Pete Phillips Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1929 Chrysler model 65 coupe. I need to change the inner tube. What tool am I missing to get this rim lock undone? Never done this before, so I need some instruction, please. Thanks for any help. Pete Phillips Leonard, Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) DO NOT USE the rim spreader. Do this instead. Get the correct tool and do it this way....put the flat end of the wrench into the slot and crank the tab towards the center. Do just the opposite when reassembling. You will only ruin the rim band with that rim spreader. The correct tool will open the rim band just enough to not warp it. Edited August 4, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Oh....you will have to spin the tube a little bit past the air valve hole as when you return it to it's original position, it will shift a bit. Make sure you have the tube/valve core out of the valve so the tube is really pliable and no air keeps it from deflating all of the way. It will be a tight fit with your fingers to get the tube just right. BE CERTAIN THE RIM BAND UNDER THE TUBE IS CLEAN. Edited August 4, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Hopefully, you have not already put too much cranking pressure on the rim with that spreader. If it ends up being warped from the spreader, be certain you put it back to "round" prior to reassembly. Edited August 4, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 If you need a better explanation or more help call me. John 541.535.1890 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 The rim spreader is placed wrong if you need to use it. Go to model A tire changes on You-tube . Also be careful; filling make sure lock is tight before bouncing to set tube in rim . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Keiser, I'm not at all familiar with this type of rim, just curious. If one doesn't have the tool you posted could a half inch flex bar be used or is the hole not square? Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, GregLaR said: Keiser, I'm not at all familiar with this type of rim, just curious. If one doesn't have the tool you posted could a half inch flex bar be used or is the hole not square? Greg It is not a square hole. I have used a huge screwdriver to turn them, but it is VERY difficult without the offset in the wrench for leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Like so with the right tool.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 I hate to admit it but that looks a lot easier than the "Jaxon" rims that GM uses. In fact it even looks easier than Studebaker's style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tinindian said: I hate to admit it but that looks a lot easier than the "Jaxon" rims that GM uses. In fact it even looks easier than Studebaker's style. They are fairly easy. I did a demonstration speech when I was a kid in high school about how to change a 1931 Dodge flat tire. The other kids saw me rolling the spare tire down the halls of the school and thought I was a little nutty. The teacher gave me an 'A' mostly on originality. Basically, once you shrink the rim, you just lift off the tire with the tube in it. Easy, peasy. Edited August 5, 2017 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 As easy as it is Keiser , you must remember there are people here now who may have never worked with tubes on bikes or cars . And the rim is only a part of it . You talked of the under liner ,but there is stem alignment and powdering pre-inflating to set and prevent pinching , and other we somtimes take for granted . Picture or u-tube and the thousand words worth play here also . I did my first set on a car last year and almost forgot about tube liner as prior had none and tube was rusted to rim , and then bounce to ground to set tube and bead ,only to have rim collapse and tube bulge out side until it exploded . Just Thoughts . And love that you got an A , originality is best . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 Thanks for the instruction. I think my Chrysler has one of those tools in the trunk. Now I know how to use it. Much appreciated. Pete Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huptoy Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 An alternate option is to find a tire shop that can work on truck split rims. Look for an older shop in a small town. Many farm communities can handle split rims on older equipment. Take your spreader. I use a large screwdriver with square shaft & use a vice grip to clamp & turn the rim release. I also use the rim spreader in connection with release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 If I didn't have the correct tool I would buy a cheap extension, grind the end down to fit the slot and use the socket wrench handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 So...we're very curious. Did you make any progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakeside Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 8/6/2017 at 3:04 PM, huptoy said: An alternate option is to find a tire shop that can work on truck split rims. Look for an older shop in a small town. Many farm communities can handle split rims on older equipment. Take your spreader. I use a large screwdriver with square shaft & use a vice grip to clamp & turn the rim release. I also use the rim spreader in connection with release. Using the word "split rim" in a tire shop trends to set off a panic because the newer split rims require special care because of possible injury. These older split rims can be changed with a tire bar and a screwdriver. I was able to change these rims using my shop tools. First one took 1 hour to figure out but the last one took 15 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I would call those locking ring rims, not split rims. That avoids the confusion... sometimes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stakeside Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You are correct but I am not to sure modern tire shops recognize these older rims as split rims. The locking ring is used on truck tires and can be dangerous to replace. Special protective cages are required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan arnett (2) Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Used to put the tires in a cage in case they let go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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