Paul Falabella Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Trans Fluid Change I was getting busy. I drained the pan and as per the manual there should be two plugs in the converter. The Shop manual text says they are accessible through the bell housing cover. I don't see them after turning the converter.The picture, however shows the bell housing off. I have not yet removed the pan. What am I missing?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick man Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) ...Your missing the part about not yet having removed the lower pan cover. Gotta do that first, then it's O.K. to panic ... One is at a theoretical 12:00 position and one at the 6:00 position. They are square headed small approximately 5/32 " and set near the plate cover edge. Use your biggest standard screw driver or small sharp flat edge crow bar or carpenters cats paw to turn the fly wheel. You'll find them. Edited December 30, 2015 by buick man (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 You should see them through relief holes in the flywheel/flexplate. If you find the holes, but no plugs, that means that someone installed the flywheel wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Do I need to drop the oil pan to remove the bell housing cover? It appears that a piece is tucked under the pan. If that's the case, she's gettin' a mostly ATF change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Looks to be only pinched between the pan and the block. I would not think the pan needs to be taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 It may be slightly tucked, but if you pull the bottom of the cover away from the transmission, it will slip out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) OK, there is a cutout in the cover. The next problem was there is not enough room for a socket and ratchet to the oil pan,once the plug is backed out a bit. After loosening the bolt(with the help of a persuader) I used a 1/4 inch driver to get the bolt out. It is now draining,I am not even going bother with the other plug. Next problem will be retrieving the bolt from the bottom of the flywheel after it drains. I need a Manhattan! Always something!! Interesting, there is engine overspray on the flywheel. Edited January 7, 2016 by Paul Falabella (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mmm. Manhattan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (Kaiser???) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Buick Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'll take Manhattan! The Bronx, and Staten Island too! The engines were painted at the time of their testing on a stand at the factory. Since the flywheel is part of the engine balancing, it had to be installed to run the test, and so it got painted... partially... Every flywheel I have seen had some engine paint overspray. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airy Cat Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Scotch on the rocks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not really that hard a job, if ones wife would have asked what her husband wanted for Christmas. But now I am relegated to lying on cardboard and being a contorsionist,and just when I get under there I remember the socket I need. I know what I'm getting when I hit the Powerball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Scotch on the rocks! Make it two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not really that hard a job, if ones wife would have asked what her husband wanted for Christmas. But now I am relegated to lying on cardboard and being a contorsionist,and just when I get under there I remember the socket I need. I know what I'm getting when I hit the Powerball. I have gotten many a good nap lying under my vehicles while in the mist of a repair. Cardboard is not so bad. A few greasy rags for a pillow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I ditched the "lizard routine" 30 years ago when I dug a service pit in my shop. But I am still up and down the ladder until every tool I own is laid out on the edge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I ditched the "lizard routine" 30 years ago when I dug a service pit in my shop. But I am still up and down the ladder until every tool I own is laid out on the edge. Not sure my wife will be thrilled if I dig a pit in our garage. However, there is one way to find out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Chris,You're in Bawlmer, yes?Just gotta say "C'mon Hon, we can store are Natty Beaux's down 'ere"That will get your pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Don't forget the automatic bilge pump, unless you might want an enclosed pond. Some gold fish, even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Chris,You're in Bawlmer, yes?Just gotta say "C'mon Hon, we can store are Natty Beaux's down 'ere"That will get your pit. What language is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Eastern shore, hon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 What language is this? Baltimore-ez! However, I speak the kings English! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Eastern shore, hon of what country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBulldogMiller55Buick Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 It's very different from Eastern Shore of Mobile Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 That's why my car doesn't understand me! She's from Alabama and I'm from the Bronx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Sho-nuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCK55buick Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I always thought a pit would be a great idea. How much depth do you need, enough to stand up or just bend over under the car? That might be hard on the knees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Perhaps one of the "muffler shop" drive-on lifts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I always thought a pit would be a great idea. How much depth do you need, enough to stand up or just bend over under the car? That might be hard on the knees!Deep enough to stand comfortably under the car. Even then, your head will be cleaning dirt and grease from components. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTX5467 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Is that why so many car guys that do their own work have "dark colored" headwear? An incognito way of stopping drips before they hit the ground at shows??? NTX5467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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