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I agree you don't need that wire........here is a link that you may find helpful........if this doesn't answer all your questions, nothing will. Parts diagrams are at the bottom, and very helpful. https://oldcroak.com/bosch-du1-du2-du4-du6-early-pre-ww1/

1931 Cadillac V-8 is very similar.

As far as "slow" cars are concerned. Back in the 30's and 40's most VMCCA and AACA meets had the slowest car contest to cross the field.......sometimes passengers would hold a tray with champigne while the cars were driven over sand bags......all while going at less than a walking pace. Car events sure have changed. We won't mention the balance table.........

Here is the published information on the 1917. Not much compared to other years. Notice it has an additional component tied in with the magneto and may be why something is jumped or bypassed. 12 volt car......interesting. Not much published on Simms........but they are so basic that it shouldn't be any trouble.

Ask your wife.....she will agree with me....you're too old. Besides your hearing aids and false teeth will rattle out of your head from the vibration. I expect the road kill you call a toupee is glued on with 3 M super adhesive? So that will probably stay in place. Be sure to bring extra depends.

Add a few more to your list......there are two or three of them tucked away and not known in the northeast. No idea if they are the long or short version.....they all were bought as a package and never finished.

Fun car......but tiny. Notice the gas pedal on the oppisite side of the transmission tunnel. It sure would be fun to launch it a few times.......but we are al getting too old for it....

Modifying an exhaust system is a violation of the clean air act.......and big brother is getting very active on ANY car, truck, or motorcycle that is OBDII and they have no sense of humor. They have been making examples of them lately. Also, today's exhaust systems will easily go 250k and more......no incentive for an expensive piece of equipment that takes up space. Also, your average under car tech can't weld, nevermind get a system to fit properly and weld on hangers....... Midas mechanics are unusually gifted at fabricating the dual exhaust systems used on the new Tesla's. 😏

Anyone want to try and crank a Pierce 66? We will get drinks, popcorn, and an ambulance ready for the entertainment.

My 1921 hollow block garage in Florida will fit a Model T, but nothing else. Even then, it's tight. Over the years most have been extended longer, and will fit a modern mid size car. You would think a three bedroom home in 21 would have had a larger garage.

White that may be true, oversize is always better. 😎

Shortcuts now will only tear it up. It sucks, but pull the engine from the car, place it on a stand, and drop the pan to start.

Dave is correct.........it made sense for stocking purposes to just sell the dual instead of the single. The DU4 is the most common and reliable magneto ever made.....it should be easy to service and find parts. There are several well known rebuilders, most are busy and weeks to months out.......

Best wishes for the good doctor, and best of luck with the sale. Thanks for sharing the car and it's story.......... and a perfect ending is a sale and restoration. 👍

For years Egge pistons were junk.........now they no longer make their own pistons according to some articles, so you may as well go direct to Ross, Aries, and the others. I wouldn’t bother with off oversizes. Going to standard oversized is fine. Be sure to talk to the Franklin guys with experience and mileage for clearance on the air cooled spectrum.

One of my favorite things in the hobby is walking into a garage of collection and seeing something that is “new” to me. After all these years, they tend to be the “middle priced” cars..........all of the big horsepower stuff is seen regularly. The 1916-1928 era of mid priced off brand cars is really a unique spot in the hobby. Sadly we rarely see these fine built but unusual cars at shows or on tour.

That’s a very reasonable explanation.

In my humble opinion, a very over rated platform. I was not impressed. Another legend that when driven, makes you yearn for something else.

Its interesting how people define rare. I look at a Pierce Arrow, and it seems commonplace to me.....after looking at them for well over fifty years. We bought three Pierce cars in the last few weeks, and expect to buy two more. All of them will get cut up for parts.......all are way beyond practical restoration. Is it a loss that some cars go away, to keep a few dozen others on the road? At the Palm Beach Concours today, this under educated imbecile with a trust fund was causing problems with his F-50. He thought it was the only car in the world. He kept talking about the serial number and it’s value. He didn’t like my comment that any idiot with a check book can have as many of them as they can pay for. I suggested he try and buy something unique. It didn’t get through.

Tom, It's safe to say he is an anomaly in collecting. That said, I have had a chance to talk to him one on one, and he is "ok" in my book. Super successful people can and do have strange habits and their lives tend to be "out of the box". Some people are hard to define....he is one of them.

I have never followed the surviving cars closely. What I was led to believe may be incorrect. It was my understanding that there were two “correct cars”.........take that with a grain of salt. I was told there was one “floor sweepings” car. About eight years ago, it was my understanding that all three were in the same collection, but I only saw two of them at that time and managed a ride........another long story, to make it short I jumped in the car while it was coming off a trailer and being put “away”. So I managed a ride of about two or three tenths of a mile..........It was implied at the time the car probably wouldn’t be out of the shop running for a very long time...........that’s why I jumped in to their annoyance figuring I was my last chance in my lifetime to gat a ride. Please don’t post names or location details..........don’t want to irritate anyone. Maybe someone knows the history of all three/four cars? If so, please comment if you are able without disclosing names/places of current owners.

A few comments......... There is a lot more engineering in a radiator than most people realize....... The engineers back in the day knew what they were doing......... The ability to cool the car needs to be put back to what it originally was......with the “factory padding”.......... I would try and keep the new core looking fairly close to what it once was......... I would not chose based on price......600 dollars matters, but the unit needs to do its job...... It can take a long time to get a recore job done........start it ASAP........ Pull the pump and check on it while everything is apart.......... A correct core for “big cars” runs from 5-8K and more.........540K Mercedes is around 30 grand. The numbers you are quoting seem very reasonable........ Best of luck with your project, it sounds like you have things well in hand.

Hi Charley, I remember well the first time I saw a Chadwick. It made quite an impression. They are large and unique. Sadly I think all of them now are in one collection......and they don’t get out much anymore.

Looks nice. Trucks from that era are particularly slow. There is little demand or market for them. They tend to be more popular overseas. Most projects like the REO are a labor of love.....and not a motive for profit. What’s it worth? Only you can say what your willing to offer for it. I would tell the seller take any offer you get, as you’re not going to get a second offer. Three grand, five grand, eight grand......... I doubt the truck would bring over ten.......but one never knows. Is there an asking price?

The technical name for the rubber drive doughnut is a Hardy Disk. They are common to drive water pumps and magnetos. You can use leather also. I made these for my Bosch magneto on my 1917 White. Took a few tries to get them perfect. They came out nice. You cut them when they are dry, and then soak them in Neatsfoot oil for a few hours.