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I think guy qualifies as taking the ultimate adventure. This past November, a guy from Scotland brought his 1914 Stutz to the US & proceeded to drive it coast to coast on the interstates. He drove it from Washington DC to Los Angeles, CA. He did 45-55 mph the whole way. I'll admit it, this guy has more balls than I do! Columbus, Ohio on Hwy 10 in Los Angeles. check out the video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_JYnhvi0mIjS3BTNE9yT1NRVXc/view?usp=sharingmd

That engine was only used for a short time in 1929/30 in the smaller Blackhawk model. Most Blackhawks had a 6 cylinder OHC engine - basically the same as the 8 cylinder Stutz minus 2 cylinders. A truly advanced engineered engine. The engine you posted was available in the Blackhawk cars only, but very few were built. It's an "off the shelf" L head Continental Eight. While a good engine, it doesn't have the overhead cam or dual ignition that the Stutz built 6 & 8 cylinder engines do, so from an engineering standpoint it's less exciting. I think there's only a couple Blackhawk cars in existence with the Continental 8. One of them is a cream colored phaeton.

I bought a set of radiator shutters thinking they were 29-33 Stutz, but they're too long. These are all exactly 25" in length. I have 17 of them total. They have a smooth surface with no ridge in them like many cars had. They were chromed originally, so I'm assuming they are off a higher end car. I've been searching photos of 1928-32 cars trying to match these up & can't. Anyone have an idea what they fit?

I would be very careful before buying any 1927-28 boattail Stutz. My guess is about 2/3 of the ones in existence are repro bodies. If the seller cannot document the history back to the 1950's then run away!

Oh, we have driven it long distances in the past. We've driven it from Northern Ohio to Rhode Island, Phily, Cincinnati, Detroit several times, Hershey a couple times, and Albany, NY. All separate trips. That was all in the 1980's & 90's. But dad's getting older, and while you say the car will keep up with modern traffic, I beg to differ. Even with the lower 3.36 rear axle ratio at 65 mph I think the engine is running a little high on rpms. Yes, it will run 60 - 65 all day long, but the car really needs an overdrive like Packard had. It used to keep up fine when the speed limit was 60 and everybody ran 65. But now with the speed limits 65 to 70, people run 70 - 80 and pass you like you're standing still. Including semi trucks. That's not fun.

The Crawford Auto-Aviation Museum in Cleveland, Ohio has all three.

I have Hagerty, but my dad has been with Condon and Skelly for 30+ years. The thing I don't like about Condon and Skelly is that they make him send in the cars odometer mileage each year. I don't think the car he has covered with them (a 1941 Cadillac) has had 500 miles put on it in a single year in over 20 years. I could understand them wanting the yearly mileage on something from the 1960's or newer since there could be a chance it is being driven as an everyday car, but for something that old I think its ridiculous. I tell my dad to switch to Hagerty (who doesn't ask for mileage), but he won't out of habit.

The other thing no one has mentioned here is the Buick. I don't ever recall a top treatment like that on a 1939 Buick. I think someone filled in the rear quarter window and painted the upper parts of the doors the lighter color to make it look more snazzy. While not authentic, it sure looks nice. Also - look at the reflection in the side of the Buick. There's another car at that location that's not a part of the listing. Something with a long wheelbase.

To me no rust means no rust through. Surface rust doesn't bother me much. Just about any original car is going to have some surface rust underneath.

I'd be happy to Kirk. I'll e mail you.

I have this copy of an original drawing of a 1931 Packard 845 Rollston victoria. The car below, the same model, is owned by a collector near me as well. Notice how in the drawing the bottom of the body drops down below the sill, while the real car does not have this feature. Which version do you have Kirk? Let's see a picture of your car.

Here are two of the cars in existence with the scoop fenders.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but were there not 4 cars originally bodied by Rollston with the scoop fenders? One was a conv couple, one a conv victoria, and I don't remember the other two.

Almost AJ, the car you posted is the club sedan version, with the lower roofline.

The car is as it is described. LeBaron did a series of semi custom formal bodies for Stutz starting in 1929 and lasting through the end in 1933. This same body could be had as a towncar or with rear quarter windows too. They also build a club sedan with lower roof line. These cars had different interior hardware from the standard Stutz bodied cars as well.

For the wiper arms contact Vintage Auto Warehouse. www.vintageautowarehouse.com The make them new. Lincoln Continentals used the same ones. There are three different lengths though, so you need to figure out what length you need. I believe the major Packard parts suppliers buy their wiper arms here & just jack up the price.

Marty is correct in his analysis about the cap being deeper than most caps. Also, make sure you have the correct pressure cap. I believe it should be 7 pounds.

If you go in person (I know that's difficult for you) they do the research for free, and just charge you for copies. That's how I got the individual build sheet for my 1937 Lincoln K. That was 15 years ago though. Maybe things changed. In any case, I would encourage you to join the Lincoln Owners Club. They are dedicated solely to Model L & K Lincolns through 1939. They have a good West Coast presence as well, including a large meet in Northern California the weekend of Pebble.

I think for around $10 per page you get an actual copy of your build sheet (front and back) instead of relying on them copying down the info for you.

Remember, Stutz came out with their all new 8 cylinder car in 1926, so anything 1925 & earlier is going to be different. I believe 1926 through 1928 used the one serial number plate in your 2nd picture with the earlier Stutz 8 design, then in 1929 til the end they used the other design in your other 2 pictures. By the way, the 1932 tag you displayed a picture of is actually from a late 1933 LeBaron bodied car.

I don't know who restored it. I think it was basically restored in that picture you posted, and then someone didn't like the color so they just repainted in the dark green later on. So it's basically a 40+ year old restoration.

I believe that is this car that Hyman currently has for sale. It's been repainted. http://hymanltd.com/vehicles/5252-1929-stutz-8m-boat-tail-speedster/

Rolls Huntington sedan 1941 Cadillac Sixty Special Chrysler LeBaron towncar

To the show field 1932 Buick 90 series Big series Buick 1934 Packard Twelve 1936 Packard Standard Eight 1931 Stutz MB Rollston victoria 1932 Lincoln KB LeBaron 1937 Lincoln K LeBaron