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  1. Ok, we've decided that there is a cult following for KK's, and I can probably conclude at this point that anyone who doesnt own some stock in either Harley Davidson or KK is borderline un-America. Got a co-worker who lives just around the corner and brings in some hot KKs once each week so I have no probs getting by regular dose. But, there is one other treat out there that only a very select few get to regularly enjoy - <P>WHITE CASTLE HAMBURGERS!!!! I understand they don't franchise <P>Waiting patiently for the meet or tour that features a Friday nite social with some of those gems! Anybody else out there similarly addicted? <P>Terry
  2. Thought you'd like to hear from the current VP of National Activities on the subject. When the tour in Topeka was proposed, they selected that age range for the same reason a lot of others select certain tours - it simply allows the greater majority of their own members to participate. In my two years on the job Ive not had any indication they've had their arms twisted or felt confined by the age limits for participation. A Divisional Tour can set the limits - either number of particpants, vehicle, etc. We almost had one out west a while back that was strictly for antique motorcycles!<P>Im sorry folks won't be able to tour their way across country to do the Reliability, but the Topeka tour was approved before we had a taker for the reliability, so there certainly was no ability to think in terms of treating it as a leg across the country enroute to the Reliability or Hershey. It would have been a great opportunity.<P>Howard, it is unfortunate there is not a Western Divisional Tour scheduled in 2002. I can understand your frustration since the age limits have more impact than would normally be the case. I hope that this discussion helps stir some interest as we have additional openings in the future.<P>You are correct about Special Tours - the idea has surfaced previously from many members and was eloquently proposed by Ron Springstead up in NY right here on the DF a while back. We did approve the ability to hold one additional "Special Tour" in a Division. This is very similar to our "Special National Meet" idea. This should work especially well in some of our very large geographic areas such as the West and Central Divisions. For example, We already have a Divisional Tour in the works for Texas, and they have expressed interest in hosting more in the future. So, rather than tell the folks further up north they can't have a Divisional Tour because all the future events are going to be in Texas, we now have the ability to allow them to host a "Special" so long as it does not conflict. What a perfect way for a Region to celebrate an important anniversary, or honor a historic event!!!<P>I certainly agree that age cut-offs have the effect of exclusion and we do take that into consideration when discussing these events. Earl can best articulate the rationale behind the Sentimental Tour concept, and it is indeed something some folks would like to see elevated into full-fledged National Tour stature. Additional thoughts on that would certainly be appreciated.<P>Thanks for the input, keep it comin!<P>PS - I have plenty of blank tour applications if anyone is interested.<P>Terry
  3. Guess I should look at this forum a little more often - didn't realize our Virginian had done so much research and posted such an informative addition - thanks Bennie!<P>Like Bennie, if you've done your research of the law and are convinced you are doing things correctly, then "motor-on!" Id recommend printing a copy of the law however and carrying it around in your car. Ive found that some police officers are in the same category as DMV clerks when it comes to the specifics. <P>Here's a story relayed to me by a fellow old car nut a while back that illustrates part of the problem. While standing in line at the local DMV office to get his drivers license renewed, the guy in front of him was observed trying to transfer (modern) plates to a vehicle he'd just acquired. The DMV clerk looked at his paperwork and excitedly informed him "Gee, this is a 1963 Ford - you qualify for Antique tags." When the guy asked "what does that do for me" he was simply told "there is just a one-time fee and you don't have to renew your tags each year or get inspections." "Sure" was the obvious response, and upon leaving, my friend saw him wiring the new black and white Antique Vehicle tags onto his 1963 Ford station wagon. The wagon had the back top cut off to make it into a truck. It had ladder racks welded onto the passenger side, and it was splattered with so many different colors of paint you couldnt tell what color it was originally. The guy was a painter and this was indeed his work truck! <P>Abuse? Well, the owner of the vehicle didn't think so. He did what he was told. However the average citizen spots this vehicle on the road and automatically sees abuse. It places our continued use of these tags at risk when stuff like that happens.<P>Some "abuse" is due to ignorance and some is intentional, and its done by antique car folks, the general public and yes, probably even some street rod guys. But the question in my original post was "how are clubs handling it?" Example - our most recent newsletter contained a one page summary of the licensing and usage restriction laws and it was recommended that everyone carry it in the car with them. In fact, its probably not too bad an idea to carry a couple of extra copies to give to folks like the painter. <P>I was curious about the Virginia Street Rod tag too - are many of them being used? If I owned a neat 29 A tall-cab truck like the one I saw last night in downtown Portsmouth I'd probably have Street Rod tags proudly displayed on it (don't know what kind of tags it had, but it's welcome in my drive-way anytime!) <P>My original question was about North Carolina tags and we've not had any NC folks check in with the info. Still curious.<P>So, it's not about Rods vs Antique - its about protecting the priviledges we've all fought hard for and enjoy and we all share responsibility to protect what we've got. Bottom line - read the law, follow the law, if it doesn't work, theres a way to change the law. Hopefully our clubs offer a good way to help get the word out to their members.<P>I know we have at least one legislator keeping an eye on this, It would be great if we had that person's thought, opinions, and proposed solutions to ponder and provide some feedback on. <P>Terry
  4. And probably the biggest movie goof was the historic British comedy film "Genivive," about the London to Brighton Run. Its a superb film if you like early cars but the star of the film, the Spyker, was subsequently investigated by the Veteran Motor Car Club and found to be incorrectly dated. It was actually ineligible to participate in the run! <P>Back to the Godfather - I had the pleasure of living in Sicily for two years courtesy of the USN. Took advantage of the chance to learn all I could about the land and of course one of their most famous export products - the mafia. Even got to travel to places used in filming the movie. Yes, there really is a village in the mountains called Corleone, and it was used in the movie extensively. Very quiet village that apparently has not had an American tourist there since the movie was produced. I expected to be able to buy a T shirt to commemorate my visit but no such luck.
  5. I guess it depends on how you define automatic transmission, but Im surprised nobody has mentioned the Model T yet - very simple, no gears to clash, just a couple of pedals. Once I get my 14 into hi, its good-to-go. Now if you are talking about a transmission that shifts all by itself, then thats a different ball-game. The ol "T" hasn't done that yet!<BR>Terry
  6. For info, here is how the Code of Virginia defines "Antique Automobile." <P>"Antique Motor Vehicle" means every motor vehicle...which was actually manufactured or designated by the manufacturer as a model manufactured in a calendar year not less than 25 years prior to January 1 of each calendar year and is owned solely as a collector's item."<P>The Code of Virginia defines "Street Rod" as <BR>"...modernized private passenger motor vehicles either manufactured prior to 1949 or designed or manufactured to resemble vehicles manufactured prior to 1949." I'm not sure how/why the 1949 year was chosen as a cutoff. Perhaps there should be some efforts made to get it changed? <P>Maybe clubs or car club councils in various states can use these as a basis to help legislators change laws as necessary for the benefit of all enthusiasts.<BR>Terry
  7. Thanks Bruce, thats an example of how keeping it simple can be very positive for everyone. Hey, just noticed my earlier post was as an "unregistered user." Obviously not the case, guess I just forgot to log-in. E-mail me at home when you have a chance, lets talk about trying to get a few more national activities scheduled out your way! Terry
  8. If the weather guessers are like are like around here, then dont worry. I discovered a major problem recently when driving past the National Weather Center station in Wakefield Va - there are no windows on the building! How can anyone effectively tell the weather when they can't see it??? The weather? - enjoy it, it's the only weather youve got! See ya at Hershey (rain or shine!)<BR>Terry
  9. I love the mud, the mist in the morning, the smell of chocolate in the air, all the greasy food, the bluegrass music in the evening, the sunshine when it happens, the fellowship and finding bargains. Its the worlds greatest automobila museum. Its our superbowl and world series rolled into one. I'll be there - easy to spot, Im the guy with the big Christmas-morning grin on my face and a drop of mustard on my shirt and mud on my boots. Its magic. Its Hershey!<BR>ENJOY!!!!<BR>Terry
  10. Thanks also from this end for Nelson - he answered my ? about the missing row on the map. He and Mary do a lot for AACA as well as Hershey Region!<BR>Terry
  11. Just thought it would be neat to have a little peak at whats in your trailers - might just save some walking time - anybody got any early automotive related sheet music unusual early spark plugs, or old time counter-top garage display items from the teens or twenties??? Let me know and I'll see you early. I'll have the usual small dose of early T parts, some misc literature and some early automobilia. Stop by and say hi! Terry, WWA 26-27 - and hey everybody-<P>DONT FORGET TO BRING YOUR RED-WHITE & BLUE to proudly display!!!!
  12. Yup, the white field map I received in the mail is exactly like the one on the web site too - however row WWA is left off - thats where my spaces are! WWA 26-27. My contacts in Hershey Region confirmed that row was inadvertently omitted when the maps were produced/distributed, so Im kinda surprised they are still using that "damaged"<BR>map. I hope they have had a chance to correct the program prior to it being printed.<BR>Terry
  13. Well, its a good attempt - however the White Field map is incorrect. Row WWA (the back row up against the hill) has been left off of the map. <BR>Terry
  14. The tendency here is to want to write something very profound, however I can find no words more profound that the words to our National Anthemn. <P>My son has just been assigned to NY City, he is US Coast Guard damage control/Hazmat specialist and Paramedic assigned to the Atlantic Strike Team in NJ. Please keep him and his team in your prayers as they join our other heros there helping.<P>God Bless America and all her people. We are still "...the land of the free, and the home of the brave."<P>Terry
  15. No - you all have it totally wrong. The problem is NOT with the mirror - it is the WINDSHIELD. It quite simply should not have ever been attached to the mirror - thats why the very earliest of cars NEVER had windshields!!! Please try to think like a lawyer!<BR>Terry
  16. Wow - Al, thanks! Some super stuff, Im typing as fast as I can! So much great info that I even forgot I had to write Krispy Kreeme and get their permission to include them in the brochure. This is a great thread!
  17. I just had an interesting conversation with our good friend Neil, who helped Ivan handle trouble truck duty for the Founders tour. I wanted to tell them about this thread so perhaps they'll kick in some thoughts from that point of view, but to summarize, it seems that a lot of the individual breakdowns on a tour are maintenance related. It points out a need to give some prep time and attention to the vehicles before ever leaving home. Now thats an individual thing, but it is so important Im going to add a few lines on the topic to our new "Touring Brochure." I also think its worth a reminder from tour organizers to remind participants early-on that they need to perform routine maintenance - change hoses, belts, top off fluids, check brakes, steering, etc just to help prevent problems. <P>I think one of the best things is to have a roll back available to either shadow the tour and be a presence. Its very reassuring to know that if you do break down you won't be stuck roadside or in a dangerous situation. Please keep in mind that the trouble truck is not there to do routine maintenace on your vehicles (that should have been done before you left home). <P>Another helpful hint is for tour organizers to line up some potential resources for emergency repairs,or spare parts- perhaps even after hours. Most every club has some sympathetic mechanics in their territory that can be relied on to assist in emergency situations. Neil told me about a kind Ford dealer that ended up replacing some leaf springs on a 63 Ford on the tour - now thats extra special service! <P>One thing that is often overlooked is Checkpoints. There should be some kind of a checkpoint near the end of the days touring so you ensure that everyone is accounted for. There will always be those who decide to turn left instead of right, or as in my case, make frequent unscheduled stops at the local antique markets, but there should be some way to determine if someone has gone missing. <P>And, its important to allow for a little free time in the evenings to do some en-route parking-lot maintenance if necessary, or even just to wash the dust off. <P>As far as the bus-tour thing goes, I think it all depends on the attraction and the situation - but if at all possible, driving the old cars is what its all about. Perhaps one day can be set aside and three or four "optional" events can be scheduled. <P>Its also worth reminding folks to be security minded. There is a criminal element out there that might view us as ideal targets - strangers in town, lots of money (Gee, if you can afford an antique car you gotta be rich!) So, its advisable to stick together in groups, stick with the suggested tour routes, and schedules, and be cautious. Id also suggest staying with the recommended motels - host or otherwise. Some folks like to save a few bucks by picking a motel "around the corner" but its not always the best choice unless you really know the neighborhood. <P>Keep the thoughts and ideas flowing!!!<BR>Terry
  18. A great thread here - I think Keep It Simple is the thought we need to emphasize. Some of the best events Ive attended have allowed time to socialize, kick some tires, stop at the Krispy kreeme shop, do a little antique hunting, see some sites and enjoy the company of fellow members. We have to allow for that at both tours and meets. That'll make them less work/stress and it just might encourage some new groups to consider hosting something like this. Ive run into some resistance from potential event sponsors because they cant "outdo" the last one. It ain't necessary! <P>I wasnt able to attend the Founders Tour, darned thing called "work" got in the way, but I understand it was a super good time with plenty to see. I think we all tend to try and do too much some times, and sometimes end up anxious to get back to work to recover from our weekends. <P>Keep this thread going - as mentioned sometime previously in another thread, we are preparing a new AACA Touring Brochure - its the counterpart to our Exhibitors Brochure. It will help inform first time participants about AACA touring, what it is, what to expect, and how to get the most out of the experience. We'll also incorporate some of this info into our AACA Touring Guidlines in the Policy and Procedure Manual so future tour chairpersons can benefit from our discussion here.<BR>Thanks,<BR>Terry
  19. Well, while all his was going on I was searching for a picture of a "Tourist" as that was my initial ID, however I now feel the car may be a Queen, approx 1906/7. However, Ive not found a suitable picture of a Queen from that era so I'll just have to hang around the DF and let you guys tell me why it ain't one.<BR>Terry
  20. Not sure what the "cost of living/playing" is in your area but $20 plus $5 for some additional passengers sounds kinda steep. Im no cheapskate but dont ever recall going to a show someplace that charges for extra people in the car. Are you raising money for a charity? Or making a profit on us? Is the public charged an admission?<BR>Just curious.
  21. Hi Ron, good to hear of your interest in touring, you are in a super area and I expect there would be a lot of interest - so much history, and some wonderful old car folks too! <P>There are plenty of open dates for tours, depends really on when you are interested (year) and what kind of tour. Please e-mail me separately with your mailing address and I'll send you a package of material with a listing of scheduled events, info on touring, the appropriate sections from the PPM, and once you've had a chance to read over it all, get back w/me and we'll talk further. Tours are not difficult, plenty of fun and increasing in popularity.<P>I like your suggestion of getting the PPM on line, but its a pretty lengthy document and there is probably much more there than anyone wants to wade through to get a few simple ? answered. We have an exhibitors brochure that answers most questions about national meets, and Im nearly finished with a companion brochure which describes AACA's tours, how to participate and what to expect. It'll be out later in the year, and Im going to see about getting both of those documents on the web. <P>Your idea about sharing our knowledge and experience is great too - in fact Ive picked up seminar info, etc. from this DF so anything we get here could help us with some fine tuning. I know there are several past tour chairpersons who monitor the forum, so I also want to encourage those thoughts and ideas.
  22. How about DFers getting together at the motorcycles about 1:30?<BR>Terry
  23. Sounds like its for a Model T and with the large red lens it would be a tail light. It wont hurt to clean it up and put in on your book shelf as its a fairly common item. Its probably all steel right? If it has a brass top and door (the ring around the big lens) its for a 1915 Model T and would be a little harder to come by. Otherwise it fits the later T's. <BR>Terry
  24. Guess I'll start the ball rolling - this may cover areas in addition to legislation tho-but its a topic Ive not seen before on the DF. Today while driving to a local shopping center, I came up behind a "replica" of a '40 or so Willys coupe. Mag wheels, fat tires, chopped, lowered, tubbed, flame paint job, etc. etc. in fact Im not even sure it was a replica of a 40' Willys - but Im certain it was at least a coupe. Now the catch - it had ANTIQUE AUTOMOBILE license tags from North Carolina on it. Im in Virginia and see plenty of abuse here, in fact street rod guys even have their own special license tag available but seem not to use them, preferring to go with the Antique Auto Tag instead, probably because it exempts them from state inspection, etc. I am not familiar with the NC laws on license plates. This problem seems to boil down to the clerk at the Motor Vehicle Registration office who tend to just accept whatever people put on the registration forms without question. I wonder how some of those T-bucket roadsters get buy with calling themselves a Model T??? Now please don't mistake my grumbling as a put-down for street rodders, I certainly appreciate the craftsmanship, but lets hear how you, your club, your car club councils, your Dept of Motor Vehicles, or Legislators have dealt with this problem. Is it really up to us individually to police it? There are 50 states out there so there must be at least 50 good ideas on how to prevent such abuse that surely may endanger our ability to continue getting our real antiques properly licensed.<BR>Terry
  25. Great idea! Glad to hear you are doing the Lincoln highway trek - thats one of the neatest stretches! We just had Bob Lichtey come visit Tidewater Region for a talk on the Lincoln Highway, lots of history there and a super back road. Be sure to watch for the old ship hotel ruins. I did this route going out to the Johnstown PA meet recently and it nearly took me an entire extra day due to having my car continually going off the road and pulling up in front of all the wonderful antique shops along the way. Maybe they've restocked their automobilia selection by now! Enjoy!<BR>Terry
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