styling wise to RR owners. I found 55 mph a comfortable cruising speed in my PI. I owned the car for 11 years, loved it, but was in denial that I actually fit comfortably behind the wheel. The fixed front seat and my long legs just combined to be a bit cramped. I have tons of original period John Adams Davis photographs of RR's but no time to post, just to backed up in my research and writing for CCCA and HCC.

Thanks for the update, as many who read this may have old cars for some years they can appreciate what you have just related to us. For the newer collectors in the hobby who read this i hope it is a reality check - just because an old car looks good, and seems to be a solid car doesn't mean it shouldn't have a thorough check out to make sure all is working well. Even if something looks like it is working well, it should be checked out so you can say to your self as of a certain date/time I know it had been gone through. I bought a 1930 Packard over a year ago that received a very high end restoration in the late 1970s, took an AACA first place award in 1982 then was in two collections since and rarely used "because it was to pristine" . It had ideal heated storage, so looked like it had been restored within the past year not 35+ years ago. Started right up, had great oil pressure, etc etc. Well I had it sorted out mechanically over a period of some months (as I could afford to pay the invoices!) by someone I trusted. It needed considerable effort to make it a reliable driver - one example , the headlamp bulbs when turned on were very very dim, checking the contact surfaces where you get the two surfaces to slide to make contact to choose park, hi, low beam saw the brass contacts badly tarnished from sitting and lack of use. Cleaned those up and the bulbs shined brightly. May you have many hours of pleasurable driving in your Hudson pick up , it is a really handsome truck.

I have an excellent original crank hole cover that should fit the 1930 series 14 thru 1933 series 16b for sale. Original plating and black enamel is excellent. Clip on back to snap into center bar of shell is excellent. If you want a photo of both sides send me a PM and your email and I will send to you. Price is $150 ppd (USA only) which is less then the cost to have the enamel redone on one.

I can't help you for 1933 but I have a sales item printed on newsprint published by the Auburn Automobile Company for 1935 that states "Auburn Again Sets New Records." I am guessing it was a item they published in mass but left a space at the bottom rear page so the local Auburn dealerships could be listed for each section of the country the sales /newspaper was sent to. Since it is on newsprint the paper was a "throw away" item and if it was saved most likely it perished due to the fragile composition of the paper. Anyway this lists all the dealers for the New York counties of Queens, Kings, Bronx, Richmond , plus long island New York (suburban - ie Westchester county) Connecticut and New Jersey. the New York City (Manhattan) dealer was : Meyer-Wright, Inc. 1792 Broadway at 58th street NY NY ; Auburn Sales Co. inc. Distributors Wholesale Offices, Maintenance, Parts : 621 West 56th Street, NY NY

Had never seen this issue before as mentioned by others who replied, very very happy to see it return to the way it was. GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is pretty bad, please return to the former format, it took to much time to even figure out how to post this! I agree with C Carl. I don't need all the face icons, and it seemed much simpler to read the way it used to be.