Timchek Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Looking for help positively identifying the make and model of this roadster. Said to have been built from from a 1930 Pontiac? When I’ve researched online doesn’t appear to match many of the photos out there. It’s possible that the grill was not born with the body, same for chassis. Currently has a Chevy stovebolt six installed along with matching three speed w/overdrive. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 TROG car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Top of the cowell looks like it could be Pontiac, but I dont know enough about cars from that era to say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsfarms Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Looks like a fun project that probably runs down the road..... What flavor of "Stovebolt" are we seeing? They are great engines! Edited November 14, 2023 by alsfarms clarity (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The radiator shell is 26-28 Pontiac. The pattern on the top of the cowl appears to match the top of the shell. The lines on the body don't match any Pontiacs in pictures of them in my books. I may have a hood for one of these if anyone needs one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Body looks to be a 1930 Pontiac....same lines. Radiator shell is definitely earlier as stated. Edited November 14, 2023 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, keiser31 said: Body looks to be a 1930 Pontiac....same lines. Radiator shell is definitely earlier as stated. 5 hours ago, TAKerry said: TROG car? So yes, the fellow I acquired the car from built it for TROG event. Elected to move on as he said they’ve cancelled the last several years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, alsfarms said: Looks like a fun project that probably runs down the road..... What flavor of "Stovebolt" are we seeing? They are great engines! I was told it came out of a 52 pickup, be interested to know if it’s a Babbitt engine or pressure oiling, not sure if that can be determined externally? And yes it does run down the road, needs full electrical system and lighting installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, sagefinds said: The radiator shell is 26-28 Pontiac. The pattern on the top of the cowl appears to match the top of the shell. The lines on the body don't match any Pontiacs in pictures of them in my books. I may have a hood for one of these if anyone needs one. I might be interested in the hood, would need some measurements to determine if it could be made to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, keiser31 said: Body looks to be a 1930 Pontiac....same lines. Radiator shell is definitely earlier as stated. Thanks Keiser31, that’s what I was puzzled by as I researched online, that the rad shell didn’t match any of the images. Appreciate the feedback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The radiator shell is 1928. Compare with 1926 - particularly the lower tank area. This is the ex Don Bougher 1926 coupe that was the foundation of POCI. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoringicons Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 That's a fun car! Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Timchek said: I was told it came out of a 52 pickup, be interested to know if it’s a Babbitt engine or pressure oiling, not sure if that can be determined externally? Look for a little triangular cover plate on the block, along the pan rail, about halfway back. If it has the plate, it's low pressure oiling. If it does not, it is full pressure oiling. Displacement can be trickier. The 1952 pickup should have had a 216 when built, and all of those are low pressure oiling. I'd like to hear more about the overdrive. Edited November 14, 2023 by Bloo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Bloo said: Look for a little triangular cover plate on the block, along the pan rail, about halfway back. If it has the plate, it's low pressure oiling. If it does not, it is full pressure oiling. Displacement can be trickier. The 1952 pickup should have had a 216 when built, and all of those are low pressure oiling. I'd like to hear more about the overdrive. Bloo, it was explained to me when I purchased the car that the lever on the left rear of the trans case engaged the overdrive, supposedly it would have been hooked to some type of actuating device, I’m assuming manually activated in some form. I’ve only had the opportunity to drive the car about 1/4 mile as it’s not titled nor registered yet. When you look at the trans in the image you can see what appears to be a second unit attached to the rear of the trans into which that forward facing lever on the left is attached. I don’t have any additional hardware for the overdrive and I’ve not even had the car up on stands yet! 🙄 I’ll gladly report back when I learn more. if anyone out there is familiar with this overdrive unit would be interested to hear! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) I am wondering if it might be freewheeling instead of overdrive. GM really seemed to be avoiding overdrive in those days. The transmission at last a first glance looks like early-mid 30s Chevrolet, but I don't recall the freewheel looking quite like that. If it is an aftermarket overdrive that fits an early Chevrolet transmission it would indeed be very interesting to know about. Good luck with your project! Edited November 15, 2023 by Bloo (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 Bloo, the car does freewheel when parked in all forward gears, found this out when I parked it in first gear and it wanted to roll away, the only gear which will hold the car stationary when parked is reverse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtech Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Timchek said: I was told it came out of a 52 pickup, be interested to know if it’s a Babbitt engine or pressure oiling, not sure if that can be determined externally? And yes it does run down the road, needs full electrical system and lighting installed. If it is a Splasher there is a small cover plate behind the exhaust pipes on the left side of the engine. This cover will be held on by 2 stove-bolts - originally. If not there it's a pressure engine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings32 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 32 chevy with freewheeling trans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 More pics of the trans and Odrive? So possibly not an overdrive but just a freewheel unit? thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 Oops, sorry the upside down pics! 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) It must be free wheeling. It looks like it all grew together, and there is a Chevrolet emblem, and Chevrolet never had overdrive in the prewar era. From a brino post on the VCCA forums: Quote <snip>The 590532 and 590715 are the same casting except the 590532 is machined to mate with a free wheeling unit. Both of these casting numbers have lugs cast on the sides with 3/8" - 16 tpi threads to support the MC/pedals and the e-brake. These will work in both cars and pickups. In cars the threaded lugs on the sides of the case are simply not used.<snip> https://vccachat.org/ubbthreads.php/topics/253482/1934-master-transmission-casting-number.html Edited November 22, 2023 by Bloo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 22, 2023 Author Share Posted November 22, 2023 Bloo, appreciate the info! A little bit of a disappointment as I was hopeful that it was an overdrive, but really not that much of a hindrance I guess in an open car! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 1:34 PM, Timchek said: I might be interested in the hood, would need some measurements to determine if it could be made to work I'm sure this hood is of the 26-28 era Pontiac,whether they all took the same is unknown. It has the ridge down the center,about 6" wide in back,4 1/2" wide in front. The top panels are 34" front to back on top,35" at the side hinge,side panels 34 1/2" at the bottom,about 20 1/4" tall in front,20 3/4" in back. Does not have the handles or latches,not sure if it ever had them. Louvers are almost perfectly straight,a couple may need minor tweaking. Spots of surface rust but no heavy rust issues. If this hood was ever used,it wasn't for long. Like to get $325 plus shipping. Holler if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings32 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Looks like hood on my 1930 Oakland . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kings32 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Looks like hood on my 1930 Oakland . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, kings32 said: Looks like hood on my 1930 Oakland . Oakland was the father of Pontiac so they are related. It was a companion car like Olds Viking,Buick Marquette,Cadillac LaSalle,Pontiac was the only one to edge out the father make,Oakland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticbuicks Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 i think oakland had a stamped body line in the top halves of hood above the vented lower sides......this blue hood appears right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchek Posted November 23, 2023 Author Share Posted November 23, 2023 12 hours ago, sagefinds said: I'm sure this hood is of the 26-28 era Pontiac,whether they all took the same is unknown. It has the ridge down the center,about 6" wide in back,4 1/2" wide in front. The top panels are 34" front to back on top,35" at the side hinge,side panels 34 1/2" at the bottom,about 20 1/4" tall in front,20 3/4" in back. Does not have the handles or latches,not sure if it ever had them. Louvers are almost perfectly straight,a couple may need minor tweaking. Spots of surface rust but no heavy rust issues. If this hood was ever used,it wasn't for long. Like to get $325 plus shipping. Holler if interested. That looks very promising! Traveling this weekend, I’ll put a tape measure to the car to validate and reply back early next week. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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