6T-FinSeeker Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) For sale on Facebook: 1958 Edsel Pacer Convertible in Spokane, WA - $15,500 - Must be a member of Facebook to access Seller's contact information. Link: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/196233263330660/-1958-Edsel-Pacer-Convertible Seller's Description: 1958 Edsel Pacer Convertible Driven 90,131 miles Automatic transmission Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Red Body is in near perfect condition, interior is perfect except the dash has some minor distortion and crack. Glass is perfect, top is new, mat in trunk is rottin not the metal. Moter is 361 cubic inch runs great, transmision shifts good. Seals around side windows and trunk are rottin. Top retraction needs to be worked on, has new dual power brake master, needs the new compinsater installed. Tires need to be replaced. Car is complete with all original parts. Edited September 19, 2023 by 6T-FinSeeker update status (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingrudy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Does this car have the gear shift in the steering wheel? Not sure if it is all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr B Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, kingrudy said: Does this car have the gear shift in the steering wheel? Not sure if it is all there. You can see the gear selector in the center of the steering wheel in the interior photo posted above. Robert Edited September 14, 2023 by Dr B (see edit history) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 55er Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 And it's all there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 This Edsel is a time capsule of how they all were in the 1970s and 80s. It has all the typical Edsel problems. Yes, it was a Teletouch car, but yes it also has been converted to a floor shift. How much damage was done would need investigation, but typically the added shifters were cheap slipshod affairs and are reversible. If the parts were lost, they are obtainable. I can’t see what’s on the floor. It should be a red floor mat (not carpet!) and cutting for the floor shift destroys the unobtainable un-reproduced part. Common for “restored” cars to have carpets. Original (saggy) padded dash is nice. Only in the last couple of months has a reproduction come out. Expensive (of course) delivery is slow but hopefully will get better. So even a tired original is good to see. Narrow whitewalls and a dirty, un-detailed, mostly original car typical of a collector car that attracts lots of interest but never much money. The stick holding up the trunk is another classic Edsel accessory. The (rather heavy) lid is supported by torsion bars that are held by hooks made from pot metal. A dab of lubriplate during assembly and a few years later the sliding metal on metal snaps the hook and the owner needs to fabricate the accessory stick to keep the lid open. The seat was upholstered incorrectly. Very typical, the white diamond vinyl does NOT continue under the driver. The driver sits red vinyl. Edsels are similar to the Pontiac “over the shoulder look” and Mopar asymmetrical patterns that look unbalanced and upholstery shops can’t resist the need to “correct” them. Town & Country (signal seeking) radio which used to be a hot feature but now with Bluetooth conversions all you really want is the “look” of the optional radio. Current owner has removed the Treadle-vac power brakes and installed the (mandatory?) dual master setup. So, typical Edsel with all the typical problems. Decent car, not overly priced (for a convertible) but would need a lot of repairs and sorting to bring it up to current standards but you could also just use it as is fixing just was is needed to keep it functional. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Its not hard to see why they didnt sell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Jake Moran Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Citation for me, or nothing. But it looks like an interesting Edsel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, B Jake Moran said: Citation for me, or nothing As someone who has been around Edsels for a long time, I suggest you follow the old advertising line "Try BEFORE you buy". The big cars a gorgeous to look at, but hideous to drive. And parts are way more difficult to get. Surprisingly, few things interchange between the two cars. Edited September 14, 2023 by m-mman (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, m-mman said: As someone who has been around Edsels for a long time, I suggest you follow the old advertising line "Try BEFORE you buy". The big cars a gorgeous to look at, but hideous to drive. And parts are way more difficult to get. Surprisingly, few things interchange between the two cars. Agreed ! My understanding is, that Despite the several "Unique" styling of Edsel, The smaller series Ranger and Pacer were based loosely on Ford, while the upper series Citation and Corsair were based on Mercury- Some opine that the for Edsel models were created to fill a gap which didn't need to be filled - but rather to have more versions to compete with the other two of the "Big Three" The public reacted accordingly ... along with multiple disparaging descriptions related to styling choices. Probably the least offensive compared the 1958 Edsel to a Mercury sucking a Lemon- others are not appropriate to note here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41 Su8 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Someone help me, I don't see a floor shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr B Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 8 hours ago, m-mman said: Yes, it was a Teletouch car, but yes it also has been converted to a floor shift. How much damage was done would need investigation, but typically the added shifters were cheap slipshod affairs and are reversible. If the parts were lost, they are obtainable. Impressive vision! Thanks for the clarification, I had to look hard after you mentioned it to see the floor shifter in the photo. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I had to go back, looked hard for a few minutes at the int. pics. I dont see a floor shifter, then again I could never find Waldo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr B Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/15/2023 at 8:16 AM, TAKerry said: I had to go back, looked hard for a few minutes at the int. pics. I dont see a floor shifter, then again I could never find Waldo. Sorry, I'll get my eyes checked! I looked at the interior photo from the drivers side and thought (see circle in attached photo) that was a shift knob. However, I enlarged it and also went to the posting and found a photo from the passenger side and I also do not see a floor shifter. Not sure why m-mman says it was converted to a floor shifter. So, I guess I have to flop back from the flip. Robert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 No floor shifter, you are seeing the label on that jar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6T-FinSeeker Posted September 19, 2023 Author Share Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19, Seller marked the Facebook ad "SOLD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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