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I believe the gentleman posting has the Jones Special.

yes, and that's how it's staying.

Here's a 1937 conv coupe that's been at Hershey the past 2 years.

Here's photos of the LeBaron tags of my car. You're in for a surprise when you see the big K beside your Zephyr. They did have a cream color originally, so it may have been that.

I'd consider it a catalog custom, or semi custom. It has a LeBaron tag on the passenger side bottom of the cowl and there should be a body number tag on the passenger side seat frame under the cushion.

That's a great car. I have the coupe version of that which is the same body shell but with a roof on it. Just an FYI in case you didn't know, the main body tub is steel, but the doors, deck lid, golf club door, and top of the cowl are aluminum. The hood tops are aluminum as well, while the hood sides are steel. LeBaron built these bodies "in the white" and Lincoln trimmed them to order. For example, my car has a full leather interior with the leather specified to be ordered from a specific company that was in the town the buyer lived. When you get your build sheet, it will tell you where it was delivered, original color and trim, and any accessories it had. I wouldn't re restore it. Just drive it the way it is.

For all pre war Lincolns you can contact the Henry Ford Museum library in Dearborn, MI. They will have the original build sheet for your car by your serial number Kxxxx. What body style do you have? Coupe, conv coupe, or conv sedan?

That may not be butchered to the point it can't be reversed. Personally, I think it's worth about 15K.

Blunderbuss, I sent you a private message

About a month ago I found a large number of tiny white moths in the interior of a car. I immediately dumped 2 boxes of moth balls in the car. Every couple days I go back to look and each time a find a couple live ones which I kill. It's been a month now, and I'm still finding them. What do I have to do to get rid of these things once and for all? The car is in a dark locked garage with no windows and 6 other cars. None of the other cars have this problem. The car doesn't run and just sits. It seems the moths only like British carpet & broadcloth. We had moths in this car 15 years ago and moth balls killed them all. This time it doesn't seem to be working. I looked closely today, and I saw a tiny moth larvae squirming in the carpet which I promptly smushed with my finger. I'm thinking of going to Home Depot tomorrow & spraying the entire interior with some type of insect killer. Any better ideas? .

Looks like half of a waterpump.

No, I didn't get a picture of the tach drive.

Attended the Packard meet in Reading, PA yesterday and saw this totally original 1934 Packard Super Eight sporting an original tachometer. The tach was in the place the clock originally was, and the clock moved to the drivers side glove box.

Your car would look good that color AJ.

Imperial62, You don't have to rich to buy a top of the line 30's car. Try this one on for size: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lincoln-Other-K-Model-/291426293558?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43da5c5736&item=291426293558 25K buys you this 1937 Lincoln K factory bodied 5 passenger sedan. rebuilt 414 cubic inch V 12, aluminum coachwork, sidemounts, And this one didn't need too much work to be really nice again. No, it's not a convertible coupe or phaeton (which would be priced exponentially more), but it gets your foot in the door and on the same show field with other elite cars. By the way, when I was born, I came home from the hospital in an all black '64 Imperial. Nice car!

"The Lincoln and Continental Owners' Club is heavily populated with 1970's cars too." There are actually 4 Lincoln clubs. The two that are primarily pre war are the Lincoln Owners Club which is for 1920-1939 model L & K Lincolns, and the Lincoln Zephyr Owners Club which caters to Zephyrs and Continentals 1936-48. Because of these two clubs, most folks with these cars don't join the other Lincoln clubs which cater more to the newer cars.

I don't think 63 is old at all. Your friend must have health problems. My father was 76 three years ago when he drove his 1941 Cadillac on I 71 at 60 mph for two hours one way on an 85 degree day to attend the Grand National in Columbus. As far as restoring 1953 Cadillacs goes, I believe most of the convertibles, Eldorados, and many of the coupe de Villes have already been restored, or are nicely preserved originals, so that's why you don't hear about new restorations on them so much. To try to do a complete restoration on a 1953 Cadillac sedan (or just about any 1950's sedan for that matter) is an exercise in futility. The chrome bill alone will be more that what the car is worth done. Maybe to solution is for the Cadillac LaSalle Club to split in two. 1948 & earlier (last year for the flathead V8), and 1949 & newer including modified (1949 was 1st year for the OHV V8). Who do you think is going to buy your friends LaSalle? Don't you want that person to join the Cadillac LaSalle Club? Or would you rather one of those cable TV shows buy it and destroy it? You say times are changing. I consider myself a historian and a preservationist. I guess those characteristics aren't welcome in that club anymore.

danleblanc said: "The shift is moving towards what it collectible." My response is: Pre 1950 Cadillacs are not collectible anymore?

I'm 41 and an primarily interested in pre WWII cars.

The real problem with the Cadillac LaSalle Club is it's been overrun with the newer cars, which is a turn off to the people with pre war cars. My father has been a member since 1958, and I've been to many National Meets over the years. I remember going to a National Meet at Greenfield Village in the early 1980's when I was a kid and there was a whole row of V8 Cadillac touring cars from the teens. Another row of early one and four cylinder cars. Then a whole row of V 16's. That made a big impression on me as a 10 year old kid. I went to the National Meet in Columbus, OH a couple years ago. There was one one cylinder car, no 4 cylinder cars, maybe one V8 from the teens, and only 2 V 16's. Columbus, Ohio is very centrally located and is within a half day drive of Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, and Indianapolis. To get that kind of turnout of early cars at a National Meet in July is pathetic. The weather was perfect too. 1/3 of the parking lot was 1970's-1990's Cadillacs. The club accepts cars as new as 10 years old for display and judging. Older folks would rather drive a modern Cadillac with power steering & A/C than a historical one. During the meet, the section of the parking lot with the 1970's & newer cars looks like a ghost town as no one was looking at them. I'm not saying some 1970's or 80's Cadillac aren't collectible, some are and should be cherished & restored, but when 1/3 of the show field is populated with them, to me it's not a balanced representation of the 110 year history of Cadillac. Sorry if what I've said isn't politically correct, but sometimes the truth hurts.

The only add on is the landau bars. The vertical strips on the bottoms of the fenders and the slanted ones on the roof are 100% original and authentic for 1942. The car does have the incorrect drivers side mirror though. The materials used to redo the interior look wrong as well. I think 24K is a little strong for that car. I'm thinking more like 15K - 17K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-One-Eighty-One-Eighty-Limo-/252005259753?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3aacaf19e9&item=252005259753

This is the type that mounts on the running board to keep a suitcase in place on a late teens to mid 1920's car. Probably just aftermarket. May be worth $10, but no more.

Not mid to late 30's Lincoln, way too light and Lincoln had 8 lugs.

Somewhere out there, Suzanne Somers is looking for you.