R W Burgess Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) http://www.aacamuseum.org/aaca-museum-cuba-trip-spring-2015/I know everyone follows the Speedster? It comes in your e-mail box every month. Wait! Some of you guys are not AACA members, so you need to check out what you're missing in the AACA! For instance the link above at the very last page of this month's Speedster blew me away. The AACA Museum has set up a very special tour to Cuba!I have heard so much about Cuba all of my life, and now we have an opportunity to visit the island, and guess what? They will let us come back home on something larger than a pontoon boat in the middle of the night!!!:cool:Check it out!Wayne Edited November 26, 2014 by R W Burgess sorry, meant larger, not smaller! Whoa, what's smaller than a pontoon boat? (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Wayne, if I didn't know you, I would have figured you were kidding! Cuba? A run-down Communistcountry with no freedom?Forgetting politics, I bet the old cars on the streets will be interesting.I'm sure it will be an adventure and a real eye-opening cultural experience.Countries like that typically don't let visitors go wherever they want to go,so that the image is carefully controlled. So you'll see the BEST '57 Chevys!And you can be sure you'll be watched. Are you going? Edited December 3, 2014 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'd love to John, but I have already settled on Santa Rosa, CA, OK City, and Louisiana for next year. Money gets funny after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Wayne, if we send you to Cuba will you promise not to come back? Sorry, could not resist based on your title of this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can feel the love, Steve! Really I can! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John_S_in_Penna Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 In Romania before Communism collapsed c. 1990,there was one particular hotel where all the foreignersstayed in the national capital. The maids went throughevery foreigner's luggage and photographed EVERY piece ofpaper in it; the ashtrays and floral arrangements at thehotel restaurant had hidden microphones; and everypayphone within a (half-mile, as I recall) radius of thathotel was bugged. I read these facts as a first-hand account, written by the head of espionage for that country, who sincedefected to the U.S.A. and published very revealing exposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 In Romania before Communism collapsed c. 1990,there was one particular hotel where all the foreignersstayed in the national capital. The maids went throughevery foreigner's luggage and photographed EVERY piece ofpaper in it; the ashtrays and floral arrangements at thehotel restaurant had hidden microphones; and everypayphone within a (half-mile, as I recall) radius of thathotel was bugged. I read these facts as a first-hand account, written by the head of espionage for that country, who sincedefected to the U.S.A. and published very revealing ????? And your point is what, John? This thread about the Cuban Tour sounds like a nice trip. I anticipate some fun conversations with the locals about old cars. In this day and age of security cameras "everywhere" Romania is history.Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 PeterCommunism isn't "history." I think John is just saying to be careful with your identification and personal papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 PeterCommunism isn't "history." I think John is just saying to be careful with your identification and personal papers.I did not say anything about "Communism isn't history"?Should have made myself more clear that "if anyone, anywhere in the world wants your private info they can get it with little effort". I took John's wording as scaring people into not supporting what I believe to be an interesting trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just curious, how much is the trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The Cuba trip only makes sense if there is enough room in the overhead bins to bring back an old car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) My point was, be watchful, be very careful.Other Americans have gone. You'll see the best theyhave to offer. Some of what you see likely won't be real,and it will be carefully crafted to misshape your opinion.It will certainly be an experience to talk about afterward.Having read books about the subject, I see nowhow VASTLY those countries differ from the typicalnot-so-perfect democracies. I could tell you much more,but politics aren't the topic for this forum. If you readthose books--first-hand accounts by people who were there--you would be on your knees thanking your Creator foreven our fallible congressmen! Edited January 14, 2015 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 (edited) West is right, though your carefulness would extendto what you say, where you go, what you look at.You likely wouldn't be able to engage in candid conversationwith anyone you want. The "locals" you talk to may eitherbe hesitant to talk openly; or you'll be talking to agentswhom you think to be candid average people. In a different totalitarian government, a man was heard to remark privately, "That actor!" derogatorilyabout a national office-holder. That was all. He spent 6 months of misery in a concentration camp, followed bya month in solitary confinement. Edited December 12, 2014 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 IDK, but I'd like to go there just to plant a big boot print on Castro's behind while smoking one of Cuba's finest cigars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Only thing they have there that I don't have, can see, or can get here is genuine Cuban cigars and truth be known they're over rated and over priced...............Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Only thing they have there that I don't have, can see, or can get here is genuine Cuban cigars and truth be known they're over rated and over priced...............BobHey Bob, you left out antique cars used as "daily drivers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Hey Wayne. My 39 PU is a daily driver. Unless it rains, or snows, or is cold, or looks like rain, or it's too far, or I want to take the dog. ...........Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 The fact is there are a lot of people who have made this trip in the past few years. Most of those I talked to did encounter some hardships with availability of all the niceties that we have in this country. However, many equally enjoyed the trip and getting to see first hand what Cuba looks like today. Certainly not a trip for everybody but it will probably be very memorable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Only thing they have there that I don't have, can see, or can get here is genuine Cuban cigars and truth be known they're over rated and over priced...............BobI've had one and it was actually very good and is this coming from someone who is not a smoker. I was told by the person who gave it to me that you can get them in Canada and they're not really that expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 They are available in Canada. I paid $300 for a box of 25 Montechristos in Sudbury maybe 20 years ago. They were good but not that good. I actually have one left I'm saving for a celebration of some sort..............Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) In case anyone thought my claims for caution were a bit audacious, here are a few quotations from today's Wall Street Journal (Dec. 22, page A15, column by Mary O'Grady):"in the first six months of this year, according to The HavanaConsulting Group, there were 327,000 visitors to Cuba fromthe U. S.""The isolation...is caused by the police state, whichcontrols and surveils foreigners' movements, herdingmost visitors into resort enclaves..."More visitors won't do anything to reduce Cuban poverty.The regime pockets the hard currency that they leave behindand pays workers in worthless pesos. Foreigners whodecide to reward good workers without state approvalcan face prison." Edited December 23, 2014 by John_S_in_Penna (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Yaros Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The January 2015 issue of my pub, Car Collector Chronicles, features an article on the realities of going to Cuba post B'Rock normalization. You may read it here - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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