Mudbone Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I have searched the forum and found various posts about power steering hoses. It appears that exact replacements are not available. I have always worked at a shop that makes hose assemblies. The problem is the fittings are not an exact replacement. However there may be a way around this. You can buy the crimp collars separately. If your fittings are ok, you can carefully cut the crimped part off of the fitting and then using a new collar, re-crimp a new hose on the original end. We have done this before on industrial equipment that has special order ends. Now, how many of you threw out your original hoses? My hoses are still serviceable and I do not want to cut them up. Does anybody have a junk set they would donate as a Ginny pig? I would prefer a set that the hoses are junk. I do not want to experiment on a good original set. If it works out you can have the first set back. If it is a total disaster, back to the drawing board. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I'll look tomorrow. Whatever you end up doing, you need to duplicate the reduced diameter part of the pressure hose to keep it from being noisy.Willie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953mack Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have searched the forum and found various posts about power steering hoses. It appears that exact replacements are not available.....Have you GOOGLED or checked out Weatherhead/Eaton? Weatherhead was an OEM supplier of hoses back then.Al MalachowskiBCA #8965"500 Miles West of Flint" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I tried Gates and Parker but not Weatherhead. I thought they were bought out by one of the other two but I will look into it. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Found some for you to play with...let me know.Willie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Found some for you to play with...let me know.WillieI sent you a P.M. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 After buying replacement hoses(single diameter only) from a vendor and finding them noisy, I had a set made at a local hose shop for about $80. Not as quiet as the originals but close and much quieter than the first replacement set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 After buying replacement hoses(single diameter only) from a vendor and finding them noisy, I had a set made at a local hose shop for about $80. Not as quiet as the originals but close and much quieter than the first replacement set.But do the fittings look the same as original? Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Falabella Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Won't pass muster at Pebble Beach but peace of mind makes up for lack of authenticity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Won't pass muster at Pebble Beach but peace of mind makes up for lack of authenticity. [ATTACH=CONFIG]229064[/ATTACH]I agree with you completely. I would not want to have a hose break on the road. But if we can make them look correct on top of it that would be a plus. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes, good or bad. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I had a local shop cut the ends off of my old pressure hose and reuse them. Worked great.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I had a local shop cut the ends off of my old pressure hose and reuse them. Worked great..Do you have any close up photos? Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smartin Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Unfortunately, no...and the car is long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Kind of curious how the hyd shop was able to reuse the hose ends since they are crimped on. What I did with some lathe work I was able to make new ferrules and silver braze them to the original pipe ends. I bought new hose from McMaster-Carr and had the ferrules crimped at my local tractor dealer. No charge. There's a number of ways to skin this cat...................Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Kind of curious how the hyd shop was able to reuse the hose ends since they are crimped on. What I did with some lathe work I was able to make new ferrules and silver braze them to the original pipe ends. I bought new hose from McMaster-Carr and had the ferrules crimped at my local tractor dealer. No charge. There's a number of ways to skin this cat...................BobI just got the set that Willie sent me to experiment with. I will keep everyone updated on what's going on. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 After many phone calls I have yet found anyone that could sell me a small piece of the larger pressure hose. (Only 25’) Yesterday I started scrounging again at the Bobcat shop. I found a shelf with some scraps of hose (Mistakes most likely) and at the bottom of the pile I pulled out a coil of POWER STEERING HOSE! We had it all the time! Anyway I had ordered a small piece of the smaller ¼” hose. Now when I can find the time I will cut down the old ends so the new collar will fit and we will try a crimp. The crimp will look different but the hose and fitting should look correct. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 53 Roady Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Very interesting. I think I,m going to ask my hydraulic shop to remake one of mine on the 53. One is brass ended perhaps original and the other is probably an old replacement. I just spent a spell looking for a fuel hose. I see a real opportunity for a small shop to reproduce accurate hoses like Inline Tube does hard lines. If you are already doing this run an ad.Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 We are real busy with all the snow so I haven't had a chance to talk to the boss about trimming down the old fittings to accept the new collar. Maybe this week yet. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 The crimping tool you will use is the same as the tool for crimping A/C lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 The crimping tool you will use is the same as the tool for crimping A/C lines?I found an old Parker power steering hose crimp die set at Bobcat today. The style is not the same as the original crimp, but looks better than the modern crimp. We did a practice crimp today. Let me know what you guys think. I will try and do a standard crimp tomorrow. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 The crimp you made looks like what I have seen. Looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Mudhttp://www.autoairandaxle.com/?gclid=CN_0xoizurwCFZRr7AodMhAAIg#!custom-oil-fuel-power-steer/c22zeI have never used this business, but there may be a similar one near you to give more choices on crimps.Willie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airy Cat Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I like that correct battery on your '55! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I like that correct battery on your '55!I hope his are better than the two I had like that. They were junk. I put NAPA 27F and have not regretted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Mudhttp://www.autoairandaxle.com/?gclid=CN_0xoizurwCFZRr7AodMhAAIg#!custom-oil-fuel-power-steer/c22zeI have never used this business, but there may be a similar one near you to give more choices on crimps.WillieI will give them a call and send them some photos and see if they have anything closer. Thanks, Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackofalltrades70 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Ttt for my friend JohnSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thanks Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted April 14, 2014 Author Share Posted April 14, 2014 Mud, I have a '53 that I need hoses for. I have an old original set of hoses. I am currently investigating if I should send these to a friend in San Antonio. He could take them in to this business and see what they can do. I will let you all know what happens.....BillI am just about ready to put the crimp on this set. I came down with a nasty Intestinal flu bug and was out of action this last week. I am hoping to get them done soon. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 I finally cornered my friend at CSR Bobcat and had him help me crimp the hoses. We were able to get the return line done and the two outer ends of the pressure line. When we went to crimp the reducer crimps I did not allow enough room on the collars. I had to cut them back some to get a quality crimp. The plan is to crimp them tomorrow and then I will be able to pressure test them. Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hoses are done and passed the pressure test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Nice Work Mudbone ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buick5563 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Now start reproducing them, Mud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudbone Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Now start reproducing them, Mud!NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Now start reproducing them, Mud!It's what I was hoping !!NOT!I can't say I blame you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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