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The area it's in is similar to the neighborhood where the Packard plant is located in Detroit. Don't go at night & watch yourself! I'll try to find the pictures I took and scan them & post them on here sometime. They were taken before digital cameras became commonplace.

John, I thought the was nothing left of the Peerless factory. There's a new Juvenile Justice Center there now. Unless those buildings on the south side of the railroad tracks were a part of it too. I was there when they tore it down & took some bricks. That was in the late 1990's. It was on the corner of Quincy & E 93rd. The last part of the main building standing was the 4 story brick building that housed the company offices & had it a first floor showroom. I remember I took some pictures & sent them in to the CCCA Bulletin at that time & they published them.

I'm almost positive the armored cable is supposed to be tucked under the spark plug wire tube, not how it's routed in the pictures above.

That's the wrong side of the engine. He needs the passenger side where the ignition cable runs from the firewall to the coils. The only person I know that made the clips is Dave Mitchell, but that was only for his own restorations. I haven't been able to buy them for him.

I sent you a private message.

Most of the tubes made today are cheap crap. There was a thread abut this in August. I'd live with the slow leak & leave it alone.

Hey Ed, explain to me what the Pierce model 80 was if you don't mind. Was it built between 1925-1928 as a price line PIerce? How did it compare to the big Pierce of the same era? Nice meeting you at Hershey by the way.

About 6-7 years ago I found a 1940 Cadillac front bumper sitting next to a trash can on Friday evening all by itself in the middle of the Chocolate Field. It was straight, but needed to be rechromed of course. I brought it home, cleaned it up, and have brought it to Hershey for several years now to sell. Finally this year I sold it for $30. Paid for dinner that night. I'm glad I saved it and was able to pass it on to someone who could use it.

I bypassed the electric pump with a neoprene hose & drove the car about 10 miles today and it ran great and never starved for gas. The problem is the mechanical fuel pump isn't able to pull enough gas through the electric rotary pump to run the car. I'll have to either find a different electric pump that will allow enough gas to flow through it, or install one of those bypass/check valve systems. Now that I have this figured out, it's about time to put it away for the winter.

Glad to hear you & your wife are recovering & doing better. We miss your intelligent posts on here!

Here's the type of electric pump I installed: http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/img/large/pfp/e16371_p04_ang.jpg One of the guys over on Packardinfo.com thinks the electric pump is restricting the flow of gas so that when the car is run at higher speeds it's not getting enough gas. I may try by passing the electric pump & seeing if that changes anything. ;I may drain the gas tank again into a very clean container and see what, if any, crud comes out.

Working on my 1937 Twelve. Car ran & drove great for many years. Starting around 2003 car was only started & driven a short distance once or twice a year with some fresh gas put in. Car still ran & drove great 3 years ago (key point here), but wheel cylinders started getting sticky from inactivity so I laid it up to go over through the brakes. At that time I drained the gas tank and had 13 gallons of varnish on my hands. I got the brakes put back together last October. During the down time I also installed a new electric fuel pump (normally used for priming only). The old one was one of those cylindrical ones from the 1960's with points in it. It didn't work anymore, so I replaced it with an new Airtex rotary type pump. I put fresh gas in the car, started it up & it still ran great. Since the engine hadn't run in two years I let it run for probably half an hour, also using the hand throttle on the dash to run it at higher rpm. Everything seemed fine.....until I tried to drive it on the road. After pulling out of my driveway and driving it maybe a mile up the road it started to buck like it was starving for gas. It couldn't be vapor lock, I thought. It wasn't hot out, and when I tried driving it, it wasn't even fully warmed up. It never had a vapor lock problem in the past either. I turned the electric pump on and that seemed to help. If I turned it off again it would start the same symptoms again after a short time. The car would also die on occasion when coming to a stop at a stop sign. One time I drove down the road without the electric pump and it literally ran out of gas. I pulled to the side of the road, stopped, and tuned on the electric pump and it had to run for a good 15-20 seconds before the car would start again. My thought was that the fuel pump diaphragm had weakened from sitting for 2 years with our modern alcohol laden gasoline. The pump was last rebuilt in 1999 in preparation of driving it to Warren, OH for the Centennial. So, this spring I had the fuel pump rebuilt by Antique Auto Cellar in MA. Put the rebuilt pump back on, drove the car, nothing changed or improved. Car still acted like it was starving for gas. My next thought was either the gas tank has crap in it and is clogging the pick up tube, or the carburetor is gummed up. Since it's a lot easier to throw a kit in a carb than it is to drop the gas tank, I did the carb first. My thought was maybe it's gummed up or the accelerator pump was bad. Upon taking the carb apart I found the fuel bowl part did have a bunch of loose crap in it, and the accelerator pump has largely disintegrated. The carb had not been apart since the 1960's. I thought for sure this was my problem. I took it all apart, cleaned it thoroughly, used compressed air to blow out all the passages and put it back together with new gaskets and a new accelerator pump. Got the carb back on the car today. Drove the car, same results. Still starves for gas after driving a short distance. Still runs out of gas & needs the electric pump run to get it to start again. If I keep the electric pump on while driving it, it will stay running & drive OK. So now my thought is that it is the gas tank. I think there's crap floating around in there and it's getting sucked into the pick up tube when the car is driving at a higher rpm. I'll post a picture of the electric fuel pump too. I don't think it's blocking the flow of fuel as the car will idle in the yard all day long. It's just when it's under load at a higher rpm that the symptoms emerge. But why would it run in the yard with the throttle pulled out at say, 1500 rpm, and not starve for gas then? Before I put the car away for the winter & pull the gas tank I'll ask: What do you guys think? The gas tank was last done in the early 1970's. The Bill Hirsch treatment was used at that time: the tank was sloshed with rust remover, then sloshed with a neutralizer, and then some type of sealer put in. I'm wondering if the alcohol in the gas has loosened the sealer. I posted this over at Packardinfo.com as well.

I think the chassis lubricator oil can would be 1936 or earlier as 1936 was the last year for the bijur system on a senior Packard. Great find. Garage sale or Craigslist?

If you google "1932 Nash" there a bunch of them painted horrid colors.

Go to Packardinfo.com & those guys might have it.

Is it a bustle back or a fast back (Beverly or Westchester?) Does it have the original engine in it?

Look like you're correct.

Thank you for your help.

I don't have a motor, but I do have a couple centrifugal clutches if you need one of those. From my mini bike days.

The Sixty Special and model 75 Cadillac were always Fleetwood bodied.

The Cadillac Sixty Special body from 1938 - 41 has wooden sills and wood around the rear window.

Was there a piece of the touring car body laying around there? It looks like someone got all the aluminum off the body for scrap. The cowl is even gone.

Where was that one? Well, looks like you got your extra transmission. And it still has the EE 22 carb on it.

Lets see the cars in the parking lot!

Just be happy you got a room this late. I remember one year about 10 years ago the place we always stay at was under renovation & we didn't find out until the week before Hershey. We ended up staying at 3 different motels for the week as no single place had rooms available Tuesday through Saturday night.