ROD W Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Picked up wire wheels and axlse,s for a 1925 master Buick, but not all of the wheels are the same. Some with low central hubs and others with raised hubs. Also the brake mechanism,s are different on the two axlse,s. See photo,s. These are both different to the brakes on my 1925 master. I have wooden wheels on my car, thinking of changing over to the wire wheels.Any advice.Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 In my opinion, it is not worth the trouble.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 The last photo show the axle to the left as a 1926-1928 and the right one axle is 1924-1925.(Not really sure it could even be 1927-1928 and 1924-1926) Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger_Roy Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 The last photo show the axle to the left as a 1926-1928 and the right one axle is 1924-1925.(Not really sure it could even be 1927-1928 and 1924-1926)Leif in Sweden.I think you got it '24 on the right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 If those front axles don`t looks like your Master they are Standard model as the year i wrote.All the parts on Standard models are smaller than Master models. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 (edited) The engine is Master as you know. I have the same wheel with raised hub on my 1928 Master (21"), they are known as ASH wire wheels (per parts list) but the nuts are engraved Buffalo Wire Wheels #A5, with interchangeable (riveted) car manufacturer insert. For sure you would need also rear hubs for wire wheels for your conversion. They should fit (at least on 1928 Master) on the same drive shafts. Brake drums can be modified from those for wood wheels. Do you have 4 wheels or just those 2 on pictures? Edited November 14, 2010 by pepcak (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 It looks like ASH Wire Wheels Detroit has be bought by Buffalo Wire Wheels. Is that right or ??????? Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I have no proof of it, but it seems very likely so. My 1928 part lists for Master says "ASH wire wheels" as an option, (also Tuarc disc wheels!) but the nuts says "Buffalo Wire Wheel #A5". And my wire wheels are correct ones, I had 5 of them on the car. All the nuts are the same all round, inner ones right hand thread, outer ones left hand thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 This`s how it look without Buffalo letters in it. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROD W Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Thanks Everybody,I have the locking nuts with Ash wheels Detroit on them. Some are bronze and others are aluminium . Also have four good 21" wheels and a number of 22"wheels in not so good condition, pitting on inside of rim. The rear axle I have has different brake,s to the one,s on the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 To me the rear axle and the front axle right at the picture are matching. If you say they do not match to those on your car, do you mean dimensionally? Parts for Standard Buick should be same in design / working principle but always noticeable smaller than Master. If you say they are different geometrically or functionally then they are different year.To me you have enough material to TRY swap hubs with drums only to your existing axles or even swap the whole axles. Provided it dimensionally and geometrically fits, for sure I can talk only about 28 Master and all these seems older than that. Rear hub always move with drive shaft, I do not know anybody who succeded to split them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPilkie Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Hi Rod. Bob here. Sure would like to talk to you about these buffalo pin drive wheels and hubs. 780 819 7404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Wise Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Bob I managed to collect a set of 22" Ash wire wheels for my 25 Master. I have a number of different hubs but have not got around to sorting them out to see which suit the wheel's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPilkie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Hi Rod W. Bob here in Edmonton Alberta. Love to talk to you about Buick / buffalo wheels. 780 819 7404. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPilkie Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Rod I’m looking for the rear hubs for Buick buffalo A5 wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPilkie Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Rod can you tell are the buffalo A5 for Buick masters and A4 for Buick standards. What care are you working on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Wise Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Bob, I have Ash wire wheels for my 25 Master, that take a 6.00 x 22 tyre. I don,t know if the Ash wheels are the same as Buffalo wheels, All the wire wheels in Aust seem to be Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 (edited) Wow @Leif Holmberg, never seen this one! Anybody have one in relatively nice condition for display they might part with? Edited February 26 by MrEarl (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The picture above is a no.5 ASH outer cap I think. I bought this from "hubcap collektor" in AU 10-15 years ago, but it was was not right dimention for my 1924 4 cyl. Buick. The picture here now are the ones I have on my 1924 4 cyl.Buick with 22" wheels. I think that are no.4 ASH caps, I don`t think they are the same as Buffalo wheel-caps. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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