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1913Mercer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 4/9/2020 at 10:39 AM, 1937hd45 said: The restored car today in the INDY 500 Collection It's great to see both images of the auto next to each other, almost like a before and after, but not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Or perhaps more of a then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 3:11 PM, George Cole said: That is one crazy buick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 3:03 PM, AHa said: There is a lot said about this vintage Mercer. It is a highly desired and prized car and just from the looks of it, I can see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yes. Mercer's really are valuable these days. Cool you've got an image of one! Mercer's are my favorite cars. My favorite color is yellow, and that's what they usually came in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1905 Tincher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1916 Stutz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I am so tired of this covid thing and now you've got all these political ads and dirt and lies flying about, I need a lot of stress relief. How bout you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 1913 Mercer/Simeone Museum Edited September 17, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Mercer's really are pretty cool. Here is an image of one racing, or at least getting ready for one or after one. Do you know? It isn't so dirty (yet!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, AHa said: 1913 Mercer That one's from Simeone right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Looks like the same car, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1913Mercer Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, AHa said: Looks like the same car, no? Hey yeah. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Edited September 17, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1911 Mercer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) One article states only about a dozen authentic pre 14 Mercers have survived to this day. It would be interesting to know what the authors definition of authentic is but I would think some known provenance would provide authenticity. Which begs the question, how many non-authentic pre 14 Mercers are out there? And what are their stories Edited September 18, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Ballard 35R Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 What do you mean by "authentic"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, AHa said: One article states only about a dozen authentic pre 14 Mercers have survived to this day. It would be interesting to know what the author's definition of authentic is but I would think some known provenance would provide authenticity. Which begs the question, how many non-authentic pre 14 Mercers are out there? And what are their stories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 They are possibly meaning Mercer " Raceabouts "specifically . It has long been suggested that a number of todays raceabouts started life as other less sporting models . Same situation with Stutz Bearcats. Greg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) For those who don't know, this is Peter Helck's car. He no longer owns it of course but the new owner has kept the patina. The car was repainted in the early 40s as I understand it. The specs for the Mercers is 4.43 x 5 B&S with a compression ratio of 7 to 1 from the factory, rated at 60 hp according to a Hemmings Article. Edited September 18, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AHa Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) I wanted to revisit this car, which was posted earlier. I wish I knew how to enlarge it and repost it, maybe one of you guys can. The car though, is an underslung chassis. I didn't notice that before and the right front spring is out of its housing. I can't find any information on what kind of car it is but it appears to be a 1907 American. If so this is a very rare car. This may be the same car. And this colorized version is from The Vanderbilt Cup website. Edited September 19, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Harry Hartz in his first baby car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Wonderful photos! Thank you so very much AHa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) The car below is identified as a 1907 Acme on the web but I can't find any pictures of an Acme with an underslung chassis so I am relatively sure this is a 1907 American Traveler, 50 hp car. And I am pretty sure it is the same car pictured above. Luckily we have the F.C. Deemer honeymoon car to compare it with. There are four exhaust holes in the side of the hood to correspond with the four exhaust openings of the above car. The race picture above also shows the crank handle support indicative of the American as you can see in the picture below. You can also see the front of the springs is held by a shackle, so the spring is not out of its housing above, it is held by its shackle. Very interesting. The car also has the same front axle. Edited September 19, 2020 by AHa (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zararumi Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Nice ihave some vid https://shrinke.me/3IvDG6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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