Guest rjbudz Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hi,I hope someone can help. I've been trying to identify this car for some time. Can anyone help?Much appreciated.rj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfudd Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 There's not a lot to go by. It's clearly an upscale car. Just from the upward swoop of the molding at the top of the door, I'd start the guessing at 1927-29 LaSalle.Gil Fitzhugh, Morristown, NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 (edited) It looks very similar to 1927 or 1928 LaSalle except that the golf bag door handle is not there. Suggests it might be Fisher-bodied? I don't think it is Buick though because it is obviously has quite a long wheelbase and the biggest Buick roadster in 1929 was the series 121 on a 121" wb. Edited December 10, 2012 by nzcarnerd (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 No idea on the car, but Grandma was a doll!! Hubba Hubba 23 Skidoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 1927 LaSalle may be correct....double belt molding and simple running board trim....same golf bag door.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Wasn't she though? She lived to 98 and never lost that twinkle in her eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It appears in may be a La Salle Roadster but the wheel base on the photo appears longer than the 1927 or 1928. I can't find a photo of passenger side showing the golf bag door. The four door models have the back of the rear door over the fender, so I'm guessing two door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rust is Gold Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Certainly looks like a '27 La Salle to me. The trim is right. A picture to compare with: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Certainly looks like a '27 La Salle to me. The trim is right. A picture to compare with:[ATTACH=CONFIG]166909[/ATTACH]Mmmm....the post holding the roof is located in a different place....lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) I'm throwing in the idea that the car may possibly be right-hand-drive. It's much too large to be a LaSalle. Edited December 11, 2012 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Rust, it's darn close. The golf bag door is significantly larger and the door much shorter on your photo. I get the feeling that 'her' car is longer overall.I don't know if this helps but she was only a little over 5 foot tall. With heels I'm guessing 5'3 to 5'5.The right hand drive is an interesting idea. I don't think the images is mirrored because buttons opening of her blouse is as a women's blouse would normally be.But I seem to remember the photo was taken in front of her house in Iowa. Edited December 11, 2012 by rjbudz (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 A couple more clues. She was born in 1903. From a Google search, the clothes indicate late 1920s. The family had money so both he car and clothes were probably current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Gentlemen, what is that on the right edge of the photo, about a third of the way down the photo? Is there a chance that it's a steering wheel? If that were true, then this would certainly be a case of the negative being reversed before making the print rather than a photo of a right hand drive car. It's 1929ish, after all. The flaw in this proposition is who, if anyone, made a car with a left side golf club door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) I say 1928 LaSalle roadster. It's not a Cadillac because Cadillac had the two rectangular shaped pieces on the frame covers. LaSalle was plain. West, the poster said the woman was only 5' tall, that's why the car looks so big next to her. Edited December 11, 2012 by K8096 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) I was not implying that the photo was flopped. I was just throwing in the idea that the car might be right-hand-drive.I'm almost certain it is not a LaSalle. 1. The gradual upward turn of the belt molding on the car in Mr. Budz old photo is in contrast to the abrupt upward turn of the LaSalle belt molding. 2. The area between the belt moldings on the old photo has a definite convex curvature to it, while the space between the LaSalle's molding is flat, if not slightly convex. 3. There is no handle on the golf bag door, which a LaSalle should have. 4. It appears that the amount of space between the golf bag door and the car door is much greater in the car in the old photo than the amount of space a LaSalle would have.1928-1929 Studebaker President has the more gradual belt-molding upward swing (with convex space in between), the top mounting post above the belt molding, does not have a golf-bag door handle, and the space between the golf bag door and the car door is much greater than on the LaSalle. Edited December 11, 2012 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 West, I am saying that maybe the photo was flopped. As I said, it's 1929 in Iowa - there aren't any right hand drive cars to be found. The only thing I can think of that's wrong in my suggestion is did any car of this size and age have a left hand golf door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 There were many foreign cars that were right-hand-drive. Perhaps not many of them in Iowa, though. That said, I feel pretty confident about the idea that it is a 1928-1929 Studebaker President, and that the idea of it being rhd is an optical illusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I feel pretty confident about the idea that it is a 1928-1929 Studebaker President...West, if you click on and expand the photo of "Grandma" you can see a bit of either the door handle or it's escutcheon below her hand. It's pointed (downward), and definitely different from the handle on the Studebaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 West, if you click on and expand the photo of "Grandma" you can see a bit of either the door handle or it's escutcheon below her hand. It's pointed (downward), and definitely different from the handle on the Studebaker.I think what you're seeing is her large cuff hanging down, or at least part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave@Moon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I think what you're seeing is her large cuff hanging down, or at least part of it.Having looked at it now on a computer with a better 1080dpi monitor, I think you're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Looking at Mr. Peterson's photos, the golf door just isn't right. It's placement is different. Also his has a lock on the rear. I think what were seeing as a possible door handle is her sleeve, based on the size of her other one. The original photo scan is 1724 x 2922. I can try to upload it if anyone thinks it will help. I'm not sure the idea of a mirrored image pans out. I looked at photos of blouses from the 1930s. They button the same way (right side over left, buttons on the left side) which is consistent with grandmas and women's blouses of today. I've looked at a photo of her when she was about 96 and though her teeth have changed it appears (but I'm not absolutely certain) her teeth are the same. (I won't post it, don't want to break 58Mustang's heart). The primary indicator of mirroring (steering wheel being on the right side) can be explained thus: the photo itself appears to be shot with a high focal length. Cameras of the era commonly used them compared to the standard 35mm we're used to seeing today. This "flattens" the distances to make them appear more on the same plane. Did I explain that clearly?The car body appears to be consistent with many of the GM styles at the time (La Salle included). You guys seem to be honing in on the model. I'm still thinking roadster, it fit's her style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLynskey Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 No question it's a roadster which is the generic term for a convertible coupe without roll-up windows -- roadsters had side curtains. The question is what make. In those days everyone from Ford to Duesenberg built a roadster and it was generally the sportiest body style in the lineup.Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudsy Wudsy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 RJ, your thoughts on the nature of the photo make sense to me. I never was contending that it was a "flopped" photo, only that it should be considered. In the larger scheme of things, it seemed to me to be at least as likely as a right hand drive car (American, or otherwise) in Iowa in 1929. I don't think that it's likely, but I suppose it's possible that what appears to be a steering wheel in the photo could just be some other item resting upright in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjbudz Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yes DL, I agree and understand that, roadsters abound. Wudsly, I'm pretty sure it is the steering wheel but I doubt the right hand drive, but not an issue as there are many explanations. When this dust clears, I still don't know what car this is, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Foggy norm Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 What strikes me is the extremely square end of the running board...with trim, connecting to the fender. It also appears that the car may be tilted, is that the other side of the folded roof I'm seeing, so more of the steering wheel would show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I would tend to favour Studebaker because the LaSalle has the top pivot point well below the top edge of the body and the Studebaker has a greater gap between the passenger door and the golf bag door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I was not implying that the photo was flopped. I was just throwing in the idea that the car might be right-hand-drive.I'm almost certain it is not a LaSalle. 1. The gradual upward turn of the belt molding on the car in Mr. Budz old photo is in contrast to the abrupt upward turn of the LaSalle belt molding. 2. The area between the belt moldings on the old photo has a definite convex curvature to it, while the space between the LaSalle's molding is flat, if not slightly convex. 3. There is no handle on the golf bag door, which a LaSalle should have. 4. It appears that the amount of space between the golf bag door and the car door is much greater in the car in the old photo than the amount of space a LaSalle would have.1928-1929 Studebaker President has the more gradual belt-molding upward swing (with convex space in between), the top mounting post above the belt molding, does not have a golf-bag door handle, and the space between the golf bag door and the car door is much greater than on the LaSalle.Besides the apparent lock on the golf club door, the running board apron has a light-green inset which doesn't match the original photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 You cannot identify a car by the way in which it is painted or striped. If the car in Mr. Budz' post isn't a Studebaker President, I'll eat my hat... the real old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Using what appears to be a factory photo of a President, thanks to Richard Quinn, I sized the the two cars exactly the same, height-wise. As you can see, she is the correct size for the Studebaker, and the beltline molding seems to follow exact with the factory photo. Granted, the photos were taken at slightly different angles, which is why I sized the car vertically. Edited December 12, 2012 by West Peterson (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Mellor NJ Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Maybe this is an illusion but that light green inset looks like it's depressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 That green roadster has several non-original add-ons. I suspect that the green moulding below the door is also non-original. All of the other pictures I have seen do not have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodfiddler Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 RJ – I too, want to thank you for sharing this photo of your Grandmother. It’s a great photo and Gram was a happy, photogenic subject. Her smile, her focus away from the camera and her charisma all shine thru and certainly make you overlook the car (whatever it is) in the background. Thanks again! <O:p</O:pChuck<O:p</O:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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