broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Bought 19 inch tires from coker a little while back has the little dot embossed on the tire wall does it go on the same side as valve stem or opposite side I forget Called coker the person who answered first did not know then said it did not matter then said opposite ????????? thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 The dot is to mark the heavy spot, so it is usually placed across from the valve stem. However, the valve stem weighs so little that it doesn't really matter. They should balance up pretty well no matter where the dot actually ends up. The important thing is that your mounting shop doesn't hurt the rims or locking rings. The rest is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 thank you Matt the wheel is a one piece steel wire wheel 32 Plymouth just painted the wheels with enamel with a hardener worried about getting the new paint destroyed going to try to mount myself new tires pretty stiff any advise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_BENTLEY Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Mount them outside on a hot day let tires warm up in sun for a while to soften them up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Wrap the wheel edges in a heavy, black trash bag and the tire should slide right on. I always change my 1931 Dodge tires while the wheel is on the car. Makes it MUCH easier than wrestling with it on the ground. My wheels are like yours.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Never bothered with the dot you mentioned. I index all the tires to match the valve stem and company logo and do the same with the hub cap, all four and the spare match. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 Keiser have the same wheels I do have a manual tire changer again afraid I will destroy paint job not sure what you mean about the plastic really would like to talk with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I deflate the tire, shove the plastic bag in and around the wheel bead edge. I use a rounded tire spoon with no sharp edges and slowly work it around the rim and pulling the tire off. I never get chips in the paint that way. You may want to check on the backside of a wheel to see how hard the paint is prior to mounting the tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) I usually fold the trash bag a few times in order to cover the rim well. You could use a few layers of painter's tape instead of the bag. Edited August 28, 2019 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 I have the tire off painted the wheel enamel with hardener I have several methods should I put the tube in tire first then get first side wall on them slip have it get valve stem through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Put the bag on the wheel edge, put the tube in the tire and be sure you have the rim band/tube protector on the wheel prior to installing the tire/tube as a unit. Put the first bead on, pull the trash bag off of the rim and insert it back on to put the other tire bead on. Then you can line up the valve stem with the hole if you haven't already done so. Edited August 28, 2019 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Sometimes, soapy water will work to help slide the tire on if it seems to be too tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 I found this putting it on from the back what do you thing https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/how-to-mount-bias-ply-tires-in-your-own-garage.462011/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 That works very well, but you may have to paint them again after mounting the tires using that method....like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Put the tire on the wheel from the back side, I use a rubber hammer, never tire irons, irons are for removal. I like a shipping blanket on the floor and a cable or chain valve stem pulling tool. Tube in the tire, inflate then remove the core and install tire & tube. Once you are on a roll all four should take you two hours. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, keiser31 said: I always change my 1931 Dodge tires while the wheel is on the car. Makes it MUCH easier than wrestling with it on the ground 29-31 Pontiac operators manual says to mount tires this way on drop center wheels. I have always put the valve stem opposite the serial number. Out of 9 sets of tires only one set needed one tire balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 how do you use hammer going to have to pry the tire over lip ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 As 1937hd45 said....find a soft surface if you mount them on a floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 Keiser have heard about mount with wheel on car but want to come in from back I THANK EVERYONE FOR INPUT !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, keiser31 said: I usually fold the trash bag a few times in order to cover the rim well. You could use a few layers of painter's tape instead of the bag. Another use for the trash bags (Like Hefty) . If you are doing a wheel alignment on a level steel or concrete surface and do not have the spring/roller plates to do the Caster 20 degree swings you can cut up into 1 foot squares the trash bags. Five or six 1 ft. squares under each front wheel will allow a perfect swing from zero to 20 degrees and back through zero and 20 degrees to check and adjust the Caster adjustment angle. They will also allow the suspension to be jounced to level things out after a car has been jacked off the ground. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On cars with a high profile tires 60 series and above if you leave the tires in the sun for a while then spray silicone on both beads of the tire and around the edge of the rim you can sometimes mount a tire by hand. This is easily accomplished on the tire mounting/dismounting machine using your body weight and a good pair of strong arms. 75 series tires are really easy to do this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, broker-len said: how do you use hammer going to have to pry the tire over lip ????? Just smack the tire bead that isn't were it should be with the rubber hammer, no danger of chipping paint. Edited August 28, 2019 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 I was taught to put the dot next to the valve stem. Shampoo is a great lubricant for mounting tires. Don't use your wife's $45 stuff you will get in trouble. Get some from the dollar store for a $1 buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broker-len Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Mereness Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Make sure you have a gutter strip down in your drop center and I always Johnson's Baby Power the tire casing and the tube. For the tube, just put some baby powder down in a glad bag and drop tube in and shake. They do make tire talc, but it is a little hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
901 Packard Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Any advise on 19" lock rings ? Have newly powder coated rims and was thinking years ago installed lock rings on my Chevy pickup using dish soap so the rings did not chip the paint. Saw a you tube where a guy just used his rubber soled boot to stomp them down, looked painful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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