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Pope ANYTHING is very hard to find! I am very fortunate to have found three items over the years but they were very expensive at the time of purchase. A script would be a Holy Grail item for any collector and I have never seen an original one available. Here’s the three I have found, the ashtray reads “Pope Manufacturing Co. Bicycles-Automobiles” and is very early advertising. None are for sale…

Mystery fits pretty good as nobody else has any ideas on it! Nash emblems of the similar era falls into two categories, the crank-hole shaped logo of the early 1920’s and the shield of the 30’s which includes the crank hole design but also a mid evil battle shield motif this is missing. So it could have been an adventure from the late 1920’s that was possibly not gone forward with because of the depression, or it might also be a late 30’s design with a subdued shield that wasn’t used because of the war. being large and only black & white makes me think it was intended for a commercial vehicle but that it only my opinion. No matter what it is, I have been at this game for a very long time and this one has me completely stumped!

I should add that it measures 2-5/8” x 4-7/8” and is slightly curved up to roughly 1/8” from a flat surface. Thanks again

Here’s a very odd NOS emblem I came across recently and I am looking for any ideas as to its origins. I have already shared it with several other collectors plus inquired about it with the Nash club and nobody has ever seen anything like it. The design incorporates portions of the early and later design elements which is very unusual. It has a package car or milk truck look about it to me… If anyone has ever seen anything similar please let me know. It’s very possible that it was a prototype for something that never happened, but half the fun is the hunt! Thank you for any ideas you might have!

I’m guessing a large fire truck, ALF??

I think the screw size hole should be smaller for blind riveting into the brass hub nut for a wire wheel. That is the typical mounting for them. Either way it’s a hubcap disc as opposed to what I would refer to as an emblem. Wonder if the rest is still in the lake??

I don’t have either of those Terry, but I am pretty sure they are the footed style from W&H, is that right?

I don’t think it’s meant to be a trivet, but the earlier Whitehead & Haog paperweights seem to have similar feet, where the later Robbins Company ones do not. Great piece, and I will also note that the original W&H ones are likely marked on the edge and typically at the bottom of the design.

I was very lucky that more collectors didn’t see this one listed on eBay as the seller put it in a Railroad category as a box car item. It’s the car emblem in miniature and as perfect as you could want in a fob. Made by L F Grammes in Allentown and a very scarce radiator emblem let alone watch fob which this is the first original I’ve seen. Every now and then you get exceptionally lucky, it cost just south of 1/4 what I bid!

I have been asked why I am such a hoarder only by people who want something from my collection when I will not sell it to them… perspective is everything with the concept. Pictures are older, now most of this is in glass display cases, but I still continue to hoard them.

At $125 it was quite expensive for even an original to anyone but a major Diamond Reo collector IMO. Here is a great 20’s Oakland fob on eBay is more likely to be under half of that… https://www.ebay.com/itm/203506653532

That is what I remember, deluxe version and no solid association with White. Great stuff!

I have to admit that Bill must have missed it as a White… I also thought the second meter disc had a Boyce logo beneath the bird instead of space for a monogram suggesting it was a “close but not quite” bird to the Albatross. I have to wonder why it didn’t have the “W” beneath??? If you have any interesting trading items and want, I am sure that we can come up with a mutually satisfying horse-trade on the meter but the fob is sentimental and absolutely not available. Funny, but for the longest time I thought it was my only White piece!

I personally question whether that moto-meter face was White, I’ve always been under the impression that it was a deluxe version meter for an aftermarket clientele. I am pretty sure the exact same face was available in three colors, that blue (which I have one that came from Bill Williams along with the aftermarket identification) a red one that was sold on eBay around 12-15 years ago whereas I was outbid, and I had heard stories about a green one. What I find outstanding was the cap in the Bonhams auction which is what drove the price astronomically high IMO. I can take a better picture tomorrow, but definitely the same albatross…

I honestly think that’s a reasonable price, I’d think that emblem alone is a $700+ piece and am glad I have one in my collection!

I would love to see pictures of this someday... it sounds like a great piece!

Definitely a Pierce, but that would be an accessory mascot and not one of the Pierce ones. I am far from an expert on the make, but earlier PA cars had a wheel shaped mascot with an arrow through it and Pierce written in either block letters or script in its center as a factory accessory. There’s also a wheel version where the front outline of the car is showing in the wheel. Another one which was available was a figure of Mercury throwing an arrow, and then the Archer versions began. I will assume that the mascot on the car above was one of the higher quality aftermarket ones which would reflect the owner’s taste. It looks like a fabulous mascot on there!

Sinclair Garage on the corner of Richards Ave. and Middle St.

I found that ad and a Pullman ad in Floyd Clymer’s motor scrapbook number 6. Those are readily available on eBay if you want it..:

Looking at that ad, and the date added in the way it was leads me to think it can be found in one of Clymer’s motor scrapbooks from the 50’s... I will have to see if I can figure out which one.

Although the advertising is not as prevalent as Studebaker, EMF, and Flanders, this gasoline measure has Pullman and Everett added to the bottom. It’s from a long forgotten garage in Portsmouth New Hampshire. It’s one of the few things I have seen with Pullman on it. I know I have had it over 30 years because of the gal I was junk shopping with wasn’t even my girlfriend yet... and we’ve been married for almost 30 years!

I think having to much fun with that one might just spiral down and out of control... but it does take a lot of control not to!

Wasn’t sure but I was looking for a thread on different lights and then thought this thread would do. i shared this lighted mascot with Terry when I bought it, but thought I would show what it became...

I really don’t think you overpaid, it’s a truly great fob! I was watching it too but have too much going on to bid. I think you remember I felt that way when I sprung on the Lozier fob too, but that went away pretty quickly!

From what I recall hearing, cars with the primers also had an “oil” can under the hood that was originally intended to hold a small amount of gas to prime with. It makes more sense than carting oil around which is a maintenance easier done in your home garage. It’s a rare day you suddenly need an Oiler in the middle of a drive, but priming gasoline could be needed.