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Thanks. The rim is about 4 1/2" in diameter

What was this from? Or was it a generic used on a number of cars?

OK, I found a couple pictures of it. I believe John & I are talking about the same car. The one I rode in was dark maroon after all. These photos were taken in the summer of 1996. These are pictures of pictures, so forgive me for the poor quality. Digital cameras weren't available in 1996.

Hey John, back in the mid 1990's on one of my many visits to Bob Agle's farm he had a Sterns Knight 6 coupe there once. I thought it was brown in color. It wasn't his, but he was trying to get it running better for the owner who I believe was a woman. The fuel line was plugged up and it wasn't getting enough gas to the carb. We disconnected the fuel line at the vacuum tank and I blew in it while Bob held his ear to the gas cap opening to listen for the gas bubbling. We reconnected the fuel line and the car ran great. Bob then took me on an hour long drive in the car and drove it hard like he did all his cars. Who's car was that and where is it now? Maybe it's the same car you just mentioned.

That's a 1938 Packard Super Eight convertible sedan with special custom built hardtop. Car was at Hershey. I never understood Concours shows where they park the cars around a body of water and the land around the water slopes down towards it. Pretty dumb set up on the part of the show organizers if you ask me.

Hey Ed, I assume you know where this one is too. 1935 club sedan used in the 1973 movie The Sting.

Here's a link to the Pierce Arrow mentioned above. It scored 99 points at the Michigan Grand Classic this summer. I don't feel bad posting this since the car is actively being offer for sale on a public forum, so that makes it open to our criticism. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Pierce-Arrow-Series-80-Roadster-/201694960122?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2ef5f4d9fa:g:WeIAAOSwNRdX~try&item=201694960122 Now I've never seen this car in person, but from the photos on the e bay listing it's looks to be pretty nice, the biggest glaring flaw is the incorrect carburetor & air cleaner. I guess the question begs, how many points should be taken off for this? 1? 2? 3? 5? If the judges each took one point off for the carb, and nothing else, then there's your 99 point score. Per the latest CCCA Classic Car, the car happened to be the only car in its class, so even if it only scored 95 points, it still would have been awarded a first in class and gotten a senior badge. I'm not a Pierce expert, but I do think the vacuum tank should be painted black, the priming cups should be nickel plated instead of bare brass, and I'm a little confused on the plumbing of the vacuum tank to the carb - I wonder if he's just running an electric pump through the vacuum tank. The exhaust manifold looks a little rough too (deep rust pits by the flange) but if reproductions have not been made, you may be stuck there. There appears to be a gauge hanging down under the dash which I'm not sure is correct. The screws holding the taillamp rims on do not appear to be plated - they're bare brass - and - are two of the rims on upside down? The screw holding a taillamp rim on is usually on the bottom, not the top. I would also think the spare tire lock and hood latches would have been nickel plated instead of bare brass too. I know some the things I've listed are nit picking, but I see a 95 point car here, not 99. Overall it is a very nice car, and it wouldn't cost much to fix most of the things wrong on it. I certainly would love to own it (I would put blackwall tires on it and lose the Pierce script on the back though).

I assume Randy knows which Derham Tourister it is though, right? It looks like the running boards are lighter in color as well.

OK Ed, here we go. Taken at the Ursuline College Concours on the Eastside of Cleveland circa 1986. In the 1980's, a lot of people painted cars maroon/green/blue and silver. Thankfully that fad has passed.

Another thing you have to look at is how long ago it won the senior award. A lot of people restore their cars, run them through the judging ranks for a couple years, and after they get their senior badge they start driving them on tours. The restoration on the car then starts to deteriorate, especially in the engine compartment and chassis area. A 100 point car that has been driven 10,000 miles might look like a 93 point car now. There's nothing wrong with this, as that's what I plan to do with my cars when I restore them down the road.

I think it's an authentic Rollston roadster body that was originally installed an a 1929-31 chassis, most likely a Packard chassis. What I would do with this car is figure out what chassis the body was on originally and go out & buy that chassis & make the car what it was originally. It should have a tag on the passenger side seat frame with a Rollston body # on it. The son of the owner of Rollston still has all the records. You could contact him, get the build sheet per the body number, and figure out what chassis was under this body originally and make it look right again. And, authentic or not, I'd be really tempted to lower the windshield a bit to match the other two Rollston Packard roadsters with this body that exist.

Nice original 8 cylinder sedan owned by a well known local collector.

What's my prize? How about a free Gemmer steering gear rebuild?

That towncar was the one sold new to the Shah of Iran was it not? Originally painted white with a crest on the door. It's currently in the Iran auto museum. They also have a 540K Mercedes autobahn car painted green.

Photo taken in the Cleveland/Akron area in the early 70's at a CCCA regional event Color of the car should make it easy to identify if it hasn't been repainted. Identify year & model please. This is the last one for tonight.

This photo postcard advertising the subject car for sale was sent to my dad in October 1984. Perhaps Ed can tell us where this car is today.

Here's the same body on a 1932 KB chassis. Too bad the roofline isn't just a tad lower.

To be clear, the body is a stock Packard body convertible sedan body that Bohman & Schwarz made the custom hardtop for. The only thing custom on it is the top.

Any 1930's Lincoln K parts? Or are they all Zephyr and Continental parts?

Any Lincoln K parts, or is it all Zephyr & Continental stuff?

The cap looks like an 1950-53 MG TD cap. Most certainly not a Rolls cap.

Ok, so I would think the photos were taken sometime between June and September of 1952 then, before the car was put up on blocks for the winter. Makes sense. Dad turned 16 in Spring of 1952 & had his drivers license that summer. We'll stop by at Hershey to say hi. I'd be interested in seeing what addresses are on the titles.

I think the car was parked either where the newer brick addition to the building was, or where those two white houses are now. I think the houses may have been built in the late 50's a few years after the photo was taken. Don't bother with the pic, he's over in that area all the time & knows it.

Yep, that's the house. I was looking on Google maps too, but that tree thwarted me. The brick house with the awnings next to it was built later as it's not in my photo. My aunt lives right around the corner from this location.

OK. Sounds good. My aunt lives right around there too, so if your friend can't find it let me know & we can look too. BTW, it was light cream with black wheels when the photo was taken.