Guest CHendry Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Need some help. We recently became the owners of this beauty. She has been sitting in a garage for the last 15 years. We are having some trouble finding a 6v battery for it. We have dropped the GAS tank and cleaned it out and the engine isn't seized up. What all needs to be done to get it running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Gorgeous car. I found a good six volt battery for my 1931 Dodge Brothers coupe at WalMart. Edited August 1, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I have a PA never have a problem with batteries go to outlet only selling batteries truckers buy the 6 Volt and put two together to get 12 better cranking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 CHendry, that is a beauty! What's the back story on it? Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARY F Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Tractor supply for 6V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) This car was bought by my dad's great uncle in Albany, N.Y. in 1930, brand new. My dad got it when he passed away. This summer my dad decided to give it to me to enjoy. It has been in two movies: OSCAR and THE WAY WE WERE, we have documentation. Right now we're just trying to get the engine to turn over, I thinking the fuel filter. Edited August 1, 2017 by CHendry Misspell (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) Same family for 87 years! That's pretty cool. This little roadster looks like it should be very easy and affordable to get back up and running. It will be hundreds, not thousands. Change the all fluids, filters, tune up parts (plugs, points, condenser, etc.) you already have the fuel tank cleaned so you should be good to go there. Tires look good but 15 years of sitting means they need to be replaced along with the tubes. I'd hook a power bleeder up to the master cylinder and flush the old brake fluid out, replace with new. Grease all the zirc fittings, new battery and Bingo! it's parade day. Can you share some more pictures of the car? Edited August 2, 2017 by Guest (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Need some help. Car isn't getting any spark. It's good to the distributor and rebuilt the carbourator today. Any suggestion on what to do next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, CHendry said: Need some help. Car isn't getting any spark. It's good to the distributor and rebuilt the carbourator today. Any suggestion on what to do next? No spark coming out of the wires? Maybe the condenser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 How do the spark plug wires look? Are they encased in the steel loom bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Spark plug wires look ok. The casing is still on them and new spark plugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 45 minutes ago, keiser31 said: Are they encased in the steel loom bracket? This tube is what I was meaning by "steel loom bracket".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Sometimes those wires will short out inside that tube if the wire coverings are cracked. Got any spark coming from the wires? Edited August 3, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Try cranking in the dark. If there's wild sparks you'll see them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Clean the points. Many times sitting for long periods of time they tend to glaze over for some reason. These are very basic ignitions and a simple multimeter with someone that know how to use it will make it look simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Didn't have any spark last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Ok, need some help. Today we replaced all of the spark plug wires, distributor cap, rotor button, condenser on distributor, new wires to distributor, new wire to generator....still no spark. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 8/2/2017 at 5:18 PM, CHendry said: Need some help. Car isn't getting any spark. It's good to the distributor and rebuilt the carbourator today. Any suggestion on what to do next? So, you were getting spark to the distributor, but now you are not? Did you check the coil? Sounds like coil or condenser. I know you said that you changed out the condenser, but I might try another as sometimes they are bad from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I wish I was there to lean over the fenders with you and help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hchris Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 6 hours ago, CHendry said: Ok, need some help. Today we replaced all of the spark plug wires, distributor cap, rotor button, condenser on distributor, new wires to distributor, new wire to generator....still no spark. Any thoughts? With points closed and ignition turned on, using a fine screwdriver, lever the point open and closed; do you have a spark at the points ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 9 hours ago, keiser31 said: So, you were getting spark to the distributor, but now you are not? Did you check the coil? Sounds like coil or condenser. I know you said that you changed out the condenser, but I might try another as sometimes they are bad from the start. how do I check the coil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Pull the center wire from the dist cap, hold the wire near the block and have someone step on the starter with the key turned on. Or, take the cap off, remove the center wire as above, turn the key on and open the points manually. No spark your coil is a dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 12 hours ago, keiser31 said: I wish I was there to lean over the fenders with you and help out. Agree, Where you at CHendry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Bristol,tn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Just curious. I think this car might be a '29. Doesn't appear to have a water pump in the engine shot. Compare it with the shot Keiser provided. Also it should have the horn on the head light bar. A check of serial numbers should sort it. We have a Canadian '29 sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The coil is your best bet. These cars originally came with the coil attached directly to the ignition switch although many have been converted to a coil on the firewall inside the car, just an FYI. I have the 30U version of your car, so feel free to contact me if you want to compare notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthPE Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Any chance a faulty ignition switch wire connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, hursst said: The coil is your best bet. These cars originally came with the coil attached directly to the ignition switch although many have been converted to a coil on the firewall inside the car, just an FYI. I have the 30U version of your car, so feel free to contact me if you want to compare notes. The ignition switch the coil however you could turn it on with a screwdriver because it was stripped out at some point. We've tried two new could and have had no luck. There is no spark to thecoil wire. New 6 volt ignition coil, negative at ammeter, positive to distributor. Coil mounted and grounded to the frame. What am I missing here? We could really use help with this Edited August 7, 2017 by CHendry Added info (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hchris Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Again - do you have spark at the points ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It could be the movable arm of the points grounding out or a short where the primary wire enters the dist housing. You can check the coil separately by holding the high tension wire near the block and having one primary wire attached and make and break the connection with the other one. If that gives you a high tension spark then your problem is inside the distributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank29u Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Make sure the screw holding the points against the distributor housing is insulated from the housing and the points from the housing also. Here are the components from the inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHendry Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Ok... So here's the update. Got the car running... For about a week. Drive around the block several times, did great. Now it won't crank over. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursst Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I would try going to the 28-32 4-cyl owner's site located here: http://www.1948plymouth.info/28Q29U/index.php I think you have to register to post, but these guys focus on these cars exclusively, so you may get more help there than on here. You may also want to post what the current symptoms of the car are. What have you tested at this point, now that the car won't turn over. Is the battery still good, is the starter getting power, etc., just basic things, so maybe folks can tune in on what the problem may be. Your post was a week ago, though, any news since then? -Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC438R Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I had a similar problem, turns out the point spring was actually touching the housing of the distributor, I put a piece of plastic between the two to isolate the points from ground and away it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 In the past 25 years I have noticed about half of the points for my car have the notch in the spring a shade too near the end so that the spring touches the dist body. The first time I was on the road and slid a piece of the cover from a book of matches as an insulator. All the same manufacturer but some good and some not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racertb Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 It's not a '29... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandleman Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Looks like my 1929 Plym Roadster 28 and 29 Q and U used Anti syphon cooling 1930-32 used a water Pump my friends 1930 dodge brothers truck used a motor also looks like that with a silver dome in the U133 ton and half but water pump was on the drivers side and generator up front like the Roadster, racertb why do you think or know its not a 29, I will go out to mine that my father had before me in he got the roadster in 1964 and take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racertb Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I apologize...I was looking at the motor that Keiser31 posted...it does look like a '29 motor along with the thin radiator shell. Maybe a '30U? I have a '29 Roadster as well. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandleman Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yeah not sure if the 30u early did anti syphon no worries , hope he gets it running good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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