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The larger Overland is indeed a roomy car. There was a1912 4 cylinder Reo on the Nickel tour and was also an comfortable fit for me.

This car, a 1928 model 48 Coupe, was almost to a point of completion on a good amateur restoration several years ago. Running/driving with new paint, plating, upholstery, new tires etc. The owner then decided to street rod it. He wishes to sell the following. The running gear complete, axles, refinished wood wheels, new WW tires(2002), springs. Also has extra parts, radiator shell, also a 1929 radiator. Fenders, hood, misc. engine parts. He said the engine ran well and did not smoke??. He did not know of the accurate mileage when they bought the car in unrestored original condition. I am just forwarding his information. I believe they are looking for $5,000 OBO. Things were covered up in tight quarters and I was only able to get these photos. If interested contact: John Neville Welles Tannery PA. 814-932-0781 814-685-3646

On our VMCCA tour I crank started several of the cars we rode in. Including Larry's truck. I think both times with one or 2 pulls. I was told years ago to crank left handed so that if there were a kick back the hand and arm are out of the way. If anything the fingers may get a bad rap. Most important was to avoid spinning over the crank (unless you are charging the cylinders). At the 50th anniversary celebration at Allentown I watched a frustrated fellow spinning the crank over and over on a reluctant 2 cylinder 1910 model 14 Buick. It was about 15 minutes before they got it started. All the other Brass, hand cranked cars, were started in short order with minimal effort.

Midman: You are my Hero! I do not know if we discussed my attempts in finding a car as you are speaking of. Marty offered me his 1914 B-37 Buick several years ago. That was after I attempted to buy a similar B-37 in New York. It needed a lot. But it was quite roomy for what I wanted. I also tried to buy a 1915 C-36 roadster. Also very roomy. That fell through and I did document that on the forum. Also the 1913-31 near Pittsburgh. Also the same model in Michigan. Which may still be available. I have still been trying to shake loose a 1910 Model 10 roadster from a family in Va. (You can tell I love these earlier Buicks.) They are concerned that any one who wants it will "Hot Rod it"! Smaller car but what I had always wanted. We need more of these cars in the Mason-Dixon chapter. Good Luck: Larry

Jack: As one who has rebuilt his 37 speedometer it would need to come out. It can be removed from the back of the instrument cluster. Check the 1936-1938 website for Torque Tube Articles on the subject.

Thanks Brian: We need a few photos for the 36-38 club newsletter. It appears that the center section is of one thickness of the Burbank type cloth (same as what the top would have been). The outer perimeter sections have the hard black rubber pieces which reinforce the same material which covers it. That is probably why the outer sections are in better shape. If I had to use this on a car I would probably just have the deteriorated center material replaced. I picked this up from the estate sale of a former member Jack Frank who Had a 1937 Special Phaeton restored in 1990. It achieved all the AACA and BCA awards Grand National etc. I missed getting this car at the sale. It sold for $40,000. I had tried to give the new local owner the BCA sales pitch. He was not interested. He said he will probably not drive it. Just wax it and look at it.. Before the sale they had offered it to me for $30,000. Which I told them if they had let me know last November I could have tried to sell both of my cars. (I still would have been short of their asking price). Jack had a new boot made for the car and had a Burbank cloth bag made for it as well as one for the side supports. His son said that the top had never been folded. The Mason-Dixon Chapter has a photo collection of the car and its awards.

Brian: I will get some more photos. Yes the center section is of a different material. I will take a few close ups inside and out. Only one snap missing on this one.

Brian& Marty: I do have an original boot in its oilcloth bag for a 1937 Special. Looks pretty good. I could lend it out to you. Other than size you could ay least use it for a structural pattern. The reason I would like to hold on to it is that there is still a chance of a 37 Special Phaeton coming available near me.

I have seen documentation that wealthy automobile owners that had a chauffer driven open car had a permanent type top enclosure fitted to the same body. Having a carriage house with a hoist they would make a seasonal change from open to closed and store the top not used.

Without a starter could this be for a Buick Truck?

Jack: At Allentown a gentleman left a note to ask I he could take photos of my defroster hose routing on my 1937-41. When I bought the car in 1987 it had the blank out dash plates left in the glove box.

I was being interviewed by the Chinese journalist and film crew and they had to "cut" when it hit. It reminded me of a bird that would hit a glass patio door. We watched it slide down the screen.

Frank : This is what I made for my car. Try the George McMurtry contact as Mark suggested first..

Thanks Mike: On mine the 3rd member that is shown as 29 1/2" is a double flat with spacing studs for the intermediate socket to pivot and more links as you indicated. I am pretty sure that my sockets were cut down from a model 1922-23 Buick Model 45. They cut the forward socket about 3". Cut and dropped the rear pivot socket about the same. In the up position the top still is about 3" taller than it should be. In the first photo you can see the weld to the right of the strap. The folded stack is quite a mess. That is why I had a boot made to hide this. Also had to add some padding to fill out the boot. Not all cars are well endowed !

Mike : I got excited and posted my photo before I compared to see if all the pieces were the same. This photo was done by Hugh in Texas of his 1925-25 Top. Still it won't hurt to get some other eyes on them. If none of the measurements match at least we will know what they are not for!

Mike : I would be very interested if they are close to the sizes in this photo.

We were at the Macungie PA. car show and flea Market today and did not get home till 10:00. I will dig out my sketch that I worked from to make mine. It is nice having a lathe. If you can not find one I can always make another for you.

Hopefully the new owner will allow us to keep track of the restoration process. I am already sending him information to his email. He is going to send me the engine and frame numbers to verify the year and model of the parts car. So there will be some of these parts available for sale.

I just spent nearly an hour talking to the new owner of the 1923-55. (He does upholstery professionally).I am very pleased that he is planning on doing things correctly. He also indicated that there were many items the seller did not tell me about that came with the car. All the (missing in the photos) parts specific to the Sport Touring that I had questioned him about. There was the complete original top rolled up. All the original side curtains were stretched out and mounted on a piece of ply wood. Some of the original upholstery was underneath two other seat covers. The correct carpet was there also. My son stopped to look over the car and were not shown some of these things. I held to my original offer since it was going to cost over $2,000 to get it and the 1921?1922? parts chassis back to PA. The new owner said that the entire parts chassis had been totally knocked down. Springs down to individual leaves, the wheels to the spokes etc. I did finally ask what he had to give for all. He paid $1,250 less than I offered. Yes, that bothered me but I could understand as he was local and had CASH. At least I know I made a fair offer.

John: Thanks for posting the photos. I watched you sneak around while we were doing the interview. We fought the good fight as I was set on driving it there. In the end we had fellow BCA member Pete Rambis trailer it. The rear carpet is still drying out, even though I had it covered with a canvas tarp. To bad you did not catch the drone crashing into the movie screen. We put another 366 hot miles on the 1937 and it did great. Unfortunately I was not able to get away to meet people who were at my 37 Special. I believe we were all non stop answering questions on our 1920s cars.

Frank: Nice talking with you also. I know that things started to get busy. And then the rains came!!! If you wish I can send the copies I made from the Marvel MODEL T series carb booklet with the complete parts breakdown diagrams. I have to make new copies since the ones I had at the show were soaked. Even though I had a tarp on the car the rain still blew in. The rear carpet is still dripping from the line.

Dave: So sorry we had to cancel. Making it easy for folks to drop in to the group also made it easier for them to drop out. As I told you the week before the meet we still had over 20 participants but only about 11 cars and only 5 that were pre-war. There had been a large group from the 1936-38 club from Indiana, Illinois and Michigan that had cancelled out on coming to the meet entirely the previous week. By Friday morning John Scheib said that number had dwindled to 8 people and 5 cars. That upset all the reservations at all the museums and restaurant stops. I would have loved to continue. I am glad we had some time together and that you were able visit Steam Town. WE will tour again. Larry

John: After spending the night amongst the (2) Model Fs, the 1909 Model G and Larry's Truck, I think they all got together and told my car "kid, straighten up and fly right". We drove Beulah around the grounds for about 15 minutes and she cooperated with no issues. We had many visitors to discuss our Buicks and share information. Several from New Zealand and Australia. By the end of the day we had 10 cars in the 20s group. 2 1923s, 2 1925s, 3 1927s, a 1928 and 2 1929s.

Sorry to say that our Pre-War After Tour tour has been canceled. As of this morning John and I had only 2 other couples who wished to attend. That made 8 people and possibly 4 cars. Last week we had about 20 participants. Most of these had decided not to attend the celebration because of extra expense and travel complications. We thought it would have been a great trip. Possibly at a later date in the fall we can run the routes as a group. Best to all: Larry

Thanks for posting. You find such great stuff!. I called on one Identical to this one advertised on the HCCA website from Ontario CA. He was asking $20,000 and said he could not start it car because of a broken shoulder so he did not know if it still could run. He also said he bought it as a business opportunity to rent out for weddings and movie work. The photos he showed were when it was on a trailer and did not get the pictures I asked for. (I asked for some shots with the top up, undercarriage and engine.) Same colors with vinyl upholstery as the ones he sent me. It may be the same one???? Although this one does look pretty nice even in incorrect colors. The 1913-31 here in PA I offered $15,000 because it did not run, there was a hinted problem with 2nd gear, the clutch was stuck at the time. Also it had a very deteriorated 60 year old restoration with vinyl upholstery. At least the car was in its correct colors (off white with black fenders and correct pin striping),They were holding out for $20,000. I found out that they sold it to someone in western PA. That person spruced it up and went to take it on tour. The first day they lost 2nd gear entirely. I do like to check up on the cars I was not successful on buying to see all the fun I missed.