Curti Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I found this picture while going through a 1977 Auction America flyer. I would imagine that this car still exists. Does anyone know where it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 I would think that would feel at home in The Imperial Palice collection in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 A 28-year restoration? Sounds like one of my projects!I don't think The Imperial Palace has it. Check this thread: OT - Gold Plated 1920 Pierce Arrow - THE H.A.M.B..I checked Google and, as usual, found a related odd fact: The actor Sessue Hayakawa owned a gold plated Pierce Arrow.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 I saw this car many years ago. It is not gold plated but rather covered with 4" square sheets of gold leaf, rather poorly done as I remember. I believe it used to do the show circuit with the Allegheny Ludlum stainless steel cars. I think I saw it at Carlisle in the early 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted December 6, 2009 Author Share Posted December 6, 2009 "4" square sheets of gold leaf" I imagine that would be difficult to wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Actually I believe it was varnished over the gold leaf. Standard method of "gold plating" picture frames and various antiques. 23 carat gold will not tarnish, anything under 23 carat will and needs to be coated with something. Gold leaf is incredibly thin. On that entire car there likely is less than an ounce of gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 There may have been another around 1930 +or-, but with only the normally plated hardware done in gold on a white straight 8 Pierce for the then Shah of Persia as it was. I think this was reported by Hendry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I was sitting in the front row of the Kruse Auction in Arizona when that car sold... 1974 if I remember correctly. The fenders were nickel plated. I never heard about or saw that car again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DeSoto Frank Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I believe the technique of applying gold-leaf then sealing with varnish is commonly (?) known as "gilding".So, would that make this Pierce a "Gilded Lily", or a "Gilty Pleasure" ?If Louis the XIV had owned a Pierce, I guess it would look like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MochetVelo Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Gold leaf, though very thin (about 1/250000": 1,000 sheets = thickness of a dime)) is actually quite durable. Our state capital rotunda (PA) is gilded and has no finish over that. For a car that gets rubbed and buffed,however, you might need a clear coat.Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 No finish is needed if 23 carat gold is used. Anything less than 23 carat will tarnish if not coated. Years ago we restored several antique carousel pieces and used a considerable amount of gold leaf. Tricky stuff to work with. It likes to float away in the slightest air movement. Burnishing must be done with an agate burnisher or the tooth of a meat eating animal. Truly an ancient technique little changed over the millenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 55olds98holiday Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I remember seeing this vehicle at an Antique car museum in Savannah,Ga that used to be on River st. back in 1979. I was 13 years old and crazy about old cars so I thought this was really neat. The museum is no longer there, can't remember the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gimpster Posted May 31, 2010 Share Posted May 31, 2010 That was the Evans Antique Car Museum at 313 W River Street. Owned by a guy named Harry Evans who (if I remember correctly) made his money in chemical coatings used by the nuclear power and weapons industries. He had a facility where restorations were done on site. At some point, he moved the museum and cars but I don't remember where to. I had a friend whose father did most of his restorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphicar BUYER Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 As a kid I remember It sat in the lobby of the bank my mom banked at in Denver for some time. I remember it begging me to stare at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I love Pierce Arrows, but must leaf this thread alone, it leaves me gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I remember a movie,"The Solid Gold Cadillac" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I love Pierce Arrows, but must leaf this thread alone, it leaves me gold.AU telling me you don't carat all about this car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 AU telling me you don't carat all about this car? Nicely done............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thanks, periodically I come up with a nugget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) It is nice to see photos of this car from time to time. It originally belonged to a guy from my hometown of Hutchinson, Kansas named Emerson Carey, who owned one of the enormous salt mines in that city. Never met Emerson, but worked in his mine once! Technically, the car should be in the excellent Reno County Historical Society Museum in Hutchinson someday {in case anyone's looking for a donation to a 501-3c organization}. It was at an RM auction in October, 2010. RMs auction notes said that the plating was done by an antique car collector in Great Bend, KS during the 1945-1973 restoration. Edited September 12, 2011 by jeff_a (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsbob Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 From RM Site:Automobiles of London Wednesday, October 27, 2010 From the Hooper Corporate CollectionAmazing gold-plated aluminium body<TABLE width=150><TBODY><TR><TD class="bold nopad">Estimate:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=nopad>£70,000-£100,000</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>AUCTION RESULTS: Lot was Sold at a price of £89.600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsbob Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 <TABLE class="details fullwidth"><TBODY><TR><TD class="bold nopad">I see that it is coming up at auction again. If I did the arithmatic on the pounds-to-dollars correctly, at todays exchange rate, it sold for $137,804 USD in Oct. '10.It will be interesting to see what the auction in 10 days in AZ will bring.Estimate:</TD></TR><TR><TD class=nopad>$185,000-$225,000 US</TD></TR><TR><TD class=bold>AUCTION DATE:</TD></TR><TR><TD>To be auctioned on Friday, January 20, 2012</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUHRMAN71 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 It was in the Hyman Classic Cars tent at 2011 Hershey - next to the Duesenberg and the St. Louis.There was a big crowd around it all week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest janders Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) I was Custodian of this vehicle in 1992, and it was situated in Lamport Hall just north of Northampton in England . Whilst in my custody it underwent minor restoration. I must correct the conception that it is gold plated, it is covered in gold leaf. It appeared in the British motoring TV programme "Top Gear" whilst in my posession, it also featured in the February 1993 edition of "Automobile" with myself in attendance. I must stipulate that I did not own this car, but I believe the owner took it from somewhere in Texas in lieu of a debt. It was provisionally valued at £250,000.00p for the debt purpose but I believe was sold at auction in the UK for less than 10% of that. The car was first purchased by a Mr Emerson Carey in Kansas for $8,500 in 1921, but it was a certain Doc Pritchard who (taking some 40 years) restored this vehicle to the 1992 state and in my custody. Every nut bold washer chassis rail was plated in Nickel, Silver or Gold and Gold leaf. I loved the old lady and if you can get a copy of Vol 10 No 12 of Automobile from February 1993, there is a full article on her in ther. John Anderson, Northampton, England. In fact I have now scanned the article and if anyone wants a copy, please request one at my email address john.anderson@post.com Please note that I am on holiday from 22/07/2012 to 6/08/2012 so nothing will be sent until I return. Edited July 17, 2012 by janders Additional information (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2Wrench Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I was Custodian of this vehicle in 1992, and it was situated in Lamport Hall just north of Northampton in England . Whilst in my custody it underwent minor restoration. I must correct the conception that it is gold plated, it is covered in gold leaf. It appeared in the British motoring TV programme "Top Gear" whilst in my posession, it also featured in the February 1993 edition of "Automobile" with myself in attendance. I must stipulate that I did not own this car, but I believe the owner took it from somewhere in Texas in lieu of a debt. It was provisionally valued at £250,000.00p for the debt purpose but I believe was sold at auction in the UK for less than 10% of that. The car was first purchased by a Mr Emerson Carey in Kansas for $8,500 in 1921, but it was a certain Doc Pritchard who (taking some 40 years) restored this vehicle to the 1992 state and in my custody. Every nut bold washer chassis rail was plated in Nickel, Silver or Gold and Gold leaf. I loved the old lady and if you can get a copy of Vol 10 No 12 of Automobile from February 1993, there is a full article on her in ther. John Anderson, Northampton, England. In fact I have now scanned the article and if anyone wants a copy, please request one at my email address john.anderson@post.com Please note that I am on holiday from 22/07/2012 to 6/08/2012 so nothing will be sent until I return.Thanks for posting this information. It is great to hear it from the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UVT_Mike Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Here is a link to the car currently available. Lot's of great pictures as well.1918 Pierce-Arrow 48 Car for Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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