Steves Buick Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 OK I confess, the car is back together and of course there are these 2 left over parts for my 32 buick. I thought they were door springs, but I dont see how they would attach to the door. I know there are guys out there that will say how did he not know this but here I am.. Thanks for any inputs and sarcasim will be appreciated. Cheers, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly_John Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Only two leftover pieces from your project, Steve? You are superhuman! O.K. I know very little about 1932 Buicks (other than your 90 series couple is a beautiful example of that year's production. However, let me take a shot at this one....perhaps my comments will jog your memory. This spring looks a tiny bit similar to some I've seen that are part of the exterior door latching mechanism. The ones I've seen put tension on the latch "bolt" as it the moves in and out of the door latch receiver, when you rotate the car's outside door handle. It causes the bolt to spring outward, as you release the door handle. Sometimes guys don't replace these in a restoration, and the exterior door handle will sag. Or, the restorer inadvertently flips these springs (right side door spring to left side door), and the exterior handle actually points upward a bit. And, now....taking another guess. How about these parts being part of your mechanical braking system? Something to hold a couple of brake rods apart when they're moving parallel to each other along the frame, or wherever. And, as long as I'm taking guesses....could these pieces have anything to do with your golf club door (if your car is so equipped)? Again, part of the latch or door hinge mechanism. How about the rumble seat "trunk" cover? And, finally, anything to do with the interior jump seats (if so equipped)? NOW, having gone out on a limb here, since I've never seen your specific part before, I ask you and any other respondents to be gentle with me, if I missed this by a mile. Good luck. John Edited February 7, 2020 by Jolly_John (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valk Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 looks like Pinoccio's handlebar mustache... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Steve, Obviously meant to keep 2 bolts / pins apart. Where are the wear points ? Inside the two outer curves ? Some kind of rocker switch ? Tell us what does not work on the car, and that will be the first clue. Mike in Colorado 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Wright Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 ...or to keep two copper tubes apart? Fuel line and vacuum line, or other combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMicheletti Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Over center spring for the hood side doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 They are anti rattle springs for the rear brake linkage. The brake pedal works linkage to a cross shaft that passes through the side frame rails. from the lever on outside of the fram there is a rod that connect to a lever about a foot behind the cross shaft. From this idler lever there is a rod shaft to the rear brakes. The anti rattle spring goes between the two rod clevis pins. Bob Engle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steves Buick Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Bob, I think you nailed it, I'll look in the morning and see, I did not put in any anti rattle springs in the brake linkage. Pix to follow.. Thanks.. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steves Buick Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Bob Engle is the winner. There is wear on the clevis pin forks that perfectly match the anti rattle springs as depicted by the jaws of my needle nose pliers pointed at the worn forks.. thanks Bob I had forgotten all about them. Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Are they used on a 35 also? I don't think mine has any.I wonder if a clothes pin spring could be made to work.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 O.K. lets see the spring installed. Mike in Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steves Buick Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 I don't know if they were used on a 1935, not installed yet, but will send photos when I do next week. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 If it were mine, I would flip the spring over and insert the hooks inside the 2 clevises Out on the rods, the spring has nothing to push against. Just wondering out loud.......... Mike in Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly_John Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) Hey, Steve.....hold on a minute!! What is this bountiful praise and adulation of Bob Engle all about?? What about this quote from my initial post: "And, now....taking another guess. How about these parts being part of your mechanical braking system?" I do admit that was a bit of a guess on my part. But, it was based on some general old car mechanical experience, and a little logic. O.K., now being serious: I've enjoyed Bob's posts on other topics, and he sure knows his stuff. And, Steve, since you and I have recently come to know each other because of other old BUICK stuff, I had to give you a rough time. I'm glad you now have no leftover parts from your '32 BUICK restoration. John Edited February 10, 2020 by Jolly_John (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The purpose of the spring is to prevent any noise by keeping the linkage pushed out against the clevis pins. They are often called antirattle springs. Bob Engle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYER15015 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/7/2020 at 11:43 AM, FLYER15015 said: Steve, Obviously meant to keep 2 bolts / pins apart. Where are the wear points ? Inside the two outer curves ? Some kind of rocker switch ? Tell us what does not work on the car, and that will be the first clue. Mike in Colorado So my first guess was correct.......... Just saying.. Mike in colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly_John Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Geez, Mike is as bad as I am! Wait a minute....I think my suggestion was closer to the correct answer than Mike's was!! I don't think Steve was offering a prize or cash reward for the guy who came up with the answer he needed. Heck, I'm moving on the next "What Is It" question on the forum. John Edited February 11, 2020 by Jolly_John (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steves Buick Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 OK, OK I asked for sarcasim, thanks for the replys by all, Yes John and Flyer you guys also were on target as well, every body gets a trophy!! I really enjoy this forum for stuff like this, then when we meet at a Buick national meet we can point fingers at each other and order a cold one.. I do have another "what is it" part yet to be posted.. maybe we should have a seperate catagory "What is it?" on the forum.. like trivia pursuit.?? Thanks guys.. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32buick67 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Old post for many, but new for me as someone trying to keep the dream alive... I decided to remove the one 'mostly good' and 'nearly worn' anti-rattle spring I had on the drivers side, and also remove the one worn broken anti-rattle spring on the passengers side for posterities sake on my 1932 Buick. The passengers side spring broke due to wear, and the drivers side was very close to breaking, so maybe it was time to retire the drivers side anti-rattle spring, and all anti-rattle springs for good. I am not concerned about a little rattle on a 90 year old car, happy birthday to my Buick this year in whatever form it wants to take, shakes and rattles! My wife wants to ride in style and reliability, and she doesn't care about rattle, especially since the 90hp engine at 45mph tends to drown out anything in the car, including our evening chats about how our kids are doing in school and life, etc. I do want to shout out to Bob Engle - I don't know how he does it, but he has a great memory and knowledge about the 1932 Buicks and cares about imparting his knowledge to others like me...he has helped me as a rookie so much, and I cannot thank him enough. Str8-8-Dave is also an incredible guy with a now handsome red-black 31-66S who also comes from a long line of experience and automotive purveyors, and while we share similar Ford-related backgrounds, I am trying to catch up, and I thoroughly have developed an affinity towards similar prewar and very early Buicks like Bob and Dave have, to the point I would really consider a 19-teens Buick to purvey. Old school - my wife and I are probably a little unique thinking 30-40mph is a good time on our country roads, but you should know we like to swing and ballroom dance, and we also like watching old black and white movies like the Thin Man, and films with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, much to our kids dismay vs action films with the Marvel Avengers. This might be cool, last year photo op example with a real B25 bomber in MN; https://www.cafmn.org/store/p68/April_17%2C_2021_Photo_Op_With_Miss_Mitchell__.html May you all keep your brakes and safety devices serviced and in check to ensure many safe miles of enjoyment and fun on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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